How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

[ConservativeDemocrat]

154. You actualy will *acknowledge* a fact?

I'm flabbergasted!

Maybe it was my pointing it out, but your tiny inkling of understanding that the United States had nothing to do with this at all makes me feel almost hopeful that you may be able to speak rationally on things.

Yes, indeed. Greenwald's smarmy agitprop is actually partially correct: governments can cause people harm! In fact, as people in the Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela, and Uganda can attest, it usually goes further than to scare a bunch of script-kiddie "hacktivists" away from a site they set up to coordinate their wire-fraud and other assorted computer-related felonies. Personally, I would prefer for most of them to be caught and thrown in jail for their crimes, but governments can be lenient as well. And Great Britain likely felt the need to only be proportional to the damage "Anonymous" inflicted.

No, the interesting thing to note, Marr, is what's not being done. Greenwald clearly has a chubby for harming the U.S. But of late, he's released basically nothing the NSA was responsible for. Last week, it was that the Australians had intercepted some communication between the Indonesians and a U.S. Law Firm. This week, it's the British engaged in some mostly harmless "turnabout is fair play" on the DDOSing Anonymous script kiddies. If there were some amazing anti-American bombshell beyond the known-since-2005 pin register stuff, he would have released it by now. But he hasn't. So one has to conclude that he doesn't have anything more.

Oh, I'm sure there will be ever more desperate releases. Maybe some breathless expose that Brazil's ABIN uncovered (they openly spy on bikini clad girls walking on their beaches!!11!!1!). But all the real stuff has played out. So all they have is foreign stuff which only serves to convince the haters - who can't read, and will blame the NSA and U.S.

I expect to make his millions of dollars, Greenwald will be releasing this kind of stuff for some time.

Well, all except anything that makes the FSB look bad (no matter how truly awful it is). Greenwald and Snowden are anti-American. Not anti-Russian. And they both know who Snowden's real master is now.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community