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Bluenorthwest

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34. Not sure if you missed this, but LGBT Americans voted for Obama in huge numbers while

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 10:19 AM

Mar 2014

he paraded around ranting about Sanctity with Rick Warren. Being a Democrat will very often involve voting for a person who is proclaiming something I disagree with. Sometimes the bargain is worth striking, in Obama's case on gay issues it has turned out very well. Obama is a rare sort of politician, however.
So sure, voting for someone who has a basic disagreement can be part of the routine however I fully take issue with the conclusion that this means we have to run conservative types in some places because 'we know only they can win'. That theory stopped working in 2010, when so many of them lost. 'The only sort of candidate who can win is the sort that lost the last few times' is not something I can agree with. Taking no risk leads to making no gains.

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Howard Dean on supporting Dems "who may disagree with us on a fundamental issue" [View all] ProSense Mar 2014 OP

Thank you, ProSense! Cha Mar 2014 #1

You're welcome ProSense Mar 2014 #2

I am a fierce liberal. longship Mar 2014 #3

it wasn't even a trade off karynnj Mar 2014 #43

That would be my reading of it, too. nt longship Mar 2014 #44

It's real simple, we need to control Congress and the White House... ellisonz Mar 2014 #4

If we can regain a majority on the Supreme Court DFW Mar 2014 #24

If you want the votes of the left, run left wing candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #5

Only problem is, how many votes will they get from the larger public? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #7

Bernie's positions are mainstream centrist. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #13

I agree that that's the reality. But what about the *perception*? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #16

Yes, we are being propagandized 24/7-365 by the right wing misinformation machine. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #18

What nonsense. I mean ProSense Mar 2014 #30

Just look at that dog! And such a sweet lady too. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #38

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #39

Until a "left wing" candidate challenges Wendy Davis ProSense Mar 2014 #9

Liberal Dems are outnumbered by moderate and Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #10

So your pro right wing? Phlem Mar 2014 #11

What are you talking about? The discussion I was having was Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #12

+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #15

Link? Enthusiast Mar 2014 #14

I'm on my iPhone and search is difficult Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #17

Okay. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #19

False, the Progressive Caucus is the largest in Congress. joshcryer Mar 2014 #23

That's true. In fact, the Progressive Caucus has grown larger over time. ProSense Mar 2014 #26

Sorry, Doc, but I'll never cross that pro choice line Warpy Mar 2014 #6

+1 nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #8

How do you feel about abandoning labor? Enthusiast Mar 2014 #20

That is a very good question dsc Mar 2014 #29

Only when labor doesn't give a shit Warpy Mar 2014 #42

This isn't exactly what that poster was asking dsc Mar 2014 #45

Have you ever seen a candidate who was pro choice Warpy Mar 2014 #46

Alan Simpson dsc Mar 2014 #47

Check out his voting record prior to the Cat Food Commission Warpy Mar 2014 #48

that is absurd dsc Mar 2014 #49

Supporting labor is not 100% supporting unions Warpy Mar 2014 #50

yes his vote against banning replacement workers was wonderful for labor dsc Mar 2014 #52

BTW here are his ratings from all groups dsc Mar 2014 #53

My civil rights trump all that stuff. Warpy Mar 2014 #40

PA Sen. Bob Casey is "pro-life" Freddie Mar 2014 #22

He's a perfect example. ProSense Mar 2014 #27

Same with VA's Tim Kaine. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #32

If they promise not to insert their church dogma into civil law Warpy Mar 2014 #51

+1 Squinch Mar 2014 #41

I reject a 50 state strategy that produces a 1980s Republicanized Democratic Party. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #21

Howard Dean is not the keeper of my conscience. winter is coming Mar 2014 #25

I really wish dems wouldn't use the term "pro life". sufrommich Mar 2014 #28

K&R. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #31

"Professionals" with "long losing streaks" NEVER see their influence diminish, tblue37 Mar 2014 #33

Not sure if you missed this, but LGBT Americans voted for Obama in huge numbers while Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #34

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #35

Ah, so this is just some more Meta style infighting? I have no idea who supports the one Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #36

There is nothing "meta" about asking a question about support for one person or another. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #37