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In reply to the discussion: There has been no 'invasion' of the Ukraine, yet our M$M seems to want everyone to believe there was [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)3. I don't think that state/provincial governments get to invite foreign armies in.
Do western planners truly believe that Russia will let an long time ally's government be violently over thrown, and walk away when assistance is requested to keep the peace?
How do you figure that Yanukovych was "violently overthrown"?
After months of massive, sustained public protests through a Ukrainian winter, he agreed to remain in office until early elections in December and to use security forces to protect public buildings.
What did he do? Rather than remain in office and do his job with the protection of the security forces but likely lose the election, he decided to pursue a different strategy.
Within hours of signing the agreement with the protesters (with the police, army and security forces firmly under his control), he hastily abandoned his residence and left Kiev. Before leaving he ordered security forces to not protect public buildings. Why issue an order contradicting the agreement he had just signed? He (and Putin?) hoped that images of mobs burning and looting public buildings would create an image of lawlessness and violence that could be used to justify military intervention. Of course the looting and burning did not happen (much to the surprise of Yanukovych and Putin), but that did not change the spin.
If he had simply lived up to the agreement he signed with the protesters 8 days ago, he would be sitting in Kiev running the government pending elections in December.
I don't think so, and so I am really curious where our planners think they are taking us with all this saber rattling.
What saber rattling have you head. I have not heard one government official say one word about using the military to respond to Russia's use of the military.
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There has been no 'invasion' of the Ukraine, yet our M$M seems to want everyone to believe there was [View all]
Wet Willie
Mar 2014
OP
If a foreign country had soldiers in this country without the government's approval
mythology
Mar 2014
#5
I don't think that state/provincial governments get to invite foreign armies in.
pampango
Mar 2014
#3
The Autonomous Republic of Crimea's local government & the democratically elected leader of Ukraine
Wet Willie
Mar 2014
#7
The Governor of Alabama may think he can invite in foreign armies. That does not mean he can.
pampango
Mar 2014
#10
thank you for a reasonable response to the Putin propaganda. There are many who have
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#50
I think such an OTT & rude post should come with some proof, it'll be interesting to see yours. nt.
polly7
Mar 2014
#32
Considering our how many countries we've stuck our noses (and military) into
Jake Stern
Mar 2014
#11
He was impeached by a vote of the Ukrainian parliament. That kinda destroys your argument. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#25
That has no bearing on the impeachment. He has no part in that process even if he had been there.
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#29
Now you are raising the Ukrainian protesters to the status of "armed insurrection"? LMAO!
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#36
It just got even better. The Ukrainian protesters were an "armed insurrection"!
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#37
I've spent a long time trying just to understand politics in the USA with limited success
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#39
There are always reasons to justify unprovoked wars of aggression. Just ask George W. Bush. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#24
Thankfully the M$M saved us by pointing out all the untruths the Cheney regency was telling
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#44