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ProSense

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27. "leading the way toward banning fracking."
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:51 AM
Feb 2014

Other states are moving to curb the effects of fracking.

Colorado Becomes The First State To Regulate Methane Emissions From Fracking
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/02/24/3322651/colorado-methane-fracking/

One can be against fracking and still have to face the realities of the day. The Obama administration has ramped up solar (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024547836) and other clean energy sources. Environmentalists hate the all-of-the-above approach, and rightfully so. Still, there is going to be a transition.

The administation is in a position to try to regulate a problem controlled by states with laws that vary widely from Texas (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024569123#post26) to Vermont, which banned fracking. Still, there is the reality.

The business of a natural gas pipeline in Vermont
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20130908/NEWS01/309080017/Rutland-or-bust

Vermont pipeline expansion reignites fracking debate
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2013/10/4/vermont-pipelineexpansionreignitesfrackingdebate.html

Propane production up, but U.S. shortage looms

Shale gas producers across the country are pulling so much propane out of natural gas wells, they have quadrupled exports in the last three years. By the end of 2014, Sunoco Logistics Partners will have the capacity to load a million gallons a day of Marcellus Shale propane onto ships at its Marcus Hook terminal south of Philadelphia.

But this winter's weird weather, and a bumper crop of Midwestern corn that required four times more propane for drying, has triggered an unprecedented domestic shortage of the fuel, a byproduct of natural gas production and crude oil refining.

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Elected officials in propane-dependent states are demanding relief. On Feb. 14, the congressional delegation from Vermont, where 15 percent of households heat with propane, called on the U.S. Commerce Department to impose a temporary export ban.

"The problem is that almost all new propane production over the past three years has been exported to more lucrative overseas markets instead of being used to meet consumer demand right here in the United States," said the letter from Sens. Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy and Rep. Peter Welch.

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http://articles.philly.com/2014-02-24/business/47607065_1_much-propane-national-propane-gas-association-marcellus-shale

Emergency Proposal on Propane Prices
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/recent-business/emergency-proposal-on-propane-prices

Why hasn't the Boxer-Sanders climate bill gotten more attention?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024509463

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*ahem* [View all] WilliamPitt Feb 2014 OP
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I want to know. . . ReasonableToo Feb 2014 #14
I find it incredibly disappointing that Governor Brown Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #15
Link to reliable news source? xfundy Feb 2014 #17
Per your request: Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #22
I love one of the comments to your fracking article. SunSeeker Feb 2014 #23
See My Post #20. LA is on the way to banning fracking in Los Angeles. Hooray! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #21
Los Angeles comes through! Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #33
More! proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #48
Absolutely fantastic! I hope other counties follow LA's lead. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #64
Do you think he should have vetoed so there would be no rules? antiquie Feb 2014 #28
I think he should impose a moratorium. Don't you? Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #35
No. antiquie Feb 2014 #36
The Governor is elected by the entire state. Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #37
Not in my universe. ~ nt antiquie Feb 2014 #38
Do you live in a state where the Governor is not elected by the people of the state? Cheese4TheRat Feb 2014 #42
Hell I'll kick this even though I may regret it later in another thread. Agschmid Feb 2014 #18
Who cares? We have more billionaires than any other nation! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #19
But, Los Angeles is leading the way toward banning fracking. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #20
"leading the way toward banning fracking." ProSense Feb 2014 #27
This won't be solved overnight. Obama has ramped up solar. That can be seen JDPriestly Feb 2014 #32
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Invest in water...thats what our investment counselor said. Historic NY Feb 2014 #26
hmmm In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #31
The One Percent already are.... woo me with science Mar 2014 #67
I guess it proves his point... Historic NY Mar 2014 #68
Absolutely. woo me with science Mar 2014 #70
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Actually, that time was 40 years ago. redqueen Feb 2014 #41
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and meanwhile: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #44
It gets worse. proverbialwisdom Feb 2014 #47
It's not like we need water for more important uses, like drinking, growing food, or putting out tclambert Feb 2014 #50
97 billion gallons of water that is forever removed from the cycle Champion Jack Feb 2014 #51
Oh, don't worry about it. Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #52
coming back to when I am not tired. This is astounding rurallib Feb 2014 #53
97 billion gallons of water is 7/10ths of 1% of the annual water consumption in CA. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #54
Except that, in normal use it returns to the cycle Champion Jack Feb 2014 #56
With such a small amount, it doesn't matter. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #57
the "small amounts" impact--but keep trying niyad Mar 2014 #74
link please niyad Feb 2014 #58
97 billion gallons of water is 293,000 acre feet of water. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #60
Being poisoned. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #61
That's not a complete thought. I don't know what you're trying to say. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #62
so it's okay with you to permanently destroy our water, even in the supposedly small amounts niyad Feb 2014 #63
It's not a "supposedly" small amount. It is a small amount by any relevant measure. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #66
Stop trying. ProSense Mar 2014 #71
so you have no problem with the fact that the supposedly (since the figures come from industry, niyad Mar 2014 #73
several weeks ago in the sunday denver post, there was an "article" (which read more like an niyad Feb 2014 #55
Fracking, being an environmental disaster, makes no freakin' sense: neither does TPP or indepat Feb 2014 #59
In 2012, people said we aould get to see the REAL OBama in his 2nd term. bvar22 Mar 2014 #65
Trading Water For Fuel is Fracking Crazy handmade34 Mar 2014 #69
My understanding is that FRESH water is not Ilsa Mar 2014 #72
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