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jtuck004

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22. WA State is already screwing this up with their phony legislative efforts. Worthless efforts by
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 02:24 PM
Feb 2014

people who clearly have no idea what they are dealing with or what to do, apparently only pretending to listen to voters, it seems.

One might say I shouldn't be hard on them. YOU are working hard every day paying these people to do a job - and this is what you get? Are your standards really this low? Do YOU get away with such pathetic effort and expect your boss to keep giving you money?

The stores are projected to sell an 1/8 of an ounce for $70 to $90. To whom? You can get it on the street today for $25 to $40 - what would possess someone other than a working white guy to go pay that? On the other hand sales of light bulbs and dirt are "growing" fast. Now I see why the lines of buyers in CO looked like a bunch of aging hippies who were AT the concerts in the 60's. It's a novelty now, but over the long term no one else can afford the prices. Besides, EVERYONE else has their own sources.

Hey lawmakers. I know you don't see it now, but this is really going to boost the black market in the state and nearby areas, exponentially. Thank you for that. I wonder how many of your unemployed kids, looking for a job, will find their calling trimming the nice buds of the local grow meister? That will be an interesting raid...

The legislators see the sales of light bulbs and dirt, and since it would be impossible to regulate those, they have made home growing illegal, unless you hold a medical marijuana card (mmj). Hey legislators - FUCK YOU - Come and get us. I dare you. I double dog dare you, you little turds. You will BREAK YOUR STATE BUDGET trying - you know it and we know it. Because you will have to visit every house in the state, look in every closet and basement. And you will then need to do it again next month. It would cost you billions to enforce that while you can't even get enough money for schools, bridges are falling, more people are needing government assistance than have in a long time. Thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of people are growing this stuff in every nook and cranny. You may fool some people by taking a few people to jail (what does anyone want to bet that they are predominately black, or low income?) for having a couple or 10 plants, but while you are doing that anyone with an IQ over 70 will know that thousands upon thousands of people are turning their lights on for the next 12 hour cycle, and they will repeat it a half dozen times every year, and you will NEVER, EVER catch them, except by stumbling over them in your drunken stupor. Or maybe it is just to keep a small flow of non-violent prisoners coming in so someone can profit from them. You taking payoffs from someone?

Hint: Just make it legal to grow a couple of plants. People are going to anyway, and this way they are going to learn to disrespect you and the law.

Even with an mmj card, they have now lowered the number of plants one can grow to 6 from 15, ostensibly to limit competition with their state-approved stores. LOL. Enforce that, go ahead. Get warrants to break in on sick people and count their plants. You will look like the idiots you are. A few videos after that people will begin to realize that we aren't threatened by sick people, and you will start to look like monsters.

Looking forward to when you bring your little brochure by and ask for my vote, Assuming you don't have to wait to long for the coal trains and oil sludge trains bringing hazardous materials through and interrupting our traffic for jobs on the other side of the state.

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Care should be taken to keep taxes reasonable... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #1
where is this black market for tobacco? I need to find it! robinlynne Feb 2014 #8
It's in semis hauling cartons of butts from NC Warpy Feb 2014 #39
and Florida too. TeamPooka Feb 2014 #89
Tell 'em to come up here once in a while - raven mad Feb 2014 #96
Hey, you don't get the price break Warpy Feb 2014 #99
Rats. raven mad Feb 2014 #100
Nah, you might as well quit and breathe fresh air. Warpy Feb 2014 #104
I've tried. 17 times, actually. raven mad Feb 2014 #105
Some people can't quit Warpy Feb 2014 #106
And e-cigs have been reported to be worse than the real thing. raven mad Feb 2014 #107
I don't think anything is worse than sucking concentrated smoke into your lungs Warpy Feb 2014 #108
Mine have a tendency to burn out. raven mad Feb 2014 #109
Uh, I've seen Jonesing smokers clawing through the coffee grounds and orange peels at 3 AM Warpy Feb 2014 #110
I've tried patches, lozenges, gum and........... raven mad Feb 2014 #112
"Easier than dealing drugs..." progressoid Feb 2014 #43
California. Illinois. New York, to name three n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #55
Its huge off the indian res south of here belcffub Feb 2014 #59
And those are the amateurs. The Michiganders with rowboats during Prohibition. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #69
You can't be looking very hard. small D democrat Feb 2014 #60
Sorry,...no king sized Kents.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #66
Google "tobacco product smuggling" and take your pick... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #71
WA State is already screwing this up with their phony legislative efforts. Worthless efforts by jtuck004 Feb 2014 #22
So ... are the lawmakers requiring prices of $70-90 per 1/8th in the stores? brett_jv Feb 2014 #85
The stores aren't open yet, so this is just gleaned from writings about it, but it appears that jtuck004 Feb 2014 #88
104% tax and three profit margins are why prices will be double to triple in WA boblgumm Feb 2014 #90
I agree with you on the pot yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #103
It's good sense, but prohis don't have much good sense. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #113
The states that legalize it first will have the benefit of industry, as well. loudsue Feb 2014 #2
And the people (with great skills) who happen to live in illegal states... tridim Feb 2014 #7
What is interesting is the governor has recently been quoted as advising other governors Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #3
plus the pot tourism. mopinko Feb 2014 #29
Oh yes, I can imagine.. the unique "pot tourism".. Cha Feb 2014 #53
I have lived in Colorado 24 years and in all that time beveeheart Feb 2014 #65
yep. Spinal stenosis sufferer here. Timez Squarez Feb 2014 #70
Which ever state in the North East Legalizes First is going to make a killing. wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #4
There is a way to have it as a nationwide referrendum, isn't there? Jamastiene Feb 2014 #64
Nope. jeff47 Feb 2014 #72
That sucks. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #75
I would far rather see NYS legalize pot instead of allowing 6 casinos to be built upstate. hedgehog Feb 2014 #5
+1. Gambling (losing) destroys families. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #15
It doesn't do much for the neighborhoods, either! hedgehog Feb 2014 #20
In some countries the casino profits go into the general fund. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #48
Well, to be fair... pipi_k Feb 2014 #27
I think it's a matter of frequency, severity and consequences hedgehog Feb 2014 #28
The instances of people going broke from smoking pot are miniscule Doctor_J Feb 2014 #95
Like casinos, many states will be afraid to miss out on the gold rush. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #6
What, $5 per capita? N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #11
You forget the massive savings--no incarceration, prosecution, or interdiction costs. Romulox Feb 2014 #12
I was wondering when someone would state the real benefits. Not to mention A Simple Game Feb 2014 #42
You can't put a price on a society based on justice, rationality and fair play. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #56
What we need is a massive state to make it legal... Lobo27 Feb 2014 #9
illinois. mopinko Feb 2014 #30
And Wisconsin will continue its downward spiral AllyCat Feb 2014 #57
A whole $5 per capita! The economy is saved! Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #10
See above. Your missing a few things. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #13
See above. You're the one missing a few things... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #14
What an argument. Hats off to you. nt Romulox Feb 2014 #17
Nuh-uh. You! Iggo Feb 2014 #19
First, I'm not offering an "argument". Second, ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #16
Where are you getting that number from? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #18
The OP. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #36
What are you a food and beverage industry lobbyist? Earth_First Feb 2014 #47
No, a mathematician. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #54
Then you'd probably realize you need something to measure that against. jeff47 Feb 2014 #73
This right here tells me all I need to know,personally... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #91
That amount is just for a few months. A years worth of taxes Autumn Feb 2014 #98
It's actually $184 million in anticipated tax revenues for this year alone. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #25
$37 per capita. So no, not very significant. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #37
Hey, when your blowing 2/billion a week in Afghanistan, the feel you must cut 7b/year from food grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #51
What is the precise number that would be a "big deal"? LanternWaste Feb 2014 #68
$37 per capita, plus FREEDOM. nt tridim Feb 2014 #101
This needs to go further SmittynMo Feb 2014 #21
The laws here in Colorado are pretty much the same as for alcohol... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #24
Thanks for the input SmittynMo Feb 2014 #33
they use a blood test for duid fizzgig Feb 2014 #41
I agree with making progress SmittynMo Feb 2014 #49
they use blood tests for alcohol, too fizzgig Feb 2014 #77
The poster is trying to point out that we have no appropriate measuring system with THC brett_jv Feb 2014 #86
where did i say we had a good measurement? fizzgig Feb 2014 #87
All good points. SmittynMo Feb 2014 #93
Where did I say ... that you said that? brett_jv Feb 2014 #97
Once again, we were correct. calimary Feb 2014 #23
It's actually not $25 million but $184 million in pot tax revenues expected this year. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #26
Just think of the gold mine all the other states are missing out on. SmittynMo Feb 2014 #34
I think "chicken feed" is closer than "gold mine", to be honest. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #38
$184 million in tax revenues for one state in one year ain't "chicken feed." Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #44
184 million? SmittynMo Feb 2014 #52
That $25million I cited was the initial projection. Whatever, it's all good - they're throwing ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #40
Yes, it's much better than your OP suggested. Just strengthening your argument. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #45
If only other states would wise up and follow their lead. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #31
It eventually will. With the republicans in the Indiana B Calm Feb 2014 #35
I'm afraid with McCrory in as governor here Jamastiene Feb 2014 #62
I'm not so sure. jeff47 Feb 2014 #76
Plus, the rural counties like mine, that dried up because leaders here Jamastiene Feb 2014 #79
Hickenlooper is warning other states to "go slow" RainDog Feb 2014 #32
We think alike.. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #74
Yeah RainDog Feb 2014 #111
Money talks!! And I think states will listen! And hasn't it been about money all along, really? DesertDiamond Feb 2014 #46
Agreed. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #50
Colorado Rocks otohara Feb 2014 #58
How much do they save on law enforcement and prison? (NT) The Wizard Feb 2014 #61
That amount HAS to be high, I would think. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #63
Lawyers, Judges, Clerks, Cops, Prison Guards, Lab techs.. SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #67
Just decriminalize it. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #78
I think you mean legalize it, if I can get picky for a minute. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #80
they are different fizzgig Feb 2014 #81
Growing your own is very rewarding. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #82
it would have to be the husband's project fizzgig Feb 2014 #83
$25M = a lot of twinkies cvoogt Feb 2014 #84
Yay us! colorado_ufo Feb 2014 #92
It doesn't do any good if employers still test...... Hotler Feb 2014 #94
Employers are going to have to rethink their drug testing policies. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #102
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