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polly7

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85. I don't understand you.

Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:10 AM

Feb 2014

In my view, it was plainly visible on the video, the man was not moving once they had him down and were compressing his chest with all of that weight. He didn't move! And yet, it went on and on. I did see what I thought was a quick and sneaky check for a pulse, at that point the officer should have screamed out to stop, further checked for pulse and breathing and started rescue procedures - he obviously was in great distress, if not gone already. Restraint asphyxia is not an unexpected or new phenomenon, I would assume all LE personnel are trained to see it and deal with it. WHY did they not start any rescue attempt other than propping him up (to deceive his wife and her camera, imo)? That's just as horrible as was what they did to cause his death. I don't understand how you can excuse any of it?

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Watching your husband die at the hands of police (Warning: graphic video) [View all] geardaddy Feb 2014 OP

what a tragedy! Our police are totally out of control! Sunlei Feb 2014 #1

This video does not show excessive force. Taurusny22 Feb 2014 #2

You need to head back to cop lovers dot come then...There were 3 cops on that mans back compressing Drew Richards Feb 2014 #5

I so agree on the cause of death & about the *excessive* force used to cause it. pacalo Feb 2014 #60

Not sure about the laws in Oklahoma but in Oregon dilby Feb 2014 #8

It looked like the cops suffocated the guy. avebury Feb 2014 #10

A jury didn't get it. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #13

Do you have jury results? thanks uppityperson Feb 2014 #96

I disagree with your opinion Gothmog Feb 2014 #23

If that story makes it easier for you to sleep at night. Rex Feb 2014 #26

Not beaten, smothered to death seveneyes Feb 2014 #35

Defending murderers? amuse bouche Feb 2014 #37

Chief Stillings, is that you? LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #45

Message was hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Feb 2014 #47

Yeah. I'm trying to hold back. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #65

Let me explain from the point of view of someone who has taken many people down... 1awake Feb 2014 #54

Only 4 posts. It's getting harder and harder to catch you guys before you out yourselves Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #63

After they finished murdering him by having at least two murderers kneeling on his chest, Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #3

Yep, talking a mile a minute, side stepping side stepping side stepping to block the camera. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #6

and notice, qwertyq Feb 2014 #22

They must be giving these guys lessons on how to abuse people WHILE being filmed. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #29

Apart from the horrific suffocation of the poor man without letting off polly7 Feb 2014 #66

While sad JJChambers Feb 2014 #4

"Restraining" to the point of death Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #7

Like flies to honey. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #14

At least they are obvious. Rex Feb 2014 #28

Lots of badge bunnies round here qwertyq Feb 2014 #24

Then why did he die? Rex Feb 2014 #27

Good question JJChambers Feb 2014 #31

So you don't have a problem with a man dying at the hands of cops. Rex Feb 2014 #32

That's useless way to frame that question JJChambers Feb 2014 #34

Enjoy your short stay! nt Logical Feb 2014 #44

Is this what passes as a Democratic Party welcome around here? JJChambers Feb 2014 #46

Please. You have outed yourself repeatedly in your short time. morningfog Feb 2014 #57

yea..his death by suffocation by pigs is just fine frwrfpos Feb 2014 #52

If not for the police officers, the man would be alive. pacalo Feb 2014 #64

LOL, so killing someone by suffocation is ok? Classy! Logical Feb 2014 #43

Message was hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Feb 2014 #50

You might as well announce yourself as a cop advocate here on the site MrScorpio Feb 2014 #59

Nonsense JJChambers Feb 2014 #70

I have good reason to suspect that cops operate on a predatory instinct in most of these incidents MrScorpio Feb 2014 #78

Once handcuffs have been applied, is the suspect not restrained enough already? Laelth Feb 2014 #79

Judge, jury and executioners. SamKnause Feb 2014 #9

The whole world lillypaddle Feb 2014 #11

Anyone that has never had the wind knocked doesn't understand 30cal Feb 2014 #12

no shit. We have two peopel in this thread defending a murder. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #15

I don't get it 30cal Feb 2014 #17

trolls. shit stirrers. spanone Feb 2014 #38

Diaphragm spasm. JoeyT Feb 2014 #55

Horrible. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #16

Another link with more context... alittlelark Feb 2014 #18

Seems excessive to me LittleBlue Feb 2014 #19

Some posters in this thread seem to think only if kicks or punches are thrown 30cal Feb 2014 #20

This^ geardaddy Feb 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #53

Hahaha! geardaddy Feb 2014 #84

They don't really believe that, basically there are a few 'posters' Rex Feb 2014 #33

It sure seems that way 30cal Feb 2014 #36

Do we know cause of death yet? aikoaiko Feb 2014 #25

No MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #39

You can conclude this: If the pigs didn't show up he'd be alive! L0oniX Feb 2014 #49

Very true MO_Moderate Feb 2014 #82

Yea ok ...just like the military then huh ...it's just bug splat. L0oniX Feb 2014 #94

Cause of death = pigs. If they never showed up he'd be alive. L0oniX Feb 2014 #48

I don't know what is more pathetic, the fact that the cops murdered that man Rex Feb 2014 #30

Fuggin family drama bullshizz: who needs it? struggle4progress Feb 2014 #40

Wow. Even for you this is an unbelievable viewpoint. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #41

It's a sad story. The police may not have understood the situation fully when struggle4progress Feb 2014 #42

The answer is no. morningfog Feb 2014 #58

But But But he has a clever sounding handle HangOnKids Feb 2014 #61

Not at all, clearly you haven't been paying attention. Rex Feb 2014 #92

More like "struggle2bhuman". nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #68

We don't actually know yet what happened struggle4progress Feb 2014 #69

An unarmed man was killed by 5 cops. morningfog Feb 2014 #71

Could be. It's not clear at present struggle4progress Feb 2014 #73

Yeah about that...you will never get an agreement Rex Feb 2014 #75

YEP. Rex Feb 2014 #76

"Man dies in struggle with police" Rex Feb 2014 #74

My stand is: anonymous internet posters only pretend to know what happened struggle4progress Feb 2014 #80

I wonder why they tried to conceal the fact that he was dead? They knew he was, after all. Bonobo Feb 2014 #83

You mean when they 'propped his dead body' up and tried to take the camera? Rex Feb 2014 #86

I don't understand you. polly7 Feb 2014 #85

Just remember this - some people will deny what their own two eyes see. Rex Feb 2014 #87

True, but I still can't understand why. Maybe that's a good thing. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #89

It is a good thing, you accept reality when you see it. Rex Feb 2014 #90

I watch a lot of MMA. When a body goes limp, they know. You can feel it. Bonobo Feb 2014 #88

Yes. polly7 Feb 2014 #91

I don't know exactly what happened. According to accounts, police used pepper-spray; but the video struggle4progress Feb 2014 #95

these pugs suffocated this poor guy to death frwrfpos Feb 2014 #51

No proof is necessary Harmony Blue Feb 2014 #56

TO protect other officers careers and make you subservient EVEN Rex Feb 2014 #77

Yay cops. Always looking to protect us from the scourge of movie viewers with children. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #62

It is a shame they don't receive any training on how to keep their suspects alive Rex Feb 2014 #93

So that's what murder looks like. Murder and coverup in jut a few minutes. Wow. Bonobo Feb 2014 #67

Police get training, right? gollygee Feb 2014 #72

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