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hrmjustin

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5. I don't want the cia playing games.

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Sat Mar 1, 2014, 10:15 PM

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We shouldn't--and we won't--start a war with Russia over Ukraine. But.... [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 OP

I agree that Russia should be ashamed for taking advantage of the situation. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #1

And? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #2

No to US military action. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

I agree with that Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #4

I don't want the cia playing games. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #5

You can bet they already are. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #9

Probably. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #12

What if this was setup by the CIA to cause war in order to justify more Pentagon $$$ JaneyVee Mar 2014 #21

Who knows! This is the US and CA Russia playing games. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #22

We would probably be shocked if we could know the truth of it. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #63

If that war happens, you will never hear from any of us again. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #49

No 1awake Mar 2014 #77

They very likely caused the whole thing. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #62

The CIA has likely been playing games all along. davidn3600 Mar 2014 #19

Thats true. These big powers are playing games with Ukraine. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #20

Amen from me. If certain people, like McCain, would babylonsister Mar 2014 #7

I agree. People need to realize we can't do everything. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #10

Let's see the U.S. invaded Iraq. They said it was because of WMDs, but the real reason was oil. The lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #27

Yes oil is the reason. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #30

And Bush belongs in the Hague. joshcryer Mar 2014 #71

Actually, the people of the Crimea are quite happy with Putin tonight. I have no problem with that. reformist2 Mar 2014 #6

There are always reasons to justify unprovoked wars of aggression. Just ask George W. Bush. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #25

What amazes me are the number of DUers who suddenly become fans of such wars... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #41

They are behaving like negative nationalists as described by Orwell. stevenleser Mar 2014 #43

It's ironic how the most accessible online library about Orwell... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #53

I agree. If Orwell were writing this now, he would replace Britain with the US in that essay. stevenleser Mar 2014 #54

Thanks for posting the Orwell. amandabeech Mar 2014 #67

Very few DUers are in favor of any kind of war with anyone. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #64

I completely agree with that sentiment ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #82

Yeah there were many Americans quite happy with bush-cheney Cha Mar 2014 #57

What do you know that the rest of of us do not know? Jenoch Mar 2014 #70

It is starting to sound like that is not true. joshcryer Mar 2014 #72

The Russians are glorious liberators who are bringing freedom and liberty penultimate Mar 2014 #8

Just like we do. 840high Mar 2014 #42

Nope... PosterChild Mar 2014 #55

For sure... penultimate Mar 2014 #61

Putin needs to have much worse happen then condemnation. If the Ukraine doesn't ignite a war okaawhatever Mar 2014 #11

Putin is pure evil and is now an aggressor Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #15

The US plotted a coup against an elected leader cprise Mar 2014 #45

I, like GWBUSH, looked into Putin's eyes/soul Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #46

Ummmm CBS... Yeah, you definitely seem like a CBS guy. cprise Mar 2014 #48

Lol. I don't have cable or satellite Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #50

Are you saying Bush looked into a mirror and saw his soul? I agree. polly7 Mar 2014 #76

Putin is evil, no matter what the US the has done. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #51

Those are very simplistic labels cprise Mar 2014 #52

I'll just go with the definition of evil. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #84

Ah, that link. Igel Mar 2014 #59

Its quite clear. cprise Mar 2014 #68

I don't get that sense. This doesn't seem like a victory for him, it seems more TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #17

That post makes no sense to me. Igel Mar 2014 #60

Simple fact is that he couldn't influence at least half of the country to TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #65

Since Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for the US/UK/Russia gaurentee of kelly1mm Mar 2014 #13

There's nothing wrong with Putin that a couple of our drones wouldn't cure nt LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #14

Killing a head of state... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #31

It's not going to happen. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #34

Yeah, I hear ya. awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #37

Oh yeah. that wouldn't at all create an insanely ultranationalistic environment in Russian politics. JVS Mar 2014 #56

Agreed. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #16

I think the situation is far more complicated than what would warrant obvious condemnation alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #18

The US will not engage, unless the NATO treaty alittlelark Mar 2014 #23

Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO and abandoned plans to join long ago jsr Mar 2014 #79

Do you understand that at least half the population of Ukraine is ethnic russian? Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #24

See my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #26

There isnt going to be any aggression. Crimea will vote to separate from Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #28

The unprovoked war of aggression has already started. Russia admitted its troops are operating in stevenleser Mar 2014 #29

The troops are in Crimea, where they appear to be very welcomed. LisaL Mar 2014 #32

Once again, see my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #33

there is no war going on. Your rhetoric is ridiculous. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #35

Once again, see my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #36

The territorial integrity agreement likely precludes that. Chan790 Mar 2014 #38

Good point. That treaty and agreement, WHICH RUSSIA SIGNED, prohibits them doing what they are doing stevenleser Mar 2014 #39

And NATO was never to expand east... MattSh Mar 2014 #75

See my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #78

Apparently the point eluded you. MattSh Mar 2014 #80

None of which justifies the war crime of an unprovoked war of aggression. stevenleser Mar 2014 #81

the agreement will be ignored. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #40

Only after it has been put under complete military control, of course. joshcryer Mar 2014 #73

Putin kardonb Mar 2014 #44

I agree with you on this, pretty much. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #47

Russian history comprises repeating cycles of collapse followed by re-conglomeration. Maedhros Mar 2014 #58

tell that to the crowd who'll say the US engineered a violent coup... and lurves them some putin... dionysus Mar 2014 #66

I wonder... nikto Mar 2014 #69

I agree it shouldn't be by force davidpdx Mar 2014 #74

I want diplomatic and economic sanctions alarimer Mar 2014 #83