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woo me with science

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30. You mistake rhetoric for intent.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 12:51 PM
Mar 2014

His behavior tells the tale. He lied during the campaign and said that he would submit a budget that included Medicaid expansion. That would have been a concrete demonstration of his seriousness on the issue. He has completely backtracked on that.

The argument will be about helplessness again, as it always is. Why bother to put it in the budget, if Republicans won't pass it?

This is the Third Way con game, and we've seen it before. Obama campaigned passionately for a public option, but once the actual insurance company negotiations were underway, he never mentioned it again and quietly dropped it in a backroom deal...even though and probably *because* polls showed great public support that could have been mobilized to pressure Republicans to accept it.

Once again, a Third Way politician talked specifically about what he would *do* to push forward a progressive policy, but then changed his mind once in office. Now we face a drawn-out Kabuki of PR legislative negotiations in which the Republicans will have the upper hand, and that the papers, and McAuliffe's own choices about his budget, are already saying will go nowhere.

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Hear, hear! Laelth Mar 2014 #1
Good Morning, Laelth. cali Mar 2014 #2
My pleasure, and good morning to you. Bonus kick. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #13
All Democrats should take heed of this quote! Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #59
K & R. The Friedman worship has got to go. HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #3
Add my 2 Virginia Senators to your list of corpo Dems. stillwaiting Mar 2014 #4
Thanks. Absolutely true that corporations have a deep bench of dems cali Mar 2014 #6
Yup, and now Terry McAuliffe as governor. woo me with science Mar 2014 #11
You are completely wrong. He's still working for Medicaid expansion. FSogol Mar 2014 #18
You mistake rhetoric for intent. woo me with science Mar 2014 #30
And you insert "third way" & some generic anti-corporate nonsense as a excuse to criticize Democrats. FSogol Mar 2014 #38
From your own article: woo me with science Mar 2014 #50
+1 a whole bunch! "rhetorical oiliness" Enthusiast Mar 2014 #73
How come when I go to meetings and events in my district with other Democrats, attitude like yours FSogol Mar 2014 #88
You have hit upon how Third Way has successfully dragged the party to the right. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #94
All I hear is online malcontents that refuse to do the hard work of getting good people elected FSogol Mar 2014 #95
Wait, ProSense Mar 2014 #5
I don't answer questions from you until you can cali Mar 2014 #7
LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #27
Why are you posting on this "politically liberal" message board? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #60
Because I more progressive than you, and evidently that annoys you. ProSense Mar 2014 #62
I give you credit for being exactly as progressive as Obama on each and every issue. Lasher Mar 2014 #64
Good point. The Democratic Party has shifted so far right that some think that supporting the TPP rhett o rick Mar 2014 #77
How would we tell, you rarely give an opinion. And your rude emoticon rhett o rick Mar 2014 #75
ProSense always gives an opinion nxylas Mar 2014 #80
Another one just got alerting privileges suspended for 24 hours. Lasher Mar 2014 #63
Not to hijack but say what dsc Mar 2014 #89
Yes, that is true. Lasher Mar 2014 #91
Because ProSense holds liberal positions Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #67
Liberal? Wow the Democrats have shifted to the right. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #76
I and others have said EXACTLY the same thing to you. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #86
Like this one? bvar22 Mar 2014 #92
D)stop reminding people of actual things Cali said previously Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #66
So who can beat Landrieu and Manchin treestar Mar 2014 #8
I don't know. I don't live there. cali Mar 2014 #9
So you have no solutions? treestar Mar 2014 #31
Voters get insulted constantly on the DU Fumesucker Mar 2014 #39
That's really the point... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #12
That's *exactly* the dilemma for Democrats in LA. Well said. pacalo Mar 2014 #65
Money can buy ads and help influence voters treestar Mar 2014 #98
Republicans tooeyeten Mar 2014 #21
Worse than Landrieu Roy Rolling Mar 2014 #29
Voila tooeyeten Mar 2014 #32
Don't be injecting rational questions into a perfectly good outrage...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #26
Efforts to unseat conservative dems (republicans with a 'D' after their name) Kermitt Gribble Mar 2014 #57
Thank you for that link. Lasher Mar 2014 #87
Or the party just has the savvy to realize that it is a waste of money and of a seat treestar Mar 2014 #99
A Charismatic Populist, (a la Huey Long) running on a platform of bvar22 Mar 2014 #58
why the horse and gun DonCoquixote Mar 2014 #79
The Horse & The Gun: An unfortunate reality of Life in these United States bvar22 Mar 2014 #93
If you are going to hold out Long as an example of someone who isn't corrupt dsc Mar 2014 #90
Didn't say he wasn't corrupt, bvar22 Mar 2014 #104
A nice dream treestar Mar 2014 #100
Well, one must make it beyond the conservative BIg Money Democratic Party gate keepers. bvar22 Mar 2014 #105
Do you have opinions or just questions? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #61
What an ill-natured response treestar Mar 2014 #101
A good way to start a discussion is to give your opinion instead of making rhett o rick Mar 2014 #106
deals with the devil heaven05 Mar 2014 #10
That's because the people who helped put them in office have skin in the game. BKH70041 Mar 2014 #14
The homeless, unemployed and hungry agree. L0oniX Mar 2014 #16
Good BKH70041 Mar 2014 #17
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #24
Talk to yourself much? L0oniX Mar 2014 #36
Post #24 was a continuation of Post #14 BKH70041 Mar 2014 #37
Speaking of "recognizing" you might want to use that little "edit post" tab... L0oniX Mar 2014 #53
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I hope MIRT lets us play with it for a while. L0oniX Mar 2014 #47
Interesting choice of wording Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #69
LOL, that was pretty funny dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #96
DU is not sociopath free ...obviously. L0oniX Mar 2014 #97
skin = money= bad politics. tomp Mar 2014 #84
I don't see those that are not corprodems exposing dinos/them or calling them out. L0oniX Mar 2014 #15
This is a very good point. woo me with science Mar 2014 #35
K&R...for truth. zeemike Mar 2014 #19
Is Mary Landrieu Profiting from Her Position? On the Road Mar 2014 #20
seriously? cali Mar 2014 #22
If Mary Landrieu was a DU member we would call her a troll. L0oniX Mar 2014 #48
agreed...no need to try to put lipstick on those pigs noiretextatique Mar 2014 #23
And today's Wheel of Outrage lands on... Other Democrats!!... SidDithers Mar 2014 #25
Can Wolf Blizter play too? L0oniX Mar 2014 #41
Andy Richter kicked Wolf's ass... SidDithers Mar 2014 #55
the wheel of outrage keeps a turnin, we know it'll still be here tomorrow, oooh the wheel of outrage dionysus Mar 2014 #74
Did Democrats Just Put Mississippi's Senate Seat In Play? ProSense Mar 2014 #28
A Democrat who can win in a red state or red district is a rare commodity. If you... stevenleser Mar 2014 #33
let me ask you: is there anything a dem could do that cali Mar 2014 #42
Attacking me will not help the problems with your logic. You need to address those before pointing stevenleser Mar 2014 #43
lol. classic. what "problems with logic", stephen? you neglected to point cali Mar 2014 #45
Sure I did. You need an alternative if you want to remove a red state/district Democrat. stevenleser Mar 2014 #46
wow. your lack of logic is stunning cali Mar 2014 #54
LOL, you have to say that because you have nothing on this. Anyone can complain Cali. stevenleser Mar 2014 #71
You don't understand. Cali is not providing constructive recommendations Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #68
Oh, I get it. I'm just pointing out how that doesn't work. Anyone can do that and every politician stevenleser Mar 2014 #70
...because a Repuke using a Dem political identity makes it all good. L0oniX Mar 2014 #44
the thing is, that poster knows that I'm not saying we should cali Mar 2014 #49
Do we want the rest of the US swilton Mar 2014 #34
K&R! TeamPooka Mar 2014 #51
Not fair to the four-legged pigs. Otherwise, true. polichick Mar 2014 #52
Anyone that puts money above all else, has no party. Rex Mar 2014 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Phlem Mar 2014 #72
Pig, meet lipstick. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #78
You can call a pig a democrat, but yes, it's still a pig... Larry Ogg Mar 2014 #81
Free trade globalists are pigs! B Calm Mar 2014 #82
K & R ctsnowman Mar 2014 #83
Joe Manchin is the best we could do. Lasher Mar 2014 #85
Being a red state Democrat is tough Gothmog Mar 2014 #102
kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #103
K&R for pointing out the obvious "not as bad" pols at the trough. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #107
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