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In reply to the discussion: "Let's work to end racial discrimination" is a better approach than "whites are so privileged". [View all]BainsBane
(53,001 posts)I was talking about DUers. Obviously it relates to Democrats. That was the entire point of the thread and my response. No one ever pretended to be talking about anyone else. Nye Bevan's OP is about discussion on DU. Mine was in response to what I have read on DU in the AA forum. It's isn't about conservative or Republican African Americans, your family, or the broader community more generally. It is about discussion on DU.
For the record, I am not a member of the BOG group and don't post there, but I certainly am not going to malign those who do. You are the one who said the AA group and the BOG group are made up of the same people. The AA group is a much smaller group comprised principally of African Americans. Then you get pissed off at me because I ask if you think only AAs support Obama, after you said the two groups were the same.
Where have I done this? Show me:
Your argument has been that whites don't have any business telling black folks about how to combat racism but here you are telling a black person that you are right and I need to agree with the tune you want to play.
Look, if you agree with the OP that he and a few other white men on DU should be able to control all discussion, that's your business. But to get pissed off at me because I disagree with that and then FALSELY claim I am telling you that you have to agree with is bullshit. I have said repeatedly the post you first responded to was directed at the OP. It asked what he considered a productive discussion about race, which he never answered. You launched into a series of accusations that I was supposedly telling you to believe something when I wasn't even addressing you. I never even knew of you when I wrote that post.
You go on to say this: Yet you say this:
The whole point of denying white privilege is so they can pretend racism has nothing to do with them. That is what Nye Bevan has insisted that he is in no way affected by racist ideas that are endemic to American society and is essentially above it all. His whole point is NOT to process. When racism has nothing to do with anyone, it doesn't exist. There is no racism. People love to point fingers, in this case the likely target is Republicans. If not for Republicans there would be no racism. I think we both know that isn't true.
The other point is your quote above contradicts your statement to me. You are comfortable with Nye controlling discussion about racism on this board, yet insist my disagreeing with him is somehow telling you what to think. If even that argument were true, it's ideologically inconsistent.
The other point is in every single discussion about racism, these guys make it all about themselves. The responses to this thread are a prime example. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4531063 That's the same for women's issues. There as another thread were someone decided that people shouldn't refer to themselves or others according to the racial discriptors used today because we live in a color blind society. When an African American woman joined the discussion, a poster told her that she shouldn't be participating because she was "out of her element." http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10024580035&alert=96#post96 You couldn't make that shit up, yet you're pissed off at me?
The fact is they want to control the discussion because they always see their own egos as more important than any issue, than racism, equal rights, or whatever. They literally think how they feel reading a thread is more important your life experience, that of your family, or any one but themselves. That is evident in how they respond to those issues. But hey, you want to be pissed and me and make up shit claiming I told you what to think. It makes zero sense to me.