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In reply to the discussion: This comment just rubbed me the wrong way... [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)101. Sooooo much wrong in one place.
Her skills are currently worth twice the minimum. After the mentioned increase she will see her pay reduced back down to minimum
Can you read?
It's a serious question. Because every single response to you in this thread has been about how her pay will go up.
Every.
Single.
Response.
And this:
If this is fair in regards to an equipment operator, why not a teacher? Why not set the new improved minimum to match the average salary of the teacher?
Has been answered.
In Every
Single
Response.
If this is fair in regards to an equipment operator, why not a teacher? Why not set the new improved minimum to match the average salary of the teacher?
Nope. It's just high enough that minimum wage increases have not historically translated directly to higher teacher salaries. As has been explained to you in every single response.
Teachers get paid more than forklift operators due to the higher training and scarcity. Thus the forklift operator in question can expect a bump in pay. But a typical teacher will not. Neither will a typical cab driver. Or a typical plumber. Or a typical software developer. Or a typical lawyer.
Sorry that reality gets in the way of your teacher bashing.
These are the contradictions that arise whenever an agent outside the supply / demand loop attempts to meddle. The government can no more decide what an hour of my time is worth than it can dictate the price of pa piece of art.
Ah, no wonder you're desperately trying to not understand. You're a libertarian. So history must be wrong, and your theories right.
The solution, as I said, is not dragging everyone else down
Good thing that isn't what a minimum wage hike does!
See, Mr. libertarian, time doesn't stop the instant after the minimum wage hike goes through. The forklift operator gets to use her ability to negotiate to change her wages. She's worth an $8/hr premium. If her current employer won't pay her $8/hr more, then she will find another employer willing to pay that premium. Because supply and demand still exist, even with minimum wage laws.
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I hear the best ones are the ones they make at the teabagger concentration camps.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#87
The response is, "Why not build yourself up, instead of bringing others down? Maybe you're not
Brickbat
Feb 2014
#2
I remember back before george w bu$h readjusted the economy, government workers made less, often way
RC
Feb 2014
#59
And bullshit back to you. People are killed and injured working in the food service industry also.
TexasTowelie
Feb 2014
#81
You know what, I've seen people sit on their butts all day doing nothing in both blue collar
TexasTowelie
Feb 2014
#103
PW, I'm often on your side; but I drove a fork lift in Chapel Hill, NC, to supplement ...
11 Bravo
Feb 2014
#43
sadly, i know some family members who just that stupid. they see anything that helps people less off
dionysus
Feb 2014
#29
If her job truly is worth more than minimum wage, then her income would be going up too.
jeff47
Feb 2014
#34
Me neither.... I'm a generous tipper partly because I know they get paid crap...
Adrahil
Feb 2014
#36
How would the critics here feel if we raised wait staff to 15 while lowering teachers to match...
Demo_Chris
Feb 2014
#31
Concur.... though I have had waiters that were definitely what I'd call "skilled."
Adrahil
Feb 2014
#37
Correct. But those criticizing this woman seem to feel HER training and skill are irrelevant...
Demo_Chris
Feb 2014
#38
No, we're criticizing her because she doesn't realize that training premium would still exist.
jeff47
Feb 2014
#40
If that waiter doesn't handle her food properly, she could be crapping and puking and
MADem
Feb 2014
#45
If the person is not happy, then why doesn't the person become a waiter. Salaries are determined by
lostincalifornia
Feb 2014
#73