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In reply to the discussion: Has the Left Surrendered? - BillMoyers.com [View all]whathehell
(29,067 posts)5. Yes, as Bill Maher said..
"The Democrats have moved to the Right and the Right has moved to the Mental Hospital".
Seriously, though, as a Boomer growing up in the Sixties, I too am actually frightened by how "right"
most of the Democratic party has moved. I like Obama, personally, but as Thom Hartmann and others
have said, he's arguably less liberal than Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower.
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my wife and I are as left/liberal as always - but it is breathtaking to see how right-ward
NRaleighLiberal
Feb 2014
#1
I'm a liberal product of the Sixties also. No doubt about President Obama
A Simple Game
Feb 2014
#40
Worse: Joe Lieberman was his "mentor"...he admits to that in one of his books.
loudsue
Mar 2014
#116
Wow, I get to have some comedy this morning. Reputable sources, how funny?
A Simple Game
Mar 2014
#154
Just google it. He was asked during the first campaign which President had influenced him
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#104
Obama is soo FAR to The Right that he is ashamed to call himself a real DEMOCRAT.
bvar22
Mar 2014
#180
I take your point about Obama-and most Democratic politicians, for that matter, but
merrily
Mar 2014
#123
You will see President Kucinich or Bernie Sanders if we get campaign finance reform
Cleita
Feb 2014
#45
But it doesn't show that they would vote for "President" Kucinich or Bernie Sanders.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2014
#51
Thou thinketh WRONG. We ARE the majority without whom 'you guys' wouldn't come close to winning
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#108
Just so everyone knows to take your grandiose proclamations with a HUGE grain of salt.....
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2014
#208
We ARE the majority. And without Liberals, 'you guys' to quote you, could not win an election.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#216
But HRC didn't say that "RT is now viewed by 50 mil US households". Sabrina did!
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2014
#217
Got paid? I wish. (I missed the part where Kucinich won the Dem primary, let alone
merrily
Mar 2014
#201
Liberals, even in the majority, have an uphill battle against the corporate-centrists and
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#184
We are in a class war and those among us that favor corporations and corporation sponsored
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#229
You'd think so wouldn't you? But that doesn't seem to be their goal. Far from it.
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2014
#203
Your rude emoticon so noted. Your side definitely has Citizens United on your side.
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#183
Yes, that was a tactic we won't be falling for anymore. In fact if I see that from now on, THAT is
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#109
Some of the Left buys into the "Not as bad" rationale of the 3rd Way Centrists.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2014
#2
I think many on the Left are beginning to examine the "lesser evil" theory versus
merrily
Mar 2014
#209
They could be a saint or they could be tough, but they better know where the money
merrily
Mar 2014
#136
It's difficult to run against the corporate power structure of the DEmocratic Party machine.
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#187
I don't agree that 80% of democrats 'want' Hillary for president. Those polls were Hillary V
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#6
I, too, "won't be supporting any corporate candidate, or anyone who voted for the Iraq War"
red dog 1
Feb 2014
#18
I would focus on Congress, which in the end is how to return power to the people.
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#39
Yes, you are right, we need to be all over the place, electing only Progressive Dems and in the
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#112
Agreed. And add to that the people calling themselves liberal aren't really liberal.
cui bono
Feb 2014
#13
"We're Eisenhower Republicans here," says Bill Clinton in a devastating Reed quote,
red dog 1
Feb 2014
#8
"social issues and identity politics at the expense of the economic questions"
geek tragedy
Feb 2014
#12
Point out where Moyers, now boxed and labeled by you, states that human rights for anyone
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#43
Where is the link I requested? You made claims re Moyers, and btw, how do you know that
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#70
Correction, YOU'RE done here. And just what is the significance of searching to find out
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#79
Not that it matters, but many homosexuals of his day married and had children.
merrily
Mar 2014
#131
Sickening, isn't it, to actually see this kind of thing creeping onto Democratic forums now.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#162
Sickening, isn't it, to actually see this kind of thing creeping onto Democratic forums now.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#162
Most people with a knowledge of history and who are not narow, thoughtless and selfish
Number23
Mar 2014
#107
1) Moyers apparently didn't say this, so that was my error; 2) your comment
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#177
Is it by design that "social issues and identity politics" suck almost all the air from politics? nt
proverbialwisdom
Feb 2014
#25
I don't think support for Hillary Clinton demonstrates that the left has surrendered...
C0RYH0FFMAN
Feb 2014
#28
What do you mean by 'we'? Obama ran as an opponent of marriage equality, we moved
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#225
To me....much of the Dem leadership is nothing more than con men and hucksters. Give people a few...
yourout
Feb 2014
#34
Hey Bill! You can always try these guys, I hear they're taking over Senate & House seats everywhere.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2014
#50
And so they should, since the dems don't want to touch the real problems!n/t
sadoldgirl
Feb 2014
#83
once in a while it would be nice to vote FOR someone and not just against the repub
dembotoz
Feb 2014
#57
Actually, Republicans owe their success to the takeover of the Beltway Media....
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#189
End of 2009. When I realized the electing a Dem didn't change what I wanted it to.
Bonobo
Mar 2014
#143
politics is now corporate business, voters are captive customers in a monopoly of
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#168
Thanks, and agree, it's like BP saying they care about the environment, more slogan than policy- nt
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#174