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longship

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42. You are, of course, correct.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:00 PM
Feb 2014

But there are many, many red dwarfs which are not first generation.

As far as wiping themselves out, we don't know anything about alien sociology or psychology. It is likely to be quite divergent to human. That's always the problem with these speculations. One has to try not to anthropomorphize the aliens. Damned difficult not to do. As you aptly point out, we have one data point.

Nevertheless, I think it's fairly inevitable that there's life out there, and also likely intelligent life. The numbers are just too large for there not to be. (That's a very unscientific way of putting it, though.)

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It is just a matter of time nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #1
I agree. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #9
Unless faster-than-light travel is possible, we may never meet our neighbors FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #22
I think we will find it to be possible nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #23
If any of them are "M class"... 3catwoman3 Feb 2014 #61
We are up to I think 10 life candidates nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #65
Compressing and expanding space requires a mind boggling amount of energy. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #66
Nadine, Check out this post at Icarus Interstellar LongTomH Feb 2014 #68
Thanks, I am nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #69
Go in through the 'Blog' page - there are problems with the home page right now LongTomH Feb 2014 #70
If you can imagine it then it can be done. Bandit Feb 2014 #33
It's sort of funny that the universe doesn't simply disintigrate, then FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #41
I can imagine omnipotence but it is still logically impossible. These are paradoxes. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #67
surely "they" already know we are here Skittles Feb 2014 #25
I think that when we are mature enough nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #26
I don't think we need to be worrying about other planets bigdarryl Feb 2014 #2
...really? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #4
But think about all those potential resources under extra terrestrial footing!? Rex Feb 2014 #5
Page me when you figure out a way to get there in a reasonable time frame. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #7
What is your definition of a reasonable time frame? Rex Feb 2014 #8
Lets put it this way: I don't think you need to worry about Exxon strip-mining the Alpha Centauri Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #10
So you are saying we can't do anything about our potential oil being under their 3 toed feet? Rex Feb 2014 #12
Careful Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #13
Sooner or later we are going to figure out warp drive. Bet on it. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #18
I think that would be awesome, actually. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #19
The day we realize that Einstein was trying to tell us that the laws of physics were merely msanthrope Feb 2014 #20
We will have Spooky Action drives one day. Rex Feb 2014 #27
What sort of mystery machine are you envisioning? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #29
I sold them some green acid. Rex Feb 2014 #31
"Albert Hoffman, thou art avenged!" Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #32
The only people who would think that's the Onion, are people who have been paying zero attn. for the Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #3
Billions of planetary systems in the Milky Way. longship Feb 2014 #11
Oh yeah. I mean, Kepler was looking at one tiny square of sky. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #16
I think that when it's not about spaceships, people get bored easily. arcane1 Feb 2014 #28
I also think people have trouble grokking the sheer size of space Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #30
Scary thought.... Xolodno Feb 2014 #6
There are many stars much older than old Sol. longship Feb 2014 #15
Older can also be a problem. jeff47 Feb 2014 #17
You are, of course, correct. longship Feb 2014 #42
Barnard comes to mind in fact nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #21
Thats strange my first thought goes to Rimmer. Drew Richards Feb 2014 #43
You realize we are a pair of space geeks! nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #44
Lol yep so true. Drew Richards Feb 2014 #45
We think we're unique and important only because we tell ourselves we are. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #14
Amen! FiveGoodMen Feb 2014 #24
Not just our thoughts Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #36
new? SHRED Feb 2014 #34
Okay, so, serious question: why would this be the onion? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #35
I've just never known them to unveil 700+ at a time... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #37
Please understand that wasn't intended as a criticism. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #38
*shuffles off to the google play store to search for that app* opiate69 Feb 2014 #46
Yeah, it's interesting, not the coolest one I've found Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #48
Carl Sagan "100 Billion Galaxies each W/100 Billion Stars" Botany Feb 2014 #39
Eh, whaddid heeknow Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #40
Yes, according to Sagan there are more planets in the universe than grains of sand on Earth Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #47
It is a large number in the context that, until 1995 or so we knew of zero. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #49
Yes, I would agree with that Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #50
What some people seem to not be aware of, however, is that compared to just a few Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #51
I agree with that as well Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #52
Sure, we're ants on fleas on fleas on ants. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #53
You could be correct, I have heard theories about a multiverse Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #55
Yeah- logic sort of breaks down either way, but in some ways I think infinity makes more sense. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #56
Its a lot because we only looked at a very tiny number of the total exboyfil Feb 2014 #58
I don't know, my personal thought is that there are many advanced civilizations out there Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #59
One way to look at it is in the course exboyfil Feb 2014 #63
You can download the drake equaition app for your Ipad nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #64
I only realized recently that Sagan was such a Leftist Chathamization Feb 2014 #60
Trivializes the upcoming elections doesn't it? aristocles Feb 2014 #54
All at once? Sounds suspicious seattledo Feb 2014 #57
For those of us who have been following the space mission nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #62
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