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In reply to the discussion: Loving a Putsch – Cheering a “Democratic Neo-Nazi Coup” in Ukraine [View all]Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)This game is on my iPhone. One of the options is you can play other users. I do that from time to time. I just finished a game with a user from the Ukraine. I told him that I was happy the trouble seemed to be ending and I hoped his family and friends were well.
I should say I haven't watched the unfolding news there all that closely. Being fairly ignorant of the political situation in the Ukraine my knowledge is probably lacking. However his response was interesting. He said it was good the thieving f..... (game auto edits) Yankovich was gone. It took a long time for people to realize how bad he was.
I mention this because of the news I did see or read. The crowds fighting against the government were enormous. Traditionally fringe elements like neo-nazi groups don't tend to draw that kind of support. That is normally reserved for either religious disputes or groundswell rejections of the powers that be. Think Arab Spring to see what I am alluding to.
I am not there. I am not talking to the people involved. I even admit a goodly amount of ignorance. But to simply declare them all neo nazi seems a little too broadly brushed if you get my meaning. Especially when the Ukraine suffered under the actual Nazi's for a long time. They were victims of the Nazi and the Soviets.
I said victims of the Soviets. Guess where Chernobyl is? The Ukrainian people suffer an extremely high rate of birth defects and cancers thanks to the contamination from that disaster. So it's no wonder the people got uneasy when Yankovich started making sounds like he was going to tie the nation more closely to Russia and eschewed ties with the EU.
There are certainly Nazi's in the crowds. There are probably sexist people. Homophones and homosexuals. Educated and ignorant. But think of our own history. Think of all the revolutions we have seen in the last several years. When that many people are angry, chances are they have a good reason. The LA riots for example, they were furious that Rodney King got no justice.
I doubt many people here on DU have the whole picture. I doubt any of us will ever know the whole truth. But I also doubt that you could get that many people willing to risk everything for the Nazi mentality when the Nazi's murdered so many during WWII. Besides who is left to hate besides the Russians.
Remember this all began with Ukraine rejected the EU, which would be a strange spark to light the fuze of Nazi Revolution.