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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
37. I've given it a bunch
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 12:52 PM
Feb 2014

When Hurricane Katrina showed the paucity of assets available for response, I started looking at it seriously. Realizing that any response to a Hurricane or Tsunami would have to come from the sea, and include waterborne and airborne assets. So in other words some sort of large heavy ship with helicopters and a way to launch boats on search and rescue/supply missions.

Guess what? I found a way to do it for a hell of a lot less money.

Shadow Marine had just started up converting old Oil Supply Ships into "shadow vessels". These conversions created a goodly sized sea worthy vessel for a fraction of new construction. They already are designed with large helipads for all but the largest helicopters. Also they come with a large hanger/garage that can store several watercraft.

A company on the west coast is making aluminum landing craft similiar in basic design to the classic Higgens boats of World War II. These are inexpensive, and very versitile and able to land personnel and equipment right on just about any beach. The basic design worked well across the pacific and european war invasions. They also have optional firefighting capability.

A company in Canada makes a eight wheeled ATV that is slow, but able to float, swim, and climb over many obstacles. Several have optional stretcher racks for search and rescue operations.

The total cost of all of this including a medium sized helicopter is less than half of one ultra modern helicopter like the AW 101 which we were going to buy for the President to use as Marine One.

Imagine this for a moment. For half the cost of an ultra modern helicopter, you get airborne, seaborne, search and rescue, water making capability, resupply and communications capability.

So for the cost of 20 of those ultra modern helicopters, we could literally put one of these things with all equipment and supplies pretty much all over the place.

I remember shaking my head in frustrated blind anger when I heard that NASA had spent a million dollars to develop a way for the Astronauts to make necessicary notes in space. These ball point pens that had to write in zero gravity are now sold as space pens. They cost a million dollars to develop. The Russians who were going to space and had the same problem, the need to take notes in zero G, found a more elegant and much more inexpensive answer. They still to this day use a pencil at the cost of a few cents. I'm figuring that a million dollars worth of pencils would have never run out.

But for some reason we as a people never look at things that way. We never look at a problem and figure out all the possible answers, and then pick the one that works best for us. No, we look at a problem, if there really isn't a problem we make one up, and we come up with the most complex and expensive, answer possible.

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What about the military contractors and their quarterly earnings reports? Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #1
Ya, that would be a great concern. fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #12
Yes ...how will they ever be able to send their kids to college? L0oniX Mar 2014 #50
Pax Americana? See Pax Romana for what happens next. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #2
Great observation vlakitti Feb 2014 #19
We'll lose superpower status but remain a prosperous great power for 1000 years? WatermelonRat Feb 2014 #43
The Pax Romana lasted about 200 years. And, what's happening to us now more resembles Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #44
That was just the "golden age". The Empire itself lived on as a significant power for many years. WatermelonRat Feb 2014 #45
Yet, it bankrupted itself fighting to hold on to it. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #46
Although a bit dated, this vid can't be posted enough. CrispyQ Feb 2014 #3
that is some of the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard bossy22 Feb 2014 #5
.... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #10
It is 60%. What they do to make it look like less is include Social Security, which is a seperate grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #21
You need to get yourself the book "The Six Trillion Dollar War" truedelphi Feb 2014 #41
thank you. this can't be posted too frequently. cali Feb 2014 #4
B-b-but...the A10! Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #6
bigger country requires bigger military bossy22 Feb 2014 #7
LOL ~ eom fleabiscuit Feb 2014 #9
COMEDY GOLD! DUzy material. cali Feb 2014 #14
Question. ChazInAz Feb 2014 #15
Durring "Mars Attacks". L0oniX Mar 2014 #49
So this is why the US Army is getting reduced to pre-ww II levels. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #17
Can we cut a little bit of the military and still be safe from the neverforget Feb 2014 #26
I love a good military parody eShirl Feb 2014 #32
OMG! The good news is that Darth Cheney is offended at Obama over this same thing! freshwest Feb 2014 #8
, blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #11
MI Complex Has Morphed. colsohlibgal Feb 2014 #13
Peace is expensive. CFLDem Feb 2014 #16
Ukranian "protesters" smell M O N E Y . n/t cprise Feb 2014 #18
2 Billion/week for Afghanistan, and they got to cut 7 billion from food stamps??? Chart: grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #20
Wish I could refute the OP's conclusions, but the seeming irrefutable is not easily refuted indepat Feb 2014 #22
Jack, Secretary Hagel is playing the Obama game. saidsimplesimon Feb 2014 #23
Thank you swilton Feb 2014 #24
In search of enemies johnnyreb Feb 2014 #25
Empire RobertEarl Feb 2014 #27
K&R! "We need to dismantle this thing, a.s.a.p." Enthusiast Feb 2014 #28
War is very profitable malaise Feb 2014 #31
That simple malaise Feb 2014 #29
Here's a few of the things the MIC is currently building 0ff the top of my head: unhappycamper Feb 2014 #30
The average American citizen has never given this much thought. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #33
I heard we live in a 15 carrier world. unhappycamper Feb 2014 #34
I've given it a bunch Savannahmann Feb 2014 #37
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I saw another post here or on buzzflash that showed we have bases in 110 countries and the countries rwsanders Feb 2014 #38
Dude....THANKS!!! BrainDrain Feb 2014 #39
Heck, this is the reason the North Pole warms up and will soon threaten life on this planet. Amonester Feb 2014 #40
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Simple truth. Bonobo Mar 2014 #51
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