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The "Obama is for Wall St" is pure bullshit and based only on guilt by association banned from Kos Dec 2011 #1
+1...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #3
He chose those associates. Union Scribe Dec 2011 #35
You ASSUME you know completely and totally EXACTLY why he chose as he did. You don't. patrice Dec 2011 #49
You reply to the wrong post? Union Scribe Dec 2011 #63
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #146
x3 This is getting mighty strange. nt tblue Dec 2011 #204
Not WHY he chose them, but THAT he chose them. Orsino Dec 2011 #149
Wait. Are people saying Obama didn't choose his advisors? tblue Dec 2011 #203
I love ya, man! nt Vanje Dec 2011 #241
Oh, I don't doubt that there were many favors owed... Orsino Dec 2011 #255
I get what you're saying. tblue Dec 2011 #256
Yeah. I'll give him this much credit... Orsino Dec 2011 #258
do you know why he chose them? frylock Dec 2011 #190
Sure he chose them - but not as a concession to Wall St banned from Kos Dec 2011 #51
They weren't just chosen for the Treasury Union Scribe Dec 2011 #66
Competence? Weren't a couple of them close to the blame for the mess we're in? GOTV Dec 2011 #103
...AND Senator Obama was one of those who promised that ... bvar22 Dec 2011 #135
Well, if you're gonna be picky! tblue Dec 2011 #208
It's BEYOND irritating when someone makes claims like tpsbmam Dec 2011 #232
Except that's not all. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #68
+1 Rex Dec 2011 #78
None of those people were responsible for the housing bubble. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #113
The people appointed to government were ideological kin to those in the private sector that caused DireStrike Dec 2011 #123
You have a point there regarding Summers. He is a free market liberal by nature. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #127
Wrong again. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #131
That had nothing to do with the housing bubble or mortgage crisis. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #136
Ummm...no. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #144
AIG repaid the "claims" as I said -- you are not careful with words (the goldman money that really banned from Kos Dec 2011 #155
Yes... FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #189
But the payment on that claim did not rescue Goldman - it rescued the largest insurer in the world banned from Kos Dec 2011 #195
You're right. The bailouts were the right thing. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #216
I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #129
Absolute nonsense. Gramm-Leach or Glass-Steagall did not regulate mortgages in the LEAST BIT. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #133
Wrong again. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #143
Wrong. We have been securitizing the vast majority of mortgages in the USA for 50 years. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #148
I really don't think you can read. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #188
one must be really ignorant to think G-L-B caused prices to skyrocket and not DEMAND. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #221
"I really don't think you can read" JLinTx Dec 2011 #231
OMG. Do you not knw the roles Summers and Rubin played in persuading Bill Clinton PA Democrat Dec 2011 #154
Wrong - Gramm-Leach had nothing to do with the housing bubble and mortgage crisis. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #169
The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act had EVERYTHING to do with the crisis. PA Democrat Dec 2011 #192
nonsense - right wing talk - new thread on this topic up (of mine) - banned from Kos Dec 2011 #198
So you start a new thread and mischaracterize what other posters have said. PA Democrat Dec 2011 #201
No - the new thread is more germane - Govt bureacrats vs Ayn Rand free markets? banned from Kos Dec 2011 #206
No. He just calls something "right wing talking points" and... FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #254
Are you kidding me? FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #253
Amen JLinTx Dec 2011 #230
Well said! ozone_man Dec 2011 #235
Fucking Salazar! Vanje Dec 2011 #243
well said jkent26943xs Dec 2011 #77
Yep. THIS is ALL just a BIG coincidence! bvar22 Dec 2011 #139
Wow! AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #147
VERY well said Wilmer Dec 2011 #150
His pro-wall street actions seem to render your argument moot. comipinko Dec 2011 #140
not bs at all. It's the freakin' truth Roland99 Dec 2011 #166
Yeah, it's bullshit vi5 Dec 2011 #180
He should be judged by his actions. He appointed conservatives like Jeff Immelt. He has prosecuted rhett o rick Dec 2011 #215
Hey, Obama stated way back when that he should be called out. Damn, there are many things that I teddy51 Dec 2011 #2
one cannot investigate a previous administration for things one is doing oneself. nt msongs Dec 2011 #5
10/4 and noted. n/t teddy51 Dec 2011 #7
all of which he never once gave the slightest hint he would do while campaigning. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #8
Yes. And now it is OWS. treestar Dec 2011 #16
OWS supports equal rights for all. No Rick Warren, no McClurkin they are not Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #89
DADT repeal - ending defense of marriage act enforcement by the Justice Dept (N/T) DWilliamsamh Dec 2011 #122
for some people, there will never be anything he could do to make up for the mcclurkin\warren thing, dionysus Dec 2011 #234
Well that's is their prerogative ... but it seems silly DWilliamsamh Dec 2011 #248
i agree. dionysus Dec 2011 #249
Once I go to print with it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #177
yeah, he didn't campaign on it so STFU paulk Dec 2011 #119
YES! Look for declarative statements! bvar22 Dec 2011 #151
From the archives, for some objective examination... BeHereNow Dec 2011 #174
Picking on Obama is, like, totally gonna bum-out the pep-rally... so like STFU already... (+/-) LooseWilly Dec 2011 #4
I could go into the psychology of it nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #6
Thanks! Interesting. Logical Dec 2011 #9
Meanwhile others look at a Rorschach Test and see a Matisse banned from Kos Dec 2011 #10
Except this is well known in political science nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #18
yeah - I see that with Alan Grayson fans a lot. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #22
WHOOSH nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #27
Is it Bernie then? Who do you merely admire? banned from Kos Dec 2011 #31
Again I could recommend a book nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #33
You posed this psychology because you wanted to imply that Obama supporters denied his banned from Kos Dec 2011 #43
No, it is a poltical science REALITY nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #46
It is reality but so is false projection. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #52
Again I was answering the OP nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #54
OK - good enough. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #61
Nadin ate your dinner Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #94
Only if you like logical fallacies - apparently you do. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #102
Alas it has nothing to do with who you like nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #145
Nice, way to keep from the obvious Rex Dec 2011 #79
In fact, here is a very recent study nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #41
Politicians understand the psychology well gyroscope Dec 2011 #21
To a few experts nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #29
And to some people it's about a very needful, but inherently flawed, thing called Knowledge. nt patrice Dec 2011 #50
I guess getting it at a poltical science level is my defect nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #55
Yes Dean wrote some good stuff about this mindset within the RW, the neo-libs are similar /nt Dragonfli Dec 2011 #222
John Dean collated a lot of academic work into that book nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #224
I love out of control military spending and the specter of indefinite detention. no complaints here think Dec 2011 #11
lol Matariki Dec 2011 #12
LMAO!!n/t zeljko67 Dec 2011 #38
That's sure the reason why I volunteered 30 hours a week for 2 months. tblue Dec 2011 #212
Many complaints about Obama are correct,just exaggerated. athenasatanjesus Dec 2011 #13
Well, I agree some are exaggerated, but even the accurate ones are 100% defended by many. n-t Logical Dec 2011 #19
many? or few with several usernames? Skittles Dec 2011 #73
All of the above, probably, and criticism is ok with me bhikkhu Dec 2011 #14
I hope you recant your positions with regard to the NDAA when found to be incorrect!N/T zeljko67 Dec 2011 #39
Is every complaint right? treestar Dec 2011 #15
Because this is a discussion forum. That is what it is here for! n-t Logical Dec 2011 #17
Then that goes both ways. treestar Dec 2011 #24
In fact,l the candidate constantly complaining about 'Sanctity' is going to create Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #96
Okay, I'll play. Tx4obama Dec 2011 #20
+ spanone Dec 2011 #23
Oh, believe me, I have seen your list! We all have. Many times! Logical Dec 2011 #25
Just remember that there are MANY different LISTS floating around on DU, they're not all the same Tx4obama Dec 2011 #37
+++++++++++ Good job. I'm thinking the same things. See below, please. patrice Dec 2011 #53
You are cute, Tx4Obama! tblue Dec 2011 #213
Why the defensiveness? CakeGrrl Dec 2011 #26
You think you already know all. Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #100
Why lie? The Doctor. Dec 2011 #106
Except for the FACT that he does not support Gay Marriage. comipinko Dec 2011 #138
Has he actively tried to roll back Gay Marriage in Iowa? emulatorloo Dec 2011 #167
He has ACTIVELY defined "marriage" . His definition does just that. comipinko Dec 2011 #171
The Republicans in Iowa are actively trying to end marriage equality emulatorloo Dec 2011 #173
Thing is, I do not believe that he holds that position, yet he continues to voice it. comipinko Dec 2011 #175
You may well be right about the political motives emulatorloo Dec 2011 #178
Hmmmmf. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #28
When election time rolls around, and it is basically that time... BootinUp Dec 2011 #30
Its been this way from day one quakerboy Dec 2011 #75
It's not limited to criticism of Obama hootinholler Dec 2011 #32
In all seriousness I will tell you where they are the same... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #34
Obama should not be swarmed...on the DU. applegrove Dec 2011 #36
Devil's advocate nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #44
I agree that constructive criticism should be allowed. But calling Obama supporters 'Obama applegrove Dec 2011 #45
How many supporters are indeed defenders nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #48
Regarding 'real life' please see link below Tx4obama Dec 2011 #57
Yeah and... you think that there is not a small time revolt and dissatisfaction? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #60
If it is a "few," then why are we going round and round emulatorloo Dec 2011 #62
Actually, again poli sci or history... I will slighty differ from you in core values nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #65
Yes, that analysis of tensions within the two parties is very accurate emulatorloo Dec 2011 #162
While not inside baseball, actually most people do not know it. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #170
Ha ha, silly season! emulatorloo Dec 2011 #193
Ok, then please what term should we use? hootinholler Dec 2011 #59
"Defenders" is so passe'. I believe you have now been deemed to be an "apologist". 11 Bravo Dec 2011 #90
Apologist is so DU2 n/t hootinholler Dec 2011 #228
Not every complaint is wrong...... FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #40
Right on, Frenchie. Thanks for mentioning 2010. That's EXACTLY what happened. I heard plenty of call patrice Dec 2011 #56
I would make a polite request quakerboy Dec 2011 #76
+1 dawg Dec 2011 #97
After thinking on this, it is a request I plan to repeat quakerboy Dec 2011 #179
I second that request Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #104
Here's one..... FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #181
Good post, FrenchieCat. If I could recommend yr post, I would. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #194
Fair enough. quakerboy Dec 2011 #197
You say...."most likely republican challengers are all 0%" FrenchieCat Dec 2011 #205
We agree on one thing quakerboy Dec 2011 #257
You are wrong that many have complained since innauguration. It started before then. styersc Dec 2011 #105
+100 Myrina Dec 2011 #112
NAILED IT! bvar22 Dec 2011 #157
Why ProSense Dec 2011 #42
Would it be too much to ask quakerboy Dec 2011 #183
Well, ProSense Dec 2011 #191
If a thread is about the list quakerboy Dec 2011 #200
You're right.A post about indefinite detention should not be met with a list of other stuff. patrice Dec 2011 #47
The problem for me is the lack of context and/or hyperbole. boxman15 Dec 2011 #58
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #64
Hmmm? ProSense Dec 2011 #67
Wow, really??? Tx4obama Dec 2011 #69
I didn't say everyone, I said some people DesMoinesDem Dec 2011 #70
I also find my p.s. amusing b/c there are NO DUers that get paid to post lists about Obama here ;) Tx4obama Dec 2011 #71
From ProSense Dec 2011 #72
This one actually has a logical origin nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #74
It seems like both sides in this little internecine spat feel like they are the only aggrieved ones. Pholus Dec 2011 #82
You are correct nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #137
It just seems suspicious that a few posters, whom I won't name, haven't ever found one scintilla of totodeinhere Dec 2011 #165
Why pay a prostitute when a person of loose morals will do you for free? Dragonfli Dec 2011 #225
What do you think? Rex Dec 2011 #80
Agreed. And I think those people are a minority at DU emulatorloo Dec 2011 #125
Hey Logical.. You know that you've set up a false dichotomy, right? Orrex Dec 2011 #81
No but "Is every praise for Obama wrong? Or some people just don't like to hear them?" pampango Dec 2011 #83
I, for one, like Obama and really like all liberal/progressive things he has done: indepat Dec 2011 #185
I posted this on another thread, this topic...my 2 cents... Scuba Dec 2011 #84
And after the last reply has been posted, you can append "I rest my case!" nt aka-chmeee Dec 2011 #85
We elected Obama quaker bill Dec 2011 #86
Those who demand 100% agreement do so for their own jollies as such a stance does Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #87
SMH Mr Dixon Dec 2011 #88
Why one or the other? Some complaints I disagree with, others I agree with. ehrnst Dec 2011 #91
So, every complaint about Obama is accurate?... SidDithers Dec 2011 #92
Is that really what you got from that post, Sid? Really? Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #111
Again?... SidDithers Dec 2011 #158
Election year. It will be difficult in some instances mmonk Dec 2011 #93
Criticisms are one thing. JNelson6563 Dec 2011 #95
Obama came in to a mess madokie Dec 2011 #98
I have the opposite impression: Is any credit given to Obama wrong? K8-EEE Dec 2011 #99
Let's parse this dmallind Dec 2011 #101
HERO WORSHIPPER! banned from Kos Dec 2011 #107
Damn you for belittling my adoration of the man-God Obama, may he reign for a thousand years! nt dmallind Dec 2011 #110
Good post! nt Bobbie Jo Dec 2011 #109
Great response. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #118
Excellent analysis. Thanks for taking the time to post it emulatorloo Dec 2011 #126
You win. great white snark Dec 2011 #168
No more and no less than... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #108
They all need "called out." dotymed Dec 2011 #114
Of course not, but there are several on DU who always blast Obama and NEVER WI_DEM Dec 2011 #115
Agree. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #117
I personally feel that hes done alot right and alot wrong.... CarrieLynne Dec 2011 #116
I agree and disagree. DWilliamsamh Dec 2011 #120
What is the effect of the relentless Obama criticisim on potentially new DU members? JoePhilly Dec 2011 #121
If that is the case it isn't a good thing. Puglover Dec 2011 #124
Could not agree more. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #141
Exactly krucial Dec 2011 #156
Simple question for you ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #176
Your premise is typically that of a partisan. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #186
The premise that Dems get trashed on DU ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #220
OFA is a good place for that. tblue Dec 2011 #211
DU is also supposed to be a good place for that .... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #223
Yes, that's why it says. tblue Dec 2011 #226
How many straw-men did you pack into that post ... let's count them. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #227
I guess if you want to be pissy for the next 5 years, that is your right. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #128
It is the reponsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #130
No Bad things must be said. krucial Dec 2011 #132
We did know the truth about Iraq. NOLALady Dec 2011 #152
I don't mind substantive criticism. redqueen Dec 2011 #134
+10000000 n.t one_voice Dec 2011 #159
What I personally do not like is when posters on a BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #142
+1,000,000 NOLALady Dec 2011 #153
You must be a big old hater. Jakes Progress Dec 2011 #160
It's amazing that binary thinkers want to force shades-of-grey thinkers on a discussion brd to STFU AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2011 #161
kind of like .. "your either with us or your with the terrorists" Jim_Shorts Dec 2011 #164
I think I am going to be sick....in any case I need a long shower.. ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #163
A while back, Sabrina1 shared some sage advice: Try to separate the action from the person. gateley Dec 2011 #172
"He represents every citizen in the country, not just liberals" FiveGoodMen Dec 2011 #187
Gee, really? He doesn't have to carry out the wishes of evil people? gateley Dec 2011 #202
You're saying that we're right but we shouldn't get our way. FiveGoodMen Dec 2011 #207
Sigh. You try to make it so cut and dried and it isn't that way at all. For example, gateley Dec 2011 #214
But the issues that Obama gets the real heat for are exactly the 'no-wiggle-room' ones FiveGoodMen Dec 2011 #237
Believe me, I agree with you on all these examples but I also acknowledge that unless gateley Dec 2011 #252
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #182
Complaining about Obama is perfectly fine. baldguy Dec 2011 #184
It's because of the over the top and inaccurate info being dispelled as truth Capn Sunshine Dec 2011 #196
You can count on the same posters.... Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #199
It frightens me. tblue Dec 2011 #210
I will have to admit PatrynXX Dec 2011 #219
Well thank you! Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #229
Dear Logical, tblue Dec 2011 #209
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #217
I would hope not PatrynXX Dec 2011 #218
no one thinks he's perfect. maybe the "defenders" (i see this talking point has spread quickly) are dionysus Dec 2011 #233
Does Obama support working people .....? lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #236
On what planet do you spend most of your time? RBInMaine Dec 2011 #240
Obama did send 33,000 new troops to Afghanistan... lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #238
This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not BITCH ABOUT OBAMA UNDERGROUND. We are here to DEFEAT the RBInMaine Dec 2011 #239
"We are here to DEFEAT the Republicans" FiveGoodMen Dec 2011 #242
Hyperbolic nonsense from the leftwing version of the TeaNut Party. RBInMaine Dec 2011 #246
Underwhelmed by our capitulating, No hope , No change, not very liberal president. Vanje Dec 2011 #244
I heartily recommend this 100%. pacalo Dec 2011 #245
No but some are wrong and some are overly simplistic Prophet 451 Dec 2011 #247
The specter of submiting Americans to extraordinary rendition in a country defined Ferret Annica Dec 2011 #250
That's why I love the ignore function Marrah_G Dec 2011 #251
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