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Jeff In Milwaukee

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120. Ummmm....no

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:36 PM

Feb 2014

They're picked up by the police for soliciting, but before being charged, they're are given an offer of diversion. If they don't want that, then they get legal representation as usual. Why clog the court system (and give a first-time offender an arrest record) when you can avoid that?

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Police arresting suspected prostitutes, taking them to church [View all] n2doc Feb 2014 OP

WTF? Sounds like a lawsuit to me. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #1

Absolutely! Feral Child Feb 2014 #5

I'm pretty sure police can detain you for hours with actually aressting you. Mosby Feb 2014 #52

If your movements are curtailed, if you are not free to leave Feral Child Feb 2014 #88

Here Mosby Feb 2014 #90

Yes, but Feral Child Mar 2014 #121

Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #102

Another great reason for Separation of Church and State. democratisphere Feb 2014 #2

Yes get the red out Feb 2014 #84

Combination of a police state with theocracy! Very very dangerous to the survival of RKP5637 Feb 2014 #101

Did they also take the johns to church? nt DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3

No, but Phx haa a Johns school. ChazII Feb 2014 #10

I wonder if it teaches them to be better johns? NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #98

In this paternalistic world, they're the victims, of course. nt valerief Feb 2014 #17

Now why would cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #19

What the hell? HappyMe Feb 2014 #4

In a strange way, this is really a form of sex trafficking! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #103

This program sounds really fucked up and unconstitutional. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #6

Are you going to applaud the police when they "think outside the box" like this to the gays? icymist Feb 2014 #11

Reading is fundamental. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #13

How does forcing people to church help them????? nt valerief Feb 2014 #18

Thank you for making my point about reading being fundamental. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #54

You said both. icymist Feb 2014 #81

Please show me where I said the program was good? NCTraveler Feb 2014 #82

You are really good at double speak: icymist Feb 2014 #99

As I said, you will not find where I support the program. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #112

You have told me more than you know. icymist Feb 2014 #118

Yes, as is the right to an attorney HappyMe Feb 2014 #20

Agree on all points. Something needs to happen.... NCTraveler Feb 2014 #55

Definitely judicial. HappyMe Feb 2014 #57

Yeah, reading, starting with the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #30

Agree. Stated before your reply that I believe this is unconstitutional. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #56

diversion isn't really outside the box--the part that's outside the box geek tragedy Feb 2014 #12

You are right, diversion isn't really outside the box. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #14

Why make prostitution illegal? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #26

"Why make prostitution illegal?" NCTraveler Feb 2014 #60

icymist is correct, this is seriously fucked up. Nika Feb 2014 #85

While I can't fault them for trying new solutions, forcing religion on one RKP5637 Feb 2014 #106

I believe I am the one who stated that this was fucked up in my original post. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #113

this is in the United states? barbtries Feb 2014 #7

This is what some want the US to be, a Police State Theocracy! Typical ruse, they RKP5637 Feb 2014 #109

So basically the police department KIDANPPED people held them against their will. diabeticman Feb 2014 #8

Yup. They were falsely told that they HappyMe Feb 2014 #9

If they weren't officially arrested, JoeyT Feb 2014 #15

Agreed. That's just f'ed up. GreenPartyVoter Feb 2014 #16

What Would Jesus Do With Hookers jsr Feb 2014 #21

That would have depended on how horny he was and how much coin he had. Nika Feb 2014 #87

What kind of a church wants to see people dragged in there in handcuffs? Jerry442 Feb 2014 #22

Probably most... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #28

I don't get the Jesus/Jeebus thing... demwing Feb 2014 #105

the simpsons SwampG8r Feb 2014 #114

The church of inquisition! I think many would love this opportunity. Religion is RKP5637 Feb 2014 #110

Where are Holder and the ACLU? DFW Feb 2014 #23

Holder is not feeling too well right now (nt) Helen Borg Feb 2014 #29

Arizona, of course! Coyotl Feb 2014 #24

This is abominable. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2014 #25

Meanwhile... Church membership up! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #27

Not arrested? Am I free to go.... or am I being illegally detained? rdharma Feb 2014 #31

I wonder if they took drug arrests to church if it would be seen the same way Cleita Feb 2014 #32

Let's unpack this a little... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #33

I find it curious that no arrests were made..... and they are offering a "diversion program". rdharma Feb 2014 #35

It's a diversion program.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #39

Just like they said "Accept the Cross or Die!" during the crusades. rdharma Feb 2014 #42

Ummm...no Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #48

No. You can't force them to make that choice.... without an arrest. rdharma Feb 2014 #50

Ummmm....no Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #59

I find it curious that you try to put words in my mouth. rdharma Feb 2014 #62

Ummmm....no Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #65

Second verse..... the same as the first. rdharma Feb 2014 #67

Your words... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #70

rdharma's analogy is correct. Jeff in Milw's is greatly flawed. hue Feb 2014 #74

Thank-you. But I can speak for myself. nt rdharma Feb 2014 #75

His argument here is the same as below. Obv his mind is stuck in a rut or broken record. hue Feb 2014 #72

Get a room, you two (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #78

They could say just arrest me and then go to trial treestar Feb 2014 #91

So are you OK with this if the women are arrested first? demwing Feb 2014 #108

Who says? Crepuscular Feb 2014 #107

Ummmm....no Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #120

Nothing says that you care more than HappyMe Feb 2014 #37

The women involved were NOT legally arrested! They were cuffed & held against their will!! hue Feb 2014 #38

I read the entire article... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #40

Walking down that road to freedom in handcuffs.... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #43

Ummmm....no Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #51

Prostitutes have civil rights too. HappyMe Feb 2014 #46

They don't have the right to commit a crime... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #49

I don't live in AZ, so can't run for office. HappyMe Feb 2014 #53

Judas Priest.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #61

Then the fucking U of Fucking AZ HappyMe Feb 2014 #64

I'm pretty sure they have a law school there... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #66

We will have to agree to disagree. HappyMe Feb 2014 #68

You are clearly WRONG! hue Feb 2014 #71

Oh....well.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #79

A church basement vs. a jail cell awaiting arraignment treestar Feb 2014 #92

There's a certain Pavlovian element on DU Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #93

The women were NOT LEGALLY ARRESTED! They were handcuffed & kidnapped, & held against their will. hue Feb 2014 #69

Oh dear... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #77

not arguing with you Jeff d_r Feb 2014 #41

OK. First of all.... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #47

When it comes to the Catholic Church there is NO seperation of church & state. hue Feb 2014 #34

You're not under arrest ..... BUT!!!! rdharma Feb 2014 #36

So true! All about misogynous male control! They control the chuchy peeps also! hue Feb 2014 #73

Class action sue the bloody pants off them. aquart Feb 2014 #44

Isn't this unConstitutional? KansDem Feb 2014 #45

Yeah.... ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #63

Are you serious? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #80

Nah... KansDem Feb 2014 #83

Totally with you on that one... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2014 #86

Legalize prostitution JJChambers Feb 2014 #58

Agree! & Churches should pay taxes!! hue Feb 2014 #76

sounds like kidnapping to me. eom PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #89

How is this even legal... NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #94

Possession of condoms is considered suspicion of prostitution RainDog Feb 2014 #95

So if one of the girls were Jewish... yuiyoshida Feb 2014 #96

This story has almost convinced me that prostitution should be legalized. Zorra Feb 2014 #97

I wonder what Arizona's definition of procurement is. (NT) Heywood J Feb 2014 #100

The article suggests this is more about targeting trans people than helping hookers live better MindPilot Feb 2014 #104

There is nothing wrong with offering this and other diversion programs as a plea bargain or sentence stevenleser Feb 2014 #111

From on of the former prostitutes ChazII Feb 2014 #115

Which is great, but is she saying that if she was more formally arrested and offered this through stevenleser Feb 2014 #116

Excellent question and ChazII Feb 2014 #117

nothing suprised me anymore warrprayer Feb 2014 #119

The Young Turks speak out on this shit....... rdharma Mar 2014 #122