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351. The article was not written by her-- so

Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:57 PM

Feb 2014

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blame the writer of the article

Source was mainstream, average newspaper Sydney Morning Herald. From Wiki:

T"he paper is often criticised for being left-wing. The Herald does employ journalists who have a left-leaning inclination, like feminist Adele Horin. It also employs journalists like Peter Hartcher, who is recognised as a balanced commentator. Finally, the paper also prints regular opinnion columns from conservative commentators like Paul Sheehan and Peter Reith."

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So I see that this Gail Dines you villify is a researcher who is outspoken against degradation of women in porn and a major target for the porn industry. I didn't know about her. This article informed me about her:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography

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o.k., I get it...She needs money for school so she decided to Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #1

I think there's a good conversation regarding the topic of freedom of choice to be had here. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #2

Like I said in the other thread, if this is what she wants to do Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #4

yup her choice. loli phabay Feb 2014 #6

I think this is getting so much Lonusca Feb 2014 #17

I don't get that either Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #29

And that list Lonusca Feb 2014 #140

Wasn't there a recent debt-free Duke grad who got by... Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #278

I believe there was Lonusca Feb 2014 #360

I think it would have the same response. In fact, something like that happened Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #36

Think about the numbers though Lonusca Feb 2014 #139

Almost none, you're absolutely right. Most people don't do those things Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #151

I see nothing wrong with it and I will tell you why�. yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #105

Right. But is she is so proud of this, why does she want to respect her privacy? question everything Feb 2014 #258

Considering that society is so judgmental this is a survival tactic. alp227 Feb 2014 #287

doing porn on digital media ensures not keeping their "sides" under wraps, I think. KittyWampus Feb 2014 #329

Saftey. There's a host of crazy people who would happily hunt down jeff47 Feb 2014 #377

Why do you think that is having it "both ways"? cui bono Feb 2014 #396

What's interesting is that no one questions how the rightwing frat boys who outed and harrass her... villager Feb 2014 #3

Good point. Mosby Feb 2014 #7

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I looked yesterday when a version of this story was posted here RBStevens Feb 2014 #16

Thank you get the red out Feb 2014 #227

People love to find ways to ruin other people's lives. alp227 Feb 2014 #291

Puritanism get the red out Feb 2014 #293

Thankfully, we are a much more enlightened group here. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #321

interesting, I've never heard it phrased like this before- snooper2 Feb 2014 #5

Wait, isn't porn The2ndWheel Feb 2014 #9

It's the invisible hand that lubricates the marketplace jberryhill Feb 2014 #28

My pre-dinner martini went through my nose. Damn you! nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #86

That was magical! nt MrScorpio Feb 2014 #204

There are no more DUzy's, anymore Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #347

I agree with her that patriarchy fears female sexuality rocktivity Feb 2014 #11

This is very true, but it seems like so many don't understand that. Squinch Feb 2014 #68

Actually, monogamy and prostitution are seen as the ultimate forms RainDog Feb 2014 #110

It seems that she doesn't agree that it's the ultimate form or patriarchy mythology Feb 2014 #137

There's no singular "porn" anymore, at least in the classic sense Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #138

It's a basic misunderstanding of the idea of patriarchy RainDog Feb 2014 #145

This is a very interesting perspective. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #249

It's basic to (marxist) feminism RainDog Feb 2014 #276

your definition of marriage is very euro-centric. I speak as someone who studied KittyWampus Feb 2014 #332

yeah, I thought my later descriptions could be seen that way RainDog Feb 2014 #339

I see porn as an inherent form of patriarchy rocktivity Feb 2014 #147

Absolutely. n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #286

Then how do we classify gay/lesbian porn? RandySF Feb 2014 #199

An argument might be made... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #161

$60K/yr is the real obscenity BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #8

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #32

How many people can get in to Duke... FBaggins Feb 2014 #97

My first thought as well...heaven forbid she goes to a state school BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #142

This is very well stated Lonusca Feb 2014 #146

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+100 CFLDem Feb 2014 #207

"On the contrary, doing pornography fulfills me." Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #10

LOL snooper2 Feb 2014 #12

Way out of line. What puts you in a position to judge this woman's mental health status? MadrasT Feb 2014 #14

Now that I read more aboiut her she does seem a little off, but maybe it's just because she's a kid Mosby Feb 2014 #18

Interesting. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #56

I didn't see any scars Packerowner740 Feb 2014 #75

Why do you believe these scars are the result of her being a cutter? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #201

Couple reasons Mosby Feb 2014 #290

looks more like bad road rash to me TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #300

I edited that post yesterday Mosby Feb 2014 #326

So? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #440

I do think Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #430

She considers herself �Republican, but I identify more as a libertarian�? alp227 Feb 2014 #447

Seriously.. props when they're due. opiate69 Feb 2014 #23

+1 one_voice Feb 2014 #84

Sorry, but numerous studies show most sex workers were sexually abused as kids.. whathehell Feb 2014 #122

You can't make a judgement about an individual MadrasT Feb 2014 #202

Riiight...So studies are worthless because no one can always "know" the individual? whathehell Feb 2014 #277

No, the studies tell you about the overall group, not one individual. jeff47 Feb 2014 #382

Of course, but the problem is, no one here, to my knowledge, KNOWS this individual, so whathehell Feb 2014 #419

Because we don't know this individual. jeff47 Feb 2014 #421

I'm sorry, but I see no reason why one can't.. whathehell Feb 2014 #422

Based on your post Ticktock Feb 2014 #19

I see that you just joined DU. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #34

I see that that is clearly of no consequence. sibelian Feb 2014 #55

Oh really. lol nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #57

As accurate as yours above. n/t Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #64

Sibel Edmonds is a grifter Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #91

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #212

Welcome to DU ~ Ticktock In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #214

If we took this to be the healthy norm marions ghost Feb 2014 #21

I'm not sure it's fair to say she's mentally disturbed simply because she decided to Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #22

That's a strange, strange judgment to make. MineralMan Feb 2014 #24

They sure do - I live in a college town. They work in restaurants, at the library... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #33

And some work in the sex industry, too. MineralMan Feb 2014 #35

If one is a famous porn star (as this one) one is likely to be found out Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #41

What I think is that you may well not be competent to judge MineralMan Feb 2014 #42

What I think is that you have not researched the topic. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #48

Thank you. I agree with you, and I just love hearing from all these men getting huffy about whathehell Feb 2014 #70

Thanks! I think the problem is that too many U.S. men are obsessed by porn... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #99

My S.O. and I love watching porn together. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #133

One third of porn users are women. joeglow3 Feb 2014 #183

You are quite welcome. Of course, it's about male "prerogatives", and their hostility whathehell Feb 2014 #280

Seriously? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #118

Yes, seriously.. whathehell Feb 2014 #120

What does that have to do with this woman as an individual? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #124

I don't know her as an "individual" and neither do you, so maybe read the research whathehell Feb 2014 #127

So by that logic, we shall never see you hold out an individual's story as proof of anything.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #188

So by your logic, all Studies are FALSE, because one can't "know" every individual in them, LOL? whathehell Feb 2014 #269

Hmmm....maybe I should start slow for you.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #271

Hmmm...Maybe I should refer you to a remedial education class.. whathehell Feb 2014 #274

OMG...I've just been kicked out of the Whiney White Guy, um, "Men's Group". LOL whathehell Feb 2014 #285

You're citing Dr. Drew? Ask him about all those dead celebrities he rehabilitated. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #66

While Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #431

Really? Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #27

Someone that enjoys public sexual degradation is in need of psychological treatment nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #31

I have to agree this is degrading marions ghost Feb 2014 #38

I agree. It's like the Roman Coliseums. Yay! Someone is degrading herself publicly! MORE! MORE! Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #50

She doesn't appear to view it as public degradation though penultimate Feb 2014 #39

It has an effect on the brain, doing porn, prostitution, etc. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #44

So you believe that anyone who has sex in front of a camera is harming themselves? penultimate Feb 2014 #60

So we have you in one corner saying engaging porn causes "an effect on the brain" sibelian Feb 2014 #62

You have yet to provide a thought of value to this conversation, yet you question... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #159

Do you have any sources to back up the claim about the effect it has on the brain? opiate69 Feb 2014 #126

Saying otherwise would hardly fit her meme.. whathehell Feb 2014 #98

This is equivalent to saying, "the homeless like being homeless," or, "drug addicts enjoy being drug Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #156

I don't see how they are equivalent at all... penultimate Feb 2014 #181

You make some interesting points... Whiskeytide Feb 2014 #235

You're right. Exceptions prove the rule, however. Let me give you an example using cancer Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #246

*She* said she likes doing porn. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #289

Oh I'm sure she's going to say she hates it tremendously and that's why she does it nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #297

She took the time to proactively state her point of view. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #372

So your primary evidence that she hates porn is the fact that she says she doesn't. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #383

Called an exhibition fetish. Kurska Feb 2014 #135

You clearly know nothing about this, but that doesn't seem to stop you from commenting Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #154

How very 19th Century patriarchy of you LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #43

For someone who posts in the Sexual Assault Survivors groups, you certainly Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #47

What does sexual assault have to do with porn? nt LittleBlue Feb 2014 #53

Plenty. Workers in the sex industry tend to have been sexually abused. Google it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #58

But she just gave an interview in which she LittleBlue Feb 2014 #61

"Google it" LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #74

Ah, I see LittleBlue Feb 2014 #76

Pretty much LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #87

Why do you assume all survivors are anti-sex? LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #72

You surprise me. I thought survivors were anti-abuse and would not abuse themselves... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #100

...which, if true, totally blows your theory that sex workers are incompetent LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #108

No, it puts in doubt your presence as a positive force in such forums Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #157

LOL whatever LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #165

May I recommend you review your posts and where you posted them. Goodbye. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #166

You may do whatever you want LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #193

So people who were sexually abused liberalhistorian Feb 2014 #251

Children who were sexually abused, and go on to degrade themselves Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #257

Huh? Your response made absolutely no sense whatsoever. I believe you were responding to the wrong Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #233

Sadly, cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #197

You're right. I had read that abused people are too often found in abusive situations... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #230

Yes. It makes a certain kind of sense, but is tragic even so. closeupready Feb 2014 #309

so when is the last time you enjoyed some porn? snooper2 Feb 2014 #225

I don't. If I want sex, I have it with a human, not a DVD. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #229

What if someone is single and isn't into casual sex? ecstatic Feb 2014 #264

Abstinence only. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #265

Are DVDs of "somebody doing it" necessary? LOL! Just askin' ... nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #266

I don't think people do the DVD thing anymore. I could be wrong. ecstatic Feb 2014 #296

You're right. They simply get online daily to view it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #299

They can always masturbate... whathehell Feb 2014 #362

Oh... so people can masturbate as long as no porn is involved? ecstatic Feb 2014 #376

Actually, as far as what you just wrote, I agree with you. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #279

you ever get accused of having a superiority complex? snooper2 Feb 2014 #308

I hope not. lol I just get angry when I see people humiliating his/her self, and others applauding Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #311

"how is porn, sex? Porn is an abuse of women, period, end of story." alp227 Feb 2014 #314

Porn is definitely sex-for-pay, as is prostitution. As for "sex-POSITIVE" feminists.... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #327

OK, so simple question. Do you believe casual sex is moral or not? alp227 Feb 2014 #343

I believe sex is part of our joy in life, but not for pay, and not as a method of Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #353

Thanks for the history lesson..Those supposedly "sex positive" feminists were Libertarians/RWingers. whathehell Feb 2014 #366

Yes, there are mentally disturbed people everywhere. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #63

Serious face palm... one_voice Feb 2014 #82

Could you point to the phil89 Feb 2014 #101

I posted some Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #103

I'm pointing to it.. whathehell Feb 2014 #119

It is obvious this person has serious issues cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #104

Thank you.....n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #365

Here's a mentally disturbed person... OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #109

Christine O'Donnel "looks like a porn star"? whathehell Feb 2014 #128

Everyone looks like a porn star. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #129

Oh...okay...whatever.. whathehell Feb 2014 #136

...and a jury kept this 1-5? alp227 Feb 2014 #318

Slut shaming Kurska Feb 2014 #132

Oh, "slut" is SUCH a lovely word! You are quite a piece of work, aren't you? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #149

You can't be serious Kurska Feb 2014 #153

Our "conversation" has been terminated. I think I've learned sufficiently Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #155

Okay farewell Kurska Feb 2014 #160

I get it now, you are just trolling everybody here snooper2 Feb 2014 #226

It's still an ugly word, and while I champion their cause, I think the name is misguided whathehell Feb 2014 #288

"It implies that yes, some women ARE sluts" I disagree Kurska Feb 2014 #312

Fine, but I think you're wrong.. whathehell Feb 2014 #361

You obviously have no understanding liberalhistorian Feb 2014 #253

The term, "slut" should not be used, and yes, I'm familiar with it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #256

. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #141

My ID, Sarah Ibarruri? It's a lovely name. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #150

Conjuring up fictional mental illness is a bullshit, intellectually lazy argument. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #162

I'd wager (and win) that the most ardent applauders of porn stars, are habitual porn users Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #164

There is a distinct difference between saying pornography is wrong... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #167

No, I disagree completely with you, on every count. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #168

Popular pornography is an extremely destructive force. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #169

The sexually abused are overrepresented among the workers in the sex industries, from porn, to Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #170

Again, saying it's not normal or healthy is NOT the same as saying it is a sign of mental illness. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #172

Then we'll agree to disagree, but we're disagreeing because you have an opinion which Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #173

You're so factually incorrect it's making everyone in this thread dizzy. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #174

Suit yourself. You're far far more informed than scientists, psychologists, and just Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #175

Show me one peer reviewed study stating that consuming porn makes one mentally ill. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #176

As I said before, do your own research. I'm not here to serve you and teach you Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #177

I just laughed out loud. You have nothing. Support the claims you make. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #178

No, dear, not everyone, and please -- Where are all your supposed "facts" that would discredit hers? whathehell Feb 2014 #373

I don't have to discredit that which has been asserted without credit. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #379

Granted I have not been following this sub-thread closely but RBStevens Feb 2014 #386

The poster discusses porn "addiction" and the "serious issues" of porn consumers. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #387

Ah, then I will beg your pardon on that. RBStevens Feb 2014 #390

And running every day alters brain chemistry. Are daily runners now addicts too? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #394

Daily runners can indeed be a sort of addict RBStevens Feb 2014 #398

That isn't the definition of addiction. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #399

Being agitated or upset and/or having personal relationships suffer because RBStevens Feb 2014 #402

It is an indicator of many things, not just potential addiction. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #404

Ah, but the NEED to do something to FEEL well RBStevens Feb 2014 #405

You NEED a good night's sleep to FEEL well. That doesn't mean you're addicted to sleep. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #406

Since I try not to do the goal-post thing RBStevens Feb 2014 #408

Everyone needs some form of exercise to be healthy. Being totally stagnant can be life threatening. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #410

Said I didn't want to do it - RBStevens Feb 2014 #414

The poorly exercised are equivalent to the poorly slept. That was my point. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #415

I got your point. Thanks for the answer. RBStevens Feb 2014 #416

How many regular exercisers do you know? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #441

Habitually doing the same thing over and over again, even "expecting a different result" Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #446

how do you get from "overrepresented" to claiming 100% (?) of adult entertainers are mentally ill? foo_bar Feb 2014 #182

And trying to change facts, because you happen to like porn, and wish to defend it tooth and Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #237

I'm essentially the only potential ally you have on this subject. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #292

If you're an ally, good heavens, I'd hate to see what the enemy looks like... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #295

You still don't get it, do you? I agree with much of what you are saying... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #301

I think you have confused it. I said that daily obsession with porn is an addiction... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #305

You called her mentally disturbed. Do you not remember that? Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #322

You're confusing yourself again. Let me post what you said: Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #323

You called anyone who watches porn daily an addict... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #340

Yes. But you confused the two. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #341

No I did not. I said you called her mentally ill. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #345

Let's drop it immediately, because you were confused and are insisting you were not Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #355

Then I'll have the last word. Your arguments are an embarrassment to feminist sex research. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #370

Sex research? Good heavens. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #417

Tell it to all the researchers who have studied the issue.. whathehell Feb 2014 #363

I know more about the research on the subject than probably anyone else in this thread. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #368

Sure, and we'll all just take you word on that, right?..Sorry, but anyone could make that statement whathehell Feb 2014 #418

Study: Religious people more likely to think they�re porn addicts opiate69 Feb 2014 #371

Wrong issue, bro..We're not talking about USING porn, we're talking about participating in it. whathehell Feb 2014 #420

How is your time after the Senate Mr. Frist? Capt. Obvious Feb 2014 #224

"[T]his person has serious issues"... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #241

No. She has issues because the preponderance of sex workers are people with emotional and mental Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #247

Your assumptions about people you don't know... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #250

Then everything is an assumption, whenever studies are taken into account... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #263

WTF? A preponderance of Presidents are white. What color is our CURRENT President? hughee99 Feb 2014 #283

I'm curious as to why you think she's mentally disturbed ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #254

Read my posts. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #255

I've read a few ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #275

I looked for a few minutes, but as I'm busy I can't be googling all day. You can google as well. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #294

+1000, Sarah. closeupready Feb 2014 #260

Thanks! nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #262

I've been flamed here previously for making the same argument. closeupready Feb 2014 #284

More than likely you were attacked by men who view Internet porn every day... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #298

Yes, and you know what else - it sickens me to think that closeupready Feb 2014 #304

Maybe! You have a valid point. My personal opinion is that men who view porn all the time Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #306

11 replies down BBR Esq Feb 2014 #13

How is this news? BainsBane Feb 2014 #15

In the same sense that a study about holding doors open is news, I suppose. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #67

Ah, but that was high comedy BainsBane Feb 2014 #69

Who was the first to call a man opening a door for a woman... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #210

No one. BainsBane Feb 2014 #231

So you're saying it was Seabeyond who first mentioned it here... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #234

Yes because they lied and said women here complained about men's opening doors BainsBane Feb 2014 #236

It's funny if you talk about the subject... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #239

What's offensive is lying BainsBane Feb 2014 #240

Please point out the lies... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #242

I already explained them to you BainsBane Feb 2014 #243

"Search under doors"... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #248

Translation ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #114

Yeah, that is exactly what I said. BainsBane Feb 2014 #115

I haven't read the other thread ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #121

"As you suspected" BainsBane Feb 2014 #189

You're questioning my respect for this site? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #192

No, you clearly missed the point BainsBane Feb 2014 #196

Your first reply to me ever on this site was among the most hostile I've ever received ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #267

All the more reason to avoid me BainsBane Feb 2014 #319

Oh good, we've come 180 degrees then ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #331

Yeah, well, here's a student collecting cans and bottles for college money. factsarenotfair Feb 2014 #20

Good for her. bigwillq Feb 2014 #26

Also cool. n/t LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #194

Good for her. bigwillq Feb 2014 #25

A good read. Well worth the time. riqster Feb 2014 #30

If porn empowers her, good LittleBlue Feb 2014 #37

Question marions ghost Feb 2014 #40

Not to me LittleBlue Feb 2014 #45

OK so marions ghost Feb 2014 #54

Anything in sex can be viewed as degrading LittleBlue Feb 2014 #59

Do you think marions ghost Feb 2014 #65

I don't think it matters LittleBlue Feb 2014 #71

The logical conclusion of what you said... marions ghost Feb 2014 #73

As long as the other person consents LittleBlue Feb 2014 #78

Not talking about individuals and what they do marions ghost Feb 2014 #89

I don't think I've sidestepped it LittleBlue Feb 2014 #96

Actually, it is healthy to do so. Learning to keep one's anti-social impulses bottled up is El_Johns Feb 2014 #186

BDSM is antisocial? LittleBlue Feb 2014 #187

What I find interesting marions ghost Feb 2014 #209

Answering my own question, marions ghost Feb 2014 #51

Let's say there is a huge societal impact LittleBlue Feb 2014 #102

I don't claim to know... marions ghost Feb 2014 #211

BDSM is not a "new" phenomenon. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #268

To clarify marions ghost Feb 2014 #272

I'll leave armchair psychology to the others here. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #282

So OK marions ghost Feb 2014 #335

Gail Dines? opiate69 Feb 2014 #349

The article was not written by her-- so marions ghost Feb 2014 #351

I just read the whole thing. crock of shit. reads like parody. cali Feb 2014 #46

That is not a contradiction. ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #90

LOL.. whathehell Feb 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem Feb 2014 #49

... RBStevens Feb 2014 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author CFLDem Feb 2014 #85

fascinating read quinnox Feb 2014 #52

she wants her privacy respected but she's screwing on camera? dlwickham Feb 2014 #77

Exactly...Hillarious! whathehell Feb 2014 #95

The fact that she's a porn actress sufrommich Feb 2014 #112

This exactly!... one_voice Feb 2014 #123

so you're blaming her for losing her face but not those who disrespect her privacy? alp227 Feb 2014 #302

Someone who saw her in a porn movie has no obligation to keep it private. LisaL Feb 2014 #369

Using a stage name & a lot of makeup alp227 Feb 2014 #380

it's the same thing for anyone who chooses to put themselves in the public eye dlwickham Feb 2014 #411

From looking at the wiki it would seem this woman falls into the sexually liberal school of feminism Exultant Democracy Feb 2014 #79

Ah. I think that was a fine way of saying, "don't criticize my porn!!!" I need it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #106

Disgusting personal attacks aside response seems to indicate that this student doen't have agency. Exultant Democracy Feb 2014 #125

Frankly, I find it disgusting that anyone would applaud the degradation of someone Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #158

You seem to be under a tragic misconception Kurska Feb 2014 #163

Let me be the first to throw a monkey wrench in your gears riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #171

Sorry no, claiming someone is mentally ill because they like doing pornography is way over the line. Kurska Feb 2014 #179

You get a thumbs up from me My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #221

"Disgusting personal attacks"??? Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #223

It is a sad day when an informed and educated post is responded to like this. n/t Kurska Feb 2014 #131

Not exactly. Neo sex-negative feminists take issue with the exploitation, not the sex... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #184

I'd call what you just described sex-positive feminism Hippo_Tron Feb 2014 #381

It depends on who you talk to about it, really. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #384

What? What does this mean? RBStevens Feb 2014 #393

Sex negativism was originally a conservative, religious philosophy. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #397

Oohkaay. RBStevens Feb 2014 #400

It's not just me, to say the least. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #401

I did do a google search and found nothing close to what you describe RBStevens Feb 2014 #403

Not really. I'm far from a puritan but I also think women in porn is not healthy for them cui bono Feb 2014 #392

Sounds like a smart young woman exercising her choice with her body bluestateguy Feb 2014 #81

Yeah, I bet her parents were thrilled as well, LOL! whathehell Feb 2014 #93

Personally, my mother would be ashamed of me. Kurska Feb 2014 #313

Riiiiiight! whathehell Feb 2014 #359

I know porn actors whose parents are fine with their choice of careers. Kurska Feb 2014 #374

BDSM porn marions ghost Feb 2014 #219

It really seems like you have no clue what BDSM is. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #220

OK I'll bite marions ghost Feb 2014 #244

Will do Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #261

Thanks marions ghost Feb 2014 #270

No problem. Discussion is what it should be all about. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #273

Interesting read. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #83

That's fine for her but... Mike Nelson Feb 2014 #88

+1. El_Johns Feb 2014 #190

In 30 years this is how a lot of people will make it through college, if nothing is done about tuiti reformist2 Feb 2014 #94

Capitalism works for her. . B Calm Feb 2014 #107

Sly Stallone Once made a Porn Flick Wolf Frankula Feb 2014 #111

It was probably the climax of his acting career. edbermac Feb 2014 #117

Chuck Connors did gay porn while he was waiting to become Chuck Connors. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #143

I doubt it. He played pro & semi-pro baseball until 1952 and started acting in 1952, getting El_Johns Feb 2014 #195

Doubt what you like, I've seen one of them and knew the Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #423

I will. I looked up some stills on the net & I still doubt it. El_Johns Feb 2014 #424

You do know that the world existed for billions of years before the web existed, right? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #426

i should believe you instead. whatever. El_Johns Feb 2014 #427

Apparently, you missed the part where your belief is irrelevant. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #428

Good for her. Captain Stern Feb 2014 #113

Bravo! JJChambers Feb 2014 #116

Don't know about the porno, but she's excellent at promo. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #130

I will just wish her well. Xyzse Feb 2014 #134

she is hardly the first person Niceguy1 Feb 2014 #144

Message deleted by DU the Administrators scallywagy Feb 2014 #148

How sad. Texasgal Feb 2014 #152

She isn't ashamed. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #180

Heterosexual porn is comically sexist,my views sufrommich Feb 2014 #218

your post really has me thinking. Usually porn threads on DU degenerate into stupid/// KittyWampus Feb 2014 #333

Is it much different than the college football star who destroys his body penultimate Feb 2014 #185

hey, if someone wants to do porn, more power to them Skittles Feb 2014 #191

I respect her decision to make porn, but I question her expectation of privacy. RandySF Feb 2014 #198

this whole thread makes me vomit PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #200

Yeah, I'm reminded of the Breaking Bad (Canada) meme deutsey Feb 2014 #216

And she instantly gets judged for it here Prophet 451 Feb 2014 #203

Would be interesting to have her come back in 10 years and discuss the same thing. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #205

It would be marions ghost Feb 2014 #217

If she wants to make a porn - fine, but user_name Feb 2014 #206

I agree, though it's 16k in student loans, to be exact, but that's still generous zazen Feb 2014 #213

Agree marions ghost Feb 2014 #215

I don't know why you would assume it's the "easy way" My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #238

That's about the saddest thing she said marions ghost Feb 2014 #259

Why do you think paying for college is an "excuse"? Captain Stern Feb 2014 #389

Looks like I parroted the word excuse, marions ghost Feb 2014 #407

Fair Enough. Captain Stern Feb 2014 #413

"She's an adult" marions ghost Feb 2014 #433

I don't see why she would need to explain it anyway. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #208

a better question is..... whistler162 Feb 2014 #222

Who cares about anything? Why even get up in the morning? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #228

Allow me to summarize Public Reaction Savannahmann Feb 2014 #232

Nope. Same thing would've happened if a male student were doing porn - it'd be a scandal up Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #310

Shouldn't have clicked on that link at work with other people in full view of my screen. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #245

Sorry, I hadn't thought about that issue Mosby Feb 2014 #281

This woman was outed by a fraternity and is being bullied BainsBane Feb 2014 #252

First, let me say that I know people up at Duke. She is a Republican, anti-feminist, porn star. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #303

I think this serves as an example BainsBane Feb 2014 #307

I disagree with you. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #316

Do you not believe that consenting adults should be able to make their own sexual decisions? alp227 Feb 2014 #320

Perhaps what needs to happen is that people need to realize what porn and prostitution does to the Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #330

well said, as usual n/t zazen Feb 2014 #344

We haven't agreed on much... one_voice Feb 2014 #412

Utterly disgusting that people are defending mass stalking of a woman practicing her sexual agency. Kurska Feb 2014 #317

She also is a true capitalist! Republican values, lol. . B Calm Feb 2014 #324

Republican values to the HILT! And female as object, thrown in for good measure. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #328

LOL. Now you "know people at Duke" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #334

Yup. One is a family member in his freshman year; another is a student who is the child of a friend Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #336

Funny how you didn't reveal this 24 hours ago ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #338

I did in another post. You didn't read it, that's all. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #342

If true that fraternity needs to be shut down. Kurska Feb 2014 #315

What right to privacy are you talking about? LisaL Feb 2014 #350

The one where you work shouldn't be used smear you on your college campus. Kurska Feb 2014 #375

It's really hard to be "private" when one is having sex on video intended for distribution. LisaL Feb 2014 #391

So which is it? Author does it for fulfillment or for the tuition money? KittyWampus Feb 2014 #325

Porn is not empowering. bravenak Feb 2014 #337

Did she get any STDs while doing it? LisaL Feb 2014 #346

Bacterial infections every single time. BV or trichomoniasis. bravenak Feb 2014 #352

IVF should still work if her tubes are blocked. LisaL Feb 2014 #354

Very expensive. bravenak Feb 2014 #357

Thanks marions ghost Feb 2014 #348

It's horrible. bravenak Feb 2014 #356

Nice marions ghost Feb 2014 #358

I'd take a union over a pimp any day. bravenak Feb 2014 #364

I agree with that. nt. My Good Babushka Feb 2014 #429

OK marions ghost Feb 2014 #434

This is what people need to hear who think it's simply having sex in front of a camera. cui bono Feb 2014 #395

It's the hardest work I have ever seen. bravenak Feb 2014 #409

I think this person is just another victim TNLib Feb 2014 #367

But, she has said that she turned down a full tuition scholarship to Vanderbilt! Tanuki Feb 2014 #385

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #425

Because everyone is entitled to certain privacy that protects them polly7 Feb 2014 #432

Bullying of course is wrong marions ghost Feb 2014 #435

I disagree. polly7 Feb 2014 #436

I don't think you know her marions ghost Feb 2014 #437

I don't know her at all. polly7 Feb 2014 #438

Consider that in some cases marions ghost Feb 2014 #439

Thanks MIRT & jury! alp227 Feb 2014 #444

......... polly7 Feb 2014 #445

Maybe she didn't want to be a poor student LittleBlue Feb 2014 #442

Troll-b-GONE! alp227 Feb 2014 #443