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16. Can you point to any statement by the President "championing Keystone XL"?

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 03:27 PM

Feb 2014

He definitely talks about fracking. I have never heard him "championing Keystone XL"

Last June, President Obama stated the XL pipeline would have to pass the national interest criteria of carbon pollution and climate change impacts:

But I do want to be clear: Allowing the Keystone pipeline to be built requires a finding that doing so would be in our nation’s interest. And our national interest will be served only if this project does not significantly exacerbate the problem of carbon pollution. The net effects of the pipeline’s impact on our climate will be absolutely critical to determining whether this project is allowed to go forward. It’s relevant.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024497062

“There is no evidence that that’s true,” he said. Obama noted temporary jobs would be created during the construction of the pipeline, but after that, “we’re talking about somewhere between 50 and 100 (chuckles) jobs in an economy of 150 million working people.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024423143

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If the commentary was about "the environment" ProSense Feb 2014 #24

Sorry, I should have been more specific. progressoid Feb 2014 #29

aka means whatever you want to refer to it as. Rex Feb 2014 #55

Nah, I'm calling the question Vapid and Insipid. the OP is about "economic inequality", too. Cha Feb 2014 #35

Can you point to any statement by the President "championing Keystone XL"? ProSense Feb 2014 #16

... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #21

What does ProSense Feb 2014 #33

That IS Keystone XL. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #36

No, it's absolutely not the pipeline under review. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #38

That pipe runs from OK to the TX coast. jeff47 Feb 2014 #44

All good politicians are bullshit artists of no mean skill cali Feb 2014 #7

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A-Fuckin-men....para 6 nails the entire " debate" in my opinion . Nt pkdu Feb 2014 #15

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