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105. the democratic party is the OPPONENT of the left.

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Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:00 AM

Mar 2014

they would rather lose elections than support progressives.

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The Left hasn't "surrendered", but HAS taken many "Beat Downs" from the Party Power Brokers. [View all] bvar22 Mar 2014 OP

The Left is constantly being bombarded by authoritarian moles. Rex Mar 2014 #1

Even making a mockery of terms like "Underground..." villager Mar 2014 #51

I don't know, the name seems apt when you think in terms bobduca Mar 2014 #106

#1. 2010 was wave election for Repukes. #2 except Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #2

Oh? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #5

Thank you! +++++1,000,000 loudsue Mar 2014 #7

You have no idea what probability means, apparently and Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8

National probablity was irrelevant in that case. Halter outpolled Lincoln and the Republican among merrily Mar 2014 #76

Then why didn't Haltercwin if he was out polling everyone? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #77

Because the Party stepped in. Didn't you read the OP? merrily Mar 2014 #79

With an Obama endorsement? I thought he was kryptonite Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #82

Ask Bvar. Bvar was in Arkansas. Were you? merrily Mar 2014 #84

PS When was Bubba Clinton kryptonite in Arkansas? merrily Mar 2014 #85

And see also, Reply 38. merrily Mar 2014 #80

You tell 'em! If you're so in tune Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #10

+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #28

"The Left has always been correct." True. And there is a good reason for this : GoneFishin Mar 2014 #50

Nailed it. merrily Mar 2014 #78

Maybe but if that is the strategy then you'd keep up the fight in the general. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #9

Did you miss the part where NO poll showed Lincoln winning in the General, bvar22 Mar 2014 #12

Post #1 Rex Mar 2014 #17

Don't go disturbing the authoritarians with facts. They don't like it because the facts are against Vincardog Mar 2014 #29

Yeah, that election was a total disaster Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #63

+10 n/t whathehell Mar 2014 #104

Wrong, we KNOW what happened in 2010, and we know what the excuses are, we are more than sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #23

this is what really happened questionseverything Mar 2014 #38

Thank You. bvar22 Mar 2014 #40

the system we have is so muddied questionseverything Mar 2014 #43

The OP expressly states that Halter was polling ahead of both Lincoln and the Republican. merrily Mar 2014 #73

No they shouldn't butt out of primaries. That's ridiculous Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #74

No, it's ridiculous that they butt in. Voters should decide. merrily Mar 2014 #75

There always seems to be an excuse for the DEmocratic Party machine to support rhett o rick Mar 2014 #120

I no longer expect the Democratic Party to advance liberal causes 1000words Mar 2014 #3

Democrats get too much credit simply for being just a hair to the left of Dick Cheney. Skeeter Barnes Mar 2014 #24

If voters don't hold them accountable, even the hair will disappear. merrily Mar 2014 #81

No shit jsr Mar 2014 #113

And let's not forget alsame Mar 2014 #4

The evidence is plentiful. 1000words Mar 2014 #6

And they pepper their enablers on sites like DU and DailyKos. loudsue Mar 2014 #11

Thats sure the truth arikara Mar 2014 #122

Meek in Florida, Laffey in Rhode Island (though Chafee was probably more liberal), merrily Mar 2014 #83

I've seen it said that they'd rather keep control of the party and lose elections starroute Mar 2014 #13

+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #20

+1 Absolutely correct. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #26

sadly, this is so justabob Mar 2014 #45

And there it is in a nutshell Scootaloo Mar 2014 #54

That is undoubtedly so. merrily Mar 2014 #87

Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, and Kucinich MisterP Mar 2014 #14

There's no "probably" about it arikara Mar 2014 #118

WbY?...the answer is money zeemike Mar 2014 #15

K&R pa28 Mar 2014 #16

Kick! Efilroft Sul Mar 2014 #18

The White House gained... an ally in its true agenda, MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #19

Elizabeth Warren is fundraising for Mark Pryor ProSense Mar 2014 #21

Maybe because they learned their lesson in 2010?....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2014 #35

When your own party dumps you Aerows Mar 2014 #68

Most people were not even aware of Lincoln's reconciliation vote. merrily Mar 2014 #88

And you can expect no better treatment from Hillary than you got from Obama/Bill Clinton! Divernan Mar 2014 #22

You need to help your friends. merrily Mar 2014 #98

Recommended 1000X and kicked too. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #25

Oh, the irony. ProSense Mar 2014 #30

Yes, the irony has been entirely lost on you. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #33

C'mon, you don't really think that's the OP's point, do you? Scuba Mar 2014 #42

UNREC brooklynite Mar 2014 #27

lol @ "unrec" 1000words Mar 2014 #31

Bill Halter would have won. Some Democrats are too far right even in red states. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #32

Didn't bother to read the OP? bvar22 Mar 2014 #41

I know and I don't care... brooklynite Mar 2014 #46

LOL. bvar22 Mar 2014 #47

Please enjoy your despair... brooklynite Mar 2014 #49

Because your way's worked out so well for America MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #56

The Federal Govt recognizes marriage equality, we have a comprehensive health insurance program... brooklynite Mar 2014 #58

The federal government recognized marriage equality well after most Americans did. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #59

In some ways it's worse than GWB. cui bono Mar 2014 #69

You know that GWB had negotiated the withdrawal date re Iraq in 2008 and had wound down in merrily Mar 2014 #96

A Liberal Democrat did just fine Aerows Mar 2014 #71

so, NYC = Arkansas? brooklynite Mar 2014 #110

Goodness no Aerows Mar 2014 #119

Since you didn't bother to answer my Dean question... brooklynite Mar 2014 #108

Why are we just supposed to support incumbents, absent corruption? cui bono Mar 2014 #67

If a left-leaning Democrat wins, it's a fluke Aerows Mar 2014 #72

Let's put our cards on the table, shall we? brooklynite Mar 2014 #109

The Party may have to choose one day between votes and meddling in primaries. merrily Mar 2014 #94

K&R for principles instead of over-valued pragmatism. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #34

Think THAT'S bad? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #36

The DC Beat Down: Sit down, shut up, and vote for us, cuz the GOP is WORSE!!! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #37

Same in Colorado Autumn Mar 2014 #39

The same happened in Pennsylvania and Florida too. bvar22 Mar 2014 #44

Did you see this tonight bvar22? madfloridian Mar 2014 #65

Yep. "Not as bad" got beat again, but we have to keep running "Not as bad" because... Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #48

To the Greatest Page. This is such an important OP. woo me with science Mar 2014 #52

"Important" in a retrospective sort of way? ProSense Mar 2014 #55

Recommend..thanks bvar. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #53

+1,000,000. THANK YOU bvar. bbgrunt Mar 2014 #57

I would expect as much from an admin that says things out loud like liberals are... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #60

slow poutrage day? this again? dionysus Mar 2014 #61

Slow rational thought day? This again? cui bono Mar 2014 #70

A reply typical Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #114

The president wanted a republican congress to enact far right agenda Doctor_J Mar 2014 #62

Yes. Because that makes rational sense. FDR's Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #86

Obama is no FDR. To the extent that FDR had a downfall, it was merrily Mar 2014 #89

Well, Obama also never had FDR's majorities in both houses like Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #91

I knew what the point of your prior post was. I repeat: Obama is no FDR. merrily Mar 2014 #92

Some of the dismantling was also done by the Supreme Court Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #93

Totally different issue--and FDR managed to overcome even that, instead of merrily Mar 2014 #95

btw, Democratic controlled Congresses also refused to continue funding of some of the New Deal merrily Mar 2014 #100

Not surprising at all. Chathamization Mar 2014 #64

It happens at the state legislature level as well. eridani Mar 2014 #66

Local, too, at least in locales with significant population. merrily Mar 2014 #90

^^+1000^^ n/t eridani Mar 2014 #99

I Only Regret That I Have But One Rec to Give This Thread progressoid Mar 2014 #97

I assume you supported and voted for Lincoln after the primary. gulliver Mar 2014 #101

My job is to vote for whom I think would be the best representative of the people. Maedhros Mar 2014 #121

Shit, they dropped that female incumbent as no chance as soon as they got her though TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #123

The system doesn't want their recipe tampered with. nt valerief Mar 2014 #102

''To get along, go along.'' -- Speaker Sam Rayburn Octafish Mar 2014 #103

the democratic party is the OPPONENT of the left. tomp Mar 2014 #105

Rahm Emanual aka: Dem Leadership fredamae Mar 2014 #107

Thanks for posting this again, bvar22! Kermitt Gribble Mar 2014 #111

Excellent! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #112

DURec leftstreet Mar 2014 #115

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #116

We don't have a republic. sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #117

K&R Jamastiene Mar 2014 #124

kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #125

Amen colsohlibgal Mar 2014 #126

kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #127

How amazingly relevant to the dust up with third way Hill Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #128

Think our new party ever wanted universal health care? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #129