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ProSense

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Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:23 AM

Mar 2014

"It took a Democratic President to lift the ban on offshore drilling, AFTER slamming McCain"

...he was slamming McCain for specific reasons. The ban on offshore drilling was lifted by Bush before it expired in 2008

Bush lifts executive ban on offshore oil drilling
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/14/bush.offshore/

Congress to let offshore drilling ban expire
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/09/24/us-usa-drilling-banenviro-idUSTRE48N6AF20080924

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The Obama administration’s plan adopts some drilling proposals floated by President George W. Bush near the end of his tenure, including opening much of the Atlantic and Arctic Coasts. Those proposals were challenged in court on environmental grounds and set aside by President Obama shortly after he took office.

Unlike the Bush plan, however, Mr. Obama’s proposal would put Bristol Bay, home to major Alaskan commercial fisheries and populations of endangered whales, off limits to oil rigs.

Actual drilling in much of the newly opened areas, if it takes place, would not begin for years.

Mr. Obama said several times during his presidential campaign that he supported expanded offshore drilling. He noted in his State of the Union address in January that weaning the country from imported oil would require “tough decisions about opening new offshore areas for oil and gas development.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/science/earth/31energy.html

There were changes after the BP spill.

Obama Administration Contempt Ruling in Drill Ban Overturned

A contempt citation against the Obama administration for instituting a second deep-water drilling ban after a lower-court judge rejected an initial moratorium was thrown out by a U.S. appeals court.

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-11-28/obama-administration-contempt-ruling-in-drill-ban-overturned

Obama administration bans Shell from Arctic drilling after they ‘screwed up’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/15/obama-administration-bans-shell-from-arctic-drilling-after-they-screwed-up/

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here's a link Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #17

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you are unclear on what is happening. when right minded people see Obama being unjustly attacked Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #29

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Vote count, don't they? Skidmore Feb 2014 #60

Sorry, a little slow. didn't understand that one. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2014 #61

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I am hoping that you are right since I have seen other presidents who got the most done in the jwirr Feb 2014 #20

k&r(nt) The Straight Story Feb 2014 #2

Holy fracking shit!! johnnyreb Feb 2014 #3

Bloody hell!!! truebrit71 Feb 2014 #4

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Yep... WillyT Feb 2014 #7

And they signed off on it in 2013. arcane1 Feb 2014 #27

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You Gotta Be Fucking Kidding, Right ??? WillyT Feb 2014 #8

No, it's math Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #12

wow. talk about removing all doubt cali Feb 2014 #18

look what goes into effect March 1 (tomorrow) Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #19

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no problem. you are like Cheney's special group. find anything to support your bias Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #23

lol. you are so transparent, pretzy. trying to portray me as Cheny like. Oooh. cali Feb 2014 #34

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I am sure that the marine life Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #11

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I agree. Which is why I imagine the folks at the EPA have a bit more knowledge than truthout or Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #35

It may be matters of law/regulatory rules as much as matters of science. HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #40

Let's play, "Guess the Point." I am guessing that you support dumping fracking waste water rhett o rick Feb 2014 #53

Only if done during the Obama administration. Autumn Feb 2014 #69

If blind loyalty is put before principles, then they have no principles. Just sayin' nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #71

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K&R G_j Feb 2014 #10

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People take clues from their boss. jsr Feb 2014 #50

yes, and they take directives. cali Feb 2014 #51

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Has anyone FOI the permits? methanol, benzene, naphthalene, and trimethylbenzene, lead and arsenic Sunlei Feb 2014 #28

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I Know EXACTLY Where They Can Put It... WillyT Feb 2014 #38

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"But the ACA!" whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #36

Four years ago. jsr Feb 2014 #52

k and r. bbgrunt Feb 2014 #41

POISON You Can Believe In blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #42

These permits were approved ProSense Feb 2014 #47

Oh... Well Everything Must Be Just Peachy-Keen Then... WillyT Feb 2014 #48

If that's what you want to take away, knock yourself out. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #49

Thanks for the info, but do you have a point? How do you feel about the OP? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #54

Yes, the point is to share the information. ProSense Feb 2014 #55

So you dont care one way or the other about dumping contaminated waste-water into the ocean? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #57

Yes, I "care one way or the other." ProSense Feb 2014 #58

What Did They Leave Out ?? WillyT Feb 2014 #70

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as long as the 1% is enriched by this all is ok frwrfpos Feb 2014 #68

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No, ProSense Mar 2014 #77

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kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #79