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gollygee

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119. I'm not sure I understand

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 08:03 AM

Mar 2014

You think if the poll were:

Does racial discrimination exist in the US against non-whites?

Yes
No

That there would be more No votes than Yes? Or that there would be a higher percentage of no votes than the current poll?

That doesn't make sense to me at all. That seems even less controversial and I suspect it would be close to 100% for yes.

Or is that what you mean? That almost everyone would vote yes in that case?

If that's what you mean, then that wasn't what I was wondering about. I was specifically wondering whether people agree that white privilege is a real thing. Someone said that only a tiny percentage of Democrats agree it's a real thing, and only a minority of DUers think it's a real thing. That wasn't my impression at all, but it's often really hard to tell without a poll.

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Poll re white privilege [View all] gollygee Feb 2014 OP

Of course it's a real thing. HappyMe Feb 2014 #1

I read in a thread gollygee Feb 2014 #3

I only posted in a couple of those threads. HappyMe Feb 2014 #4

most of those threads are filled with people who already agree it exists. 1awake Feb 2014 #17

I was inspired by this gollygee Feb 2014 #19

People get hung up on the one word thinking it means what it doesnt. 1awake Feb 2014 #27

Yes, people tend to think "privilege" means the privileged group has something positive MH1 Mar 2014 #87

A "privilege" that still allows for one to be treated horribly for a variety of other reasons Chathamization Mar 2014 #92

2 of those voting "no": 1 has zero posts at DU, another has 1 post at DU CreekDog Mar 2014 #131

Crawling out from under the bridge, I guess. HappyMe Mar 2014 #132

So what? Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #137

It's an interesting debate el_bryanto Feb 2014 #2

Of course, it's real. Iggo Feb 2014 #5

I reject framing the issue as a matter of privilege badtoworse Feb 2014 #6

...even when it clearly is. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #7

Nope. Not being discriminated against is a right, not a privilege. badtoworse Feb 2014 #9

Nope. It's a privilege as it stands in society today. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #10

Definition of privilege from Merriam Webster badtoworse Feb 2014 #13

Merriam's definition fits white privilege to a T. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #15

Your neighbors' sons are experiencing injustice badtoworse Feb 2014 #18

No, my son is experiencing the many benefits of white privilege. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #22

What makes you think I'm uncomfortable? badtoworse Feb 2014 #25

Assuming you are white ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #53

That is not in question. The issue is why frame it in an intellectually dishonest way. badtoworse Feb 2014 #56

Pretty much this. nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #66

I guess were one stands on this issue depends on where one sits. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #90

Are you one of those people who argue you can't be a homophobe because you are not "afraid" of gays? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #48

The short answer is no. badtoworse Feb 2014 #49

Me too. In fact, I liked what you pointed out earlier: AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #65

you prefer to think you ran to 1st base. CreekDog Mar 2014 #127

You don't know a damn thing about me or how I got to where I am now. badtoworse Mar 2014 #133

that's irrelevant CreekDog Mar 2014 #134

I don't consider that privilege badtoworse Mar 2014 #136

Then again, CreekDog is a user who apparently believes..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #139

He's not a poster I'd spend much time with badtoworse Mar 2014 #140

are you sure you are allowed to post about this? i think not. i have seen you seabeyond Feb 2014 #8

It looks like she's in charge of it, so... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #11

well, geez screaming, someones gotta be. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #12

+1 bravenak Feb 2014 #28

Yeah. This here being downtown and all. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #31

Me too! We better run Bravenak. JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #120

I passed because I think the OP is just trying to stir up trouble with polls like this. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #14

The OP is not trying to "stir up trouble." ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #16

What IS the trouble? hfojvt Feb 2014 #20

In your opinion no. In my opinion yes. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #24

Rosa Parks....she was just stirring up trouble!!! Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #47

I call BS on the comparison. The OP isn't putting anything on the line. yellowcanine Mar 2014 #122

I'm not putting anything on the line gollygee Mar 2014 #130

"White privilege" is too elusive a concept for a good poll. yellowcanine Mar 2014 #135

Is there something special about the OP's author that I should know? MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #62

An aside: I love the disclaimer on the poll. gollygee Feb 2014 #21

It is a real thing. That is until you get old............... wandy Feb 2014 #23

Everyone agrees that minorities face discrimination LittleBlue Feb 2014 #26

that is a bit superficial. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #33

If word choice is superficial LittleBlue Feb 2014 #36

I'd love to see your question answered. badtoworse Feb 2014 #37

your analysis is superficial. Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #39

You cite what amounts to a blog LittleBlue Feb 2014 #42

OK, so no dialog here. You will reject the word used and pretend that Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #44

I asked two questions of you LittleBlue Feb 2014 #45

You're dodging the question badtoworse Feb 2014 #43

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #54

I confess I do not understand your objection to the term. yewberry Mar 2014 #73

There are people who use the example that some blacks have it way better than a good portion cui bono Mar 2014 #95

Very true. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #106

I went to a segregated schools, rode in white only bus seating, drank from white CTyankee Feb 2014 #29

Really? I drank from the older, funky "colored" fountain when nobody was looking Warpy Feb 2014 #30

I was always terrified that I would get in trouble... CTyankee Feb 2014 #35

You should ask the same questions re male and straight Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #32

Fascinating result, so far. kwassa Feb 2014 #34

For some reasons they don't like to declare themselves in polls BainsBane Feb 2014 #38

There are some significant holdouts. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #40

yes, the most vocal opponents have not participated in the poll. kwassa Feb 2014 #46

White Privilege is the new Original Sin. n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #41

Ha! funny. (nt) Inkfreak Feb 2014 #50

Jesus Christ... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #57

No I'm just Chris. Jesus Christ minus the Jesus, and the t. Yeah, pretty much just Chris. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #59

They're exactly alike as long as you don't know what it means to have white privilege. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #60

You are right, and I was wrong. I apologize. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2014 #64

"What you're describing is the mirror image of Original Sin." AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #67

False equivalency in the extreme LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #86

climate change denier doesn't think racism hurts minorities and helps whites CreekDog Mar 2014 #128

Are you honestly fucking serious about this shit? Really? AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #138

Then you probably don't understand original sin or mirrors. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #69

Yada yada yada yada yada yada yada Ad nauseam... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #80

Passing as white and being white are the same thing. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #83

Wow. Empathy. Heard of it? Buy some maybe? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #85

Then again you may simply be choosing to be racially divisive pipoman Mar 2014 #98

White privilege isn't a new term. You know that, right? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #99

I'm sure it has been used by the racially divisive for a long time. pipoman Mar 2014 #102

If you wish to accuse me of something, at least have the courage to say it directly. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #104

I'll take that as, pipoman Mar 2014 #105

What you have taken is not what I've said nor what I believe. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #108

"why do you need to refer to racial discrimination as 'white privilege'?" Number23 Mar 2014 #109

Can't answer a question with a question. . pipoman Mar 2014 #110

lol No, you WON'T answer. Instead you'll continue with these tired little games Number23 Mar 2014 #112

Someone who quoted a question without answering pipoman Mar 2014 #114

Keep playing. Again, fooling no one. Number23 Mar 2014 #115

Lol pipoman Mar 2014 #116

of course it's real Skittles Feb 2014 #51

as one, of course. There is a wealth privilege as well. There is a bully privilege and a male Kip Humphrey Feb 2014 #52

Hooray for unnecessary categorical hierarchies. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #61

.... handmade34 Feb 2014 #55

See, this is why there's so much resistance to the term. WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #121

Personally I agree it exists now I do think there are degrees to it Arcanetrance Feb 2014 #58

White privilege Check list ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #63

Yet people will keep insisting they have no significant advantage over anyone else. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #68

Yes. A whole 7%. Bonobo Mar 2014 #70

Who's denying degrees of whiteness? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #71

I didn't say "denying" it GC, just that it was being ignored Bonobo Mar 2014 #74

We can talk about it if you want. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #75

I'd like to, especially if it wouldn't label me as a "white privilege denier" Bonobo Mar 2014 #76

As a person of Jewish ancestry, who displays stereotypical physical traits, I agree. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #77

Well said and I completely agree. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #78

Yes, so one could ask, as others have, what should be done with such information? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #79

excellent post! kwassa Mar 2014 #91

The people who have been arguing the issue haven't even responded to the poll BainsBane Mar 2014 #81

I can think of a few reasons. Bonobo Mar 2014 #82

In my case I believe that poll is flawed pipoman Mar 2014 #113

I'm not sure I understand gollygee Mar 2014 #119

51. whistler162 Mar 2014 #101

The fact that it's a real thing misses the point lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #72

Agree. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #84

All you have to do is turn on Faux Newz rbrnmw Mar 2014 #88

Funny LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #89

That is what inspired this gollygee Mar 2014 #93

Ahhhh LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #94

Thanks so much for this poll and for your posts on the matter Number23 Mar 2014 #97

Thanks! gollygee Mar 2014 #118

The academic concept is valid. WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #96

It is a racially divisive term pipoman Mar 2014 #103

Lucky enough to be born in the west is by far my biggest privilege. KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #100

Scary: that this question has to be asked. Scarier: The (currently) 8% saying they don't buy it. moriah Mar 2014 #107

It's refreshing to see these numbers in the poll Quixote1818 Mar 2014 #111

"I don't buy it" is picking up steam. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author MrScorpio Mar 2014 #123

It's a misleading term used to refer to a real thing. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #124

The issue is gollygee Mar 2014 #125

what a surprise, mostly white, males answering "no" CreekDog Mar 2014 #126

this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #129