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FarCenter

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46. It is probably twice that for total public criminal law enforcement
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:19 AM
Feb 2014

If you add in the FBI, DEA, prison guards, bailiffs, prosecutors and the other sundry employees of federal, state and local governments involved with criminal law enforcement.

Plus, I've seen estimates that private security guards and others employed by corporations and individuals doubles the number again.

A few responses Scootaloo Feb 2014 #1
Is the impression that "government institutions... turn a blind eye"... Silent3 Feb 2014 #8
Don't ignore the hiring practices either! Beach Rat Feb 2014 #41
309 U.S. deaths by police action in 2013. 47 deaths by police action in the UK since 1922. pa28 Feb 2014 #2
Yes, but we have some of the best gun control around, and you have some of the worst. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #67
I think this hits the nail on the head... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #85
The percentage of bad cops approaches 100. All you have to do is judge it rationally. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #3
What have I tried to justify? Silent3 Feb 2014 #10
Do you really not realize that yes, this is the only thing that matters regarding this issue? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #12
What also matters is whether cops, on the whole, do more harm than good. Silent3 Feb 2014 #13
No, it isn't. FFS, have we fallen so far down the rabbit hole that even this most fundamental Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #15
So it's not important if cops do more harm than good? Silent3 Feb 2014 #17
The Contract. You get power over me so long as I benefit, too. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #27
you have nothing to support your conclusions treestar Feb 2014 #62
It must be just awful living your entire life so in fear of bogey-men that Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #71
Are you saying there is no crime? treestar Feb 2014 #74
Bogey-man? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #78
OK, let's say most cops are good. Kindly point them out to me. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2014 #4
I work with a former cop AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #5
I think that it is about the only thing most Progressives and most Republicans 30cal Feb 2014 #7
"He also said that the force is 90% Republican.' HughBeaumont Feb 2014 #81
From a cops perspective it's us versus them. 30cal Feb 2014 #6
I have, once long ago, reported an assault to the police. Silent3 Feb 2014 #11
from the massive cop hatred on DU I can see why they TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #88
The so-called "good cops" would be more convincing Heidi Feb 2014 #9
BJS maintains statistics on matters such as arrest-related deaths struggle4progress Feb 2014 #14
IOW, our police kill more Americans every year that the most successful terrorist attack in history. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #16
Something like 31000 a year die from guns here and another 33000 in traffic accidents struggle4progress Feb 2014 #19
Neither guns, motor vehicles, nor even terrorists are granted special license Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #20
It's a bundle of problems worth considering, and if you have any useful ideas, I'm sure struggle4progress Feb 2014 #21
There are literally thousands of useful plans out there. Lack of alternatives is nowhere near Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #22
BINGO! HangOnKids Feb 2014 #24
I'm a radical. Libertarian, Communist, left-wing, hippie, looney, racist, feminazi, purist, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #36
I have an idea not sure if its a good one...all complaints against police are filed by and interview Drew Richards Feb 2014 #90
I think only larger police departments have something an Internal Affairs struggle4progress Feb 2014 #91
That doesn't appear to be true. Captain Stern Feb 2014 #38
You're right, I mis-read the reply. It doesn't change the point at all. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #40
It sort of DOES change your point Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #82
Not even close... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author EX500rider Feb 2014 #80
My take, as someone who was a deputy some years back The Straight Story Feb 2014 #18
You were a cop. What a shock. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #37
And he offered some interesting information and solutions. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #58
If you look at the big picture... MrScorpio Feb 2014 #23
There will be none of that fancified Big Picture gazing around here. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #30
Great reply. defacto7 Feb 2014 #32
14,612 homicides in the United States annually hfojvt Feb 2014 #33
I've read enough news accounts on DU to understand this is a big problem pacalo Feb 2014 #39
Could it be, perhaps, that what's wrong with our cops is... Silent3 Feb 2014 #56
I never said that the police don't need a lot of reforming, however, did I? Silent3 Feb 2014 #57
Germans and Americans will approach cops differently treestar Feb 2014 #61
There's a big cultural difference Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #84
314 million people (2012) / 800,000 = one per 392 people. Coyotl Feb 2014 #25
"a few bad apples spoils the barrel." is the full term, as Scootaloo said AZ Progressive Feb 2014 #26
Yay cops! stevil Feb 2014 #28
They're your enemies when you do need them as well. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #29
Example? stevil Feb 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Feb 2014 #35
I can see the point on both ends of this argument. defacto7 Feb 2014 #34
Nowhere have I suggested that there aren't big problems to fix Silent3 Feb 2014 #54
My statement was general, not specific to you. defacto7 Feb 2014 #76
So you are willing to accept a 2% level of bad cops? MindPilot Feb 2014 #42
Like I said, queue the straw men. Silent3 Feb 2014 #47
Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #43
Thank you for your cogent, closely COLGATE4 Feb 2014 #44
You are welcome. eom PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #45
With the ALL CAPS response title, I thought you were being sarcastic. Silent3 Feb 2014 #48
It is probably twice that for total public criminal law enforcement FarCenter Feb 2014 #46
I'm not sure what you're arguing for, since the larger the number... Silent3 Feb 2014 #49
US law enforcement officers per 10,000 people looks about average FarCenter Feb 2014 #53
I'm sure all the dead victims and the families left behind appreciate your statistic. Rex Feb 2014 #50
I don't have any statistics DefenseLawyer Feb 2014 #51
It's not the number, it's whether criminal cops are treated like criminals. DetlefK Feb 2014 #52
It wouldn't be wrong to say that there's something wrong with the military, or with the police. Silent3 Feb 2014 #55
Cops as the base of the percentage seems wrong, indeed percentages seem minimally useful HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #59
There's nothing in what I wrote to suggest that simple percentages are the be-all... Silent3 Feb 2014 #65
Percentages, like anecdotes must be considered carefully and compared to something HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #69
Where's the threshold between appropriately sensitive and unrealistically idealistic? Silent3 Feb 2014 #75
Yes, exactly. It's a critical issue, and not really a matter of statistics per se HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #86
agreed, keep in perspective treestar Feb 2014 #60
When it happens to you then your silly op means nothing! L0oniX Feb 2014 #63
The "when it happens to you" perspective is the most important one... Silent3 Feb 2014 #64
Depends of how compassionate a person is about the victim. L0oniX Feb 2014 #66
So the only way to properly express compassion... Silent3 Feb 2014 #68
Seems like you have a list of reasons to be compassionate about the cops. L0oniX Feb 2014 #72
What does what I'm saying have to do with being "compassionate" about cops... Silent3 Feb 2014 #73
so many police because of the legal seizures of cash and assets from their 'war on drugs.' Sunlei Feb 2014 #70
Couple of things.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #77
It isn't just an issue of mental illness...it's the problem of cops dealing with noncompliance HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #87
That's true... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #89
Bad cops are a sign of poor leadership in a community. haele Feb 2014 #83
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