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magical thyme

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Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:41 AM Feb 2014

Mom of Sick Connecticut Teen 'Collapses' in Court After Judge Sends Kid to Foster Care [View all]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/sick-connecticut-teen-justina-pelletier-foster-care/story?id=22668251

"She is not doing very well," said Staves. "Linda saw her on Friday … and there were five DCF workers present. There is no private time and she is not allowed to take cell phone photos of her daughter. ... She had red marks on her abdomen and she was very weak. It's now the third semester of school since February 2013, and they haven't given her any education, she can't attend church. It's unbelievable."

"If she had somatoform disorder, then her condition would have improved," he said. "She's not gotten any better."

Pelletier had already broken an Essex County family court judge's gag order with ABCNews.com earlier this month, saying, "I have got to save my daughter's life."


This case is so sickening...it reads like a right-wingers anti-government worst nightmare. But it's true. And terrifying. The short version is this: Justina was diagnosed with mitochondrial disease a couple years ago, which her older sister also is being treated for, and she was in treatment with metabolic specialists at Tufts. So when the newspapers write that "her parents say that she has mitochondrial disease," that is because she was effing diagnosed by doctors who actually know her and the disease, and she has been in treatment for it. She was doing well in treatment: ice skating, hiking with her dog, etc. And then she got the flu and her regular doctor was away, so Tufts suggested she go to children's because her GI specialist had recently moved there from Tufts. (Mitochondrial Diseases impact the GI tract) She never did get to see her GI specialists, because a genius at Children's with 7 whole months of experience as a doctor decided that Mitochondrial disease isn't real and that what she really had was "somatoform disorder" iow that her symptoms were psychosomatic....and reported her parents for child abuse. The Commonwealth of Mass has accused these poor people of overmedicating their daughter...for following their doctor's treatment plan to the letter!!!!! They refused to let them take her out of Children's back to Tufts, and instead essentially kidnapped her and locked her up in a psych ward. For over a year!!!!

They now pat themselves on the back for a job well done. In the meantime, they have deliberately withheld her prescribed (and desperately needed) treatment. As a result of Children's psychiatric "treatment" she is now paralyzed below the waist and wheelchair bound. She had a stroke at age 7 (a not uncommon result of mitochondrial disease) which left her learning disabled; she has been kept out of school for a year and is now forgetting how to read and write. They have treated her parents like criminals, kept her from her friends, her family, her dog, her life, locked up in a little room laying in bed in chronic, severe pain (and refused her prescribed pain medication).

From the NIH: Mitochondrial diseases are a clinically heterogeneous group of disorders that arise as a result of dysfunction of the mitochondrial respiratory chain. They can be caused by mutations of nuclear or mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Some mitochondrial disorders only affect a single organ (e.g., the eye in Leber hereditary optic neuropathy [LHON]), but many involve multiple organ systems and often present with prominent neurologic and myopathic features. Mitochondrial disorders may present at any age. Many affected individuals display a cluster of clinical features that fall into a discrete clinical syndrome, such as the Kearns-Sayre syndrome (KSS), chronic progressive external ophthalmoplegia (CPEO), mitochondrial encephalomyopathy with lactic acidosis and stroke-like episodes (MELAS), myoclonic epilepsy with ragged-red fibers (MERRF), neurogenic weakness with ataxia and retinitis pigmentosa (NARP), or Leigh syndrome (LS). However, considerable clinical variability exists and many individuals do not fit neatly into one particular category.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK1224/

"In some individuals, the clinical picture is characteristic of a specific mitochondrial disorder (e.g., LHON, NARP, or maternally inherited LS), and the diagnosis can be confirmed by molecular genetic testing of DNA extracted from a blood sample. In many individuals, such is not the case, and a more structured approach is needed, including family history, blood and/or CSF lactate concentration, neuroimaging, cardiac evaluation, and muscle biopsy for histologic or histochemical evidence of mitochondrial disease, and molecular genetic testing for a mtDNA mutation. "

Establishing the Diagnosis of a Mitochondrial Disorder

Mitochondrial dysfunction should be considered in the differential diagnosis of any progressive multisystem disorder. The diagnosis is most challenging when only one symptom is present; the diagnosis is easier to consider when two or more seemingly unrelated symptoms are present, involving more than one organ system. The investigation can be relatively straightforward if a person has a recognizable phenotype and if it is possible to identify a known pathogenic mtDNA mutation. The difficulty arises when no mtDNA defect can be found or when the clinical abnormalities are complex and not easily matched to those of more common mitochondrial disorders."

IOW, this is a recognized group of diseases. There are a number of ways to diagnose, with specific diagnostic criteria. And, btw, treatment is essential. It can ultimately be fatal.

From the Mayo Clinic:

Mitochondrial diseases occur when structures within a cell (organelles) that produce energy for that cell malfunction. Approximately 1,000 children per year in the U.S. are born with some form of mitochondrial disease. Most often, mitochondrial disorders are inherited. However, an uncertain percentage of patients acquire symptoms due to other factors, including exposure to mitochondrial toxins and aging.

Today, researchers have identified over 40 different mitochondrial disorders with unique genetic features. The common factor among these diseases is that the mitochrondria are unable to completely burn food and oxygen in order to generate energy, which is essential for normal cell function.
http://www.mayo.edu/research/centers-programs/mitochondrial-disease-biobank/overview

Compare this with "Somatoform Disorder":


Somatoform pain disorder
Somatoform pain disorder is pain that is severe enough to disrupt a person's everyday life.

The pain is like that of a physical disorder, but no physical cause is found. The pain is thought to be due to psychological problems.

The pain that people with this disorder feel is real. It is not created or faked on purpose (malingering).

A thorough medical evaluation, including laboratory work and radiologic scans (MRI, CT, ultrasound, x-ray), is done to determine possible causes of the pain.

Somatoform pain disorder is diagnosed when these tests do not reveal a clear source of the pain.

Prescription and nonprescription pain medications often do not work very well. These medications also can have side effects, and may carry the risk for abuse.

Chronic pain syndromes of all types can often be treated with antidepressants and talk therapy.

Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), a kind of talk therapy, can help you deal with your pain. During therapy, you will learn:
•To recognize what seems to make the pain worse
•To develop ways of coping with the painful body sensations
•To keep yourself more active, even if you still have the pain

Antidepressant medications also often help with both the pain and the worry surrounding the pain
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000922.htm
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Why is this a story? LeftyMom Feb 2014 #1
why is this a story? seriously? magical thyme Feb 2014 #3
How many kids in state custody haven't you heard of? LeftyMom Feb 2014 #5
mind you that the gag order directly violates the 1st amendment, and the ACLU is getting involved magical thyme Feb 2014 #9
The doctor at Tufts is risking his career by speaking out despite the gag order. pnwmom Feb 2014 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Feb 2014 #44
I agree kcr Feb 2014 #13
This is a dispute in diagnosis between two top hospitals, with the state choosing the side pnwmom Feb 2014 #20
It is not a dispute between two hospitals kcr Feb 2014 #29
Tufts diagnosed and treated successfully for Mitochondrial Disease for 2 years. magical thyme Feb 2014 #40
I've read the Boston Globe articles kcr Feb 2014 #41
everything I've read on it says they did take her for no good reason. magical thyme Feb 2014 #43
I think you and I are interpreting things very differently kcr Feb 2014 #45
the simple fact that they totally excluded the initial diagnosing doctors from consultation tells me magical thyme Feb 2014 #47
What do they do where you work when they suspect child abuse? kcr Feb 2014 #56
suspected child abuse is one thing. but throwing out an existing diagnosis and treatment plan magical thyme Feb 2014 #59
How could they not throw it out? kcr Feb 2014 #65
Oh please. LisaL Feb 2014 #69
Talk about thin air kcr Feb 2014 #70
the parent's story is NOT the only story we are getting. Dr. Korson has been interviewed magical thyme Feb 2014 #76
Like I said kcr Feb 2014 #81
um, now you are accusing the Chief of Metabolism Service/Director of the Metabolic Disorder Clinic magical thyme Feb 2014 #71
Um, no, I didn't kcr Feb 2014 #72
If this was a case of Munchausen by proxy, the child should have improved LisaL Feb 2014 #108
Should but not always kcr Feb 2014 #111
Yours is the knee jerk reaction, responding as you do because Glen Beck is among pnwmom Feb 2014 #48
My non knee jerk knee jerk reaction happened before Glen Beck hopped on board n/t kcr Feb 2014 #53
It's a dispute between a top mitochondrial doctor at the Tufts hospital pnwmom Feb 2014 #46
No, I'm not kcr Feb 2014 #54
Yes, you are. You said this was "ginned up right wing outrage." pnwmom Feb 2014 #55
I said it was ginned up outrage because it is indeed ginned up outrage kcr Feb 2014 #57
The fact that they are wrong most of the time doesn't mean they're wrong THIS time. pnwmom Feb 2014 #60
It's not Boston Children's job to support the parents request to lift the gag order kcr Feb 2014 #63
If Boston Children's is doing the right thing, then lifting the gag order will support the hospital. pnwmom Feb 2014 #64
But that isn't up to Boston Children's kcr Feb 2014 #67
The judge issued the gag order in response to Boston Children's request for a gag order. pnwmom Feb 2014 #77
That may be, but it was still the judge who issued it. kcr Feb 2014 #83
Why should lifting the gag order help the parents if the hospital has nothing to hide? pnwmom Feb 2014 #85
It isn't about having nothing to hide kcr Feb 2014 #87
I can't believe that so-called progressives don't side with the ACLU on the 1st Amendment issue here pnwmom Feb 2014 #92
The ACLU, who haven't even decided if they're going to get involved in this case? kcr Feb 2014 #98
Where did I use the word kidnap? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #99
That is the parent's claim and those of those in the story speaking on their behalf kcr Feb 2014 #100
I completely understand how they feel that way. The doctors at Tufts are excellent doctors pnwmom Feb 2014 #101
The doctors at Tufts are excellent, but not at Boston Children's? kcr Feb 2014 #102
Both hospitals have excellent doctors, and it should be up to the parents, not the state, pnwmom Feb 2014 #104
You're right, it isn't up to the state to decide kcr Feb 2014 #105
But the only "abuse" is that the state has decided that the girl's illness is psychosomatic, pnwmom Feb 2014 #107
That's what the parents claim. kcr Feb 2014 #114
That is exactly what the state is doing. It has sided with one set of doctors over another. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #115
And the state just randomly decided to rip a child away from her parents because of this kcr Feb 2014 #126
The State decided to listen to the Harvard psychiatrists who had taken over her care, pnwmom Feb 2014 #129
but you're talking as if it's certain the child was abused... dionysus Feb 2014 #133
No, I'm not kcr Feb 2014 #134
If it turns out that the parents have abused this child Orrex Feb 2014 #73
Your question doesn't make a lot of sense. Want to try again? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #78
If you are once again shown to be wrong, will you admit it? Orrex Feb 2014 #88
Sure. Just as soon as you admit your question didn't make any sense pnwmom Feb 2014 #91
My mistake; you're advocating for Tufts Orrex Feb 2014 #103
Are you suggesting that advocating for care by the metabolic specialist at Tufts pnwmom Feb 2014 #106
I'm saying that I'd be interested to hear more than one side of the story Orrex Feb 2014 #117
Wrong. The hospital has been leaking its side of the story all along. That's why pnwmom Feb 2014 #125
We also have the judge's side. Orrex Feb 2014 #128
the child has been out of her parent's care for over a year magical thyme Feb 2014 #112
Well, since we have only the story of one interested party... Orrex Feb 2014 #116
we also have the story of Dr. Korson and the Globe was able to access medical records magical thyme Feb 2014 #122
It's interesting that the judge sees good reason to take the child from the parents Orrex Feb 2014 #127
not to me, based not only on what I've read about this case, but my personal experiences magical thyme Feb 2014 #131
Ginned up outrage? A top medical facility diagnosed her and treated her successfully for years magical thyme Feb 2014 #26
The implications are not staggering kcr Feb 2014 #75
I read about this in the MSM yesterday. You are the one all concerned about rw websites, not me. magical thyme Feb 2014 #79
You should be concerned about them kcr Feb 2014 #86
Ask the ACLU. Governmental overreach is as much a concern of liberals pnwmom Feb 2014 #17
Are you kidding? LisaL Feb 2014 #66
I would go crazy if that was happening to my family. GreenPartyVoter Feb 2014 #2
this reads like the beginning of a stephen king novel.... Adam051188 Feb 2014 #4
Agree Sgent Feb 2014 #6
yes, there is more than one doctor. but it started with one doctor. magical thyme Feb 2014 #10
There could well be an institutional mindset at work here. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #14
Anything is possible Sgent Feb 2014 #15
the ER physician at Children's started this magical thyme Feb 2014 #27
Good grief. enlightenment Feb 2014 #109
I don't know. But when I saw it I was absolutely sickened. nt magical thyme Feb 2014 #113
That is really distressing. enlightenment Feb 2014 #121
Yeah, there's something missing. The family is trying to get the gag order lifted. pnwmom Feb 2014 #19
The gag order is there Sgent Feb 2014 #22
There shouldn't be any question of IF. How can a judge not allow the girl's parents, pnwmom Feb 2014 #23
how is ordering a 15 year old to not talk about her own situation helping her? magical thyme Feb 2014 #61
I've read numerous articles throughout the day at work magical thyme Feb 2014 #7
lawyers have been on this... magical thyme Feb 2014 #11
What is missing is because of the judge's gag order on the parents and the hospitals. pnwmom Feb 2014 #21
What the fuck? Beaverhausen Feb 2014 #8
If the teenager had the disease her parents say she has gerogie2 Feb 2014 #12
You are wrong. The disease isn't "easily confirmed by looking at her cells in a microscope." pnwmom Feb 2014 #18
Oh Yes the Doctors are wrong but the parents and you are right because of the Internet gerogie2 Feb 2014 #95
The doctor at Tufts -- the expert in metabolic disorders who was treating her -- pnwmom Feb 2014 #97
There are a number of illnesses and diseases that impair movement and cause neurological symptoms magical thyme Feb 2014 #24
Right! it's a conspiracy gerogie2 Feb 2014 #93
Dr. Korson's years of exams, evaluations and successful treatment outweigh magical thyme Feb 2014 #96
also, the reason "her parents say" she has this is because she was diagnosed 3 years ago with it magical thyme Feb 2014 #25
That's false. LisaL Feb 2014 #68
I know this family gaspee Feb 2014 #16
having no children myself, I can only begin to imagine what they are suffering. magical thyme Feb 2014 #36
That's awful! My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #28
from what I've read, the courts have pretty much forced Tufts out of it magical thyme Feb 2014 #31
It just seems like My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #33
here is an interview with Dr. Mark Korsen, Justina's (real) doctor magical thyme Feb 2014 #37
I'm promoting the story where I can. My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #38
here are some more links I just found, with much more backstory from the Globe magical thyme Feb 2014 #39
i am able to read both links off your post. nt alp227 Feb 2014 #62
HIPAA can be overridden by court order in cases where medical information is required. Warpy Feb 2014 #84
the judge is probably in the thrall of Children's and their Harvard ties magical thyme Feb 2014 #89
That doctor IS strongly advocating for her, but he's being deliberately excluded from pnwmom Feb 2014 #49
OK, so where is the RW link blaming Obama for this? Did the Feds do the kidnapping? nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #30
cute, but nobody is blaming Obama or the Feds. This is about state overreach combined magical thyme Feb 2014 #32
sickening--this happens with parents of kids with ehlers-danlos syndrome zazen Feb 2014 #34
for comparison, some background on Somatoform Disorder magical thyme Feb 2014 #35
I am reminded of the long fight needed to get chronic fatigue disorder hedgehog Feb 2014 #42
When I was growing up, they still thought asthma was psychosomatic. pnwmom Feb 2014 #50
and they thought "refrigerator mothers" caused autism! hedgehog Feb 2014 #135
Oh yes -- I remember that! n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #136
Former fed prosecutor and BOD member of MSPCC calls for shut down of Bader 5 magical thyme Feb 2014 #51
Thanks, magical, for all your work on this. pnwmom Feb 2014 #52
I needed to. It is important for 1st amendment reasons, but also overreach and conflict of interest magical thyme Feb 2014 #58
Excellent post KamaAina Feb 2014 #74
Except in her case, the term might actually apply. pnwmom Feb 2014 #80
well, then I'll amend to say she is unable to walk due to ataxia and possible magical thyme Feb 2014 #90
Right. It's not ordinary paralysis. It's ataxia and profound muscle weakness as a direct pnwmom Feb 2014 #94
Dumb question: Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #110
Dr. Korson from Tufts has spoken out and did try very hard to be included magical thyme Feb 2014 #118
Instead of just the doctor speaking, Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #120
they aren't in a position to do anything legally. magical thyme Feb 2014 #124
Doesn't Children's realize they're setting themselves and the Commonwealth Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #130
they either totally believe they are in the right, or have so much power they can get away with magical thyme Feb 2014 #132
Is it just me? opiate69 Feb 2014 #119
and then there is this: Children's policy on Wards of the state magical thyme Feb 2014 #123
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