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freshwest

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53. Nope. Why not clear their names by doing so? Get that black female vote? Who's kidding who?

Sun Mar 2, 2014, 06:55 PM

Mar 2014

Yes, they really are racists and they really are misogynists and they really, really don't believe in freedom and justice for all. What the hell good are they?

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Florida State Attorney Corey Seeks 60-Year Sentence for Marissa Alexander [View all] RandySF Mar 2014 OP

This is absolutely obscene. A WARNING shot for god's sake! And meanwhile, Zimmerman walks. Demoiselle Mar 2014 #1

This is racist Corey telling a black person to not ever challenge me brush Mar 2014 #49

If she loses, this is one case that Obama should pardon immediately. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #138

President Obama has no power to pardon her, smokey775 Mar 2014 #140

They were not warning shots. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #67

was she charged... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #79

I am assuming nothing. The evidence speaks for itself. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #91

the evidence shows she did not kill him! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #93

Who is claiming that she did kill him? ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #94

no one... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #95

To do so is illegal and illogical. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #97

your opinion then... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #98

Just stating the facts. You're welcome. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #99

someone once said.... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #100

What was your point in presenting the "facts". Are you trying to justify her rhett o rick Mar 2014 #107

Just clarifying the misconceptions. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #121

Isn't that an opinion? brush Mar 2014 #145

It would depend on how good a shot she was, which we don't know. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #149

Un-fricking-believable Nictuku Mar 2014 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #3

You're only allowed to stand your ground if you're white jmowreader Mar 2014 #5

+1 RandySF Mar 2014 #6

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Maybe it's that warning shots indicate she was not significantly "in fear..." immoderate Mar 2014 #9

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The shots barely missed his head. hack89 Mar 2014 #22

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She had several opportunities to escape hack89 Mar 2014 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #30

Who knows. Bad legal advice perhaps. Nt hack89 Mar 2014 #32

Currently in Florida you can run into problems if you even display your legally concealed ... spin Mar 2014 #102

Not true, I'm a white guy that stood his ground, see what happened to me. Evidence is here therehegoes Mar 2014 #33

Not all white guys who stand their ground get acquitted, that's true jmowreader Mar 2014 #39

It works pretty well for black shooters too. hack89 Mar 2014 #111

You're only allowed to stand your ground if you're white...and male. Merlot Mar 2014 #34

And male. n/t ReRe Mar 2014 #44

BS 840high Mar 2014 #62

It wasn't self defense hack89 Mar 2014 #17

Facts have no place in this discussion. JJChambers Mar 2014 #20

This is the state that couldn't find that guy guilty of murder MiniMe Mar 2014 #28

And he is going to prison for a long time hack89 Mar 2014 #31

They may or may not retry him on the murder charge. MiniMe Mar 2014 #37

I have no idea. It was clear to me that he was guilty as hell. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #43

they are re-trying him on the murder charge TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #109

Punishment needs to fit the crime. Merlot Mar 2014 #35

Agree - that is why the state initially offered a three year plea deal hack89 Mar 2014 #36

Do you have a cite for this info? Thanks. n/t Stonepounder Mar 2014 #47

It is from court documents hack89 Mar 2014 #48

ty 840high Mar 2014 #66

You seem to want her convicted. brush Mar 2014 #54

I wish she had taken the three year plea deal hack89 Mar 2014 #59

No, warning shots are illegal. If you admit that you intended to warn a person away.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #73

Craziness. You're better off shooting someone then. Utter craziness in Florida. nt brush Mar 2014 #105

Not just Florida. Warning shots are a hollywood myth. They'll get your ass in jail everywhere. n/t X_Digger Mar 2014 #112

"It's so obvious that she only wanted to scare him" COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #148

And what facts are you using . . . brush Mar 2014 #152

Trained police officers in shoot outs tend to COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #155

What you posted is still not fact brush Mar 2014 #157

Not fact because you don't want to COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #166

Could she really have escaped if he was defying a Restraining Order? The Wielding Truth Mar 2014 #68

She had not lived in that house for months - she went to see him. hack89 Mar 2014 #74

This case is a mess. Still 20 years seems unjust when he was so abusive to her for years. The Wielding Truth Mar 2014 #76

Mandatory minimum sentences are fucked up and should be abolished. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #77

From reading about the case, I believe SYG didn't apply because she left then returned w/ the gun. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #58

This stopped making sense a while ago. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #4

Angela Corey: what a disgrace cpwm17 Mar 2014 #7

She just doesn't give up, does she? LisaL Mar 2014 #10

I'm assuming the NRA is rushing to her defense as a stand your ground case, right? bluestateguy Mar 2014 #11

Yep, the gun crowd is conspicuously silent on this one. Hoyt Mar 2014 #15

Ain't it though? Defending the homestead doesn't count if you're black. Corey is despicable! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #50

She wasn't "defending the homestead." NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #52

None of which is a problem under FL SYG law. LisaL Mar 2014 #56

Can you be in someone else's home... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #57

I'm not sure if I count as part of the gun crowd. JoeyT Mar 2014 #118

Why - it was not self defense. hack89 Mar 2014 #18

what bugs me about your post Trajan Mar 2014 #40

I have said more than once that mandatory minimum sentences are an abomination hack89 Mar 2014 #45

What bugs me about your post is the lies upon lies joeglow3 Mar 2014 #115

But you don't know what was done or said in the room when she came back brush Mar 2014 #146

Read the court documents hack89 Mar 2014 #150

Sometimes abuse victims reach their limit . . . brush Mar 2014 #151

She had ample opportunities to escape plus she could have simply stayed away from him. hack89 Mar 2014 #153

Okay, I see where you're coming from brush Mar 2014 #158

No. I think the sentence is unjust hack89 Mar 2014 #160

The defendant is clearly the wrong color CanonRay Mar 2014 #12

Yes, we know that black women, (and men), should not handle guns and Beachwood Mar 2014 #14

Angela Corey wants it known in case there was any doubt.. Cha Mar 2014 #13

Likely run for Governor next, huh? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #80

wow...that's a gut-punch.. stillcool Mar 2014 #16

I absolutely despise guns etherealtruth Mar 2014 #21

Textbook prosecutorial misconduct and overreach n/t brentspeak Mar 2014 #23

It's her job. She already got a 60 year sentence for her flvegan Mar 2014 #24

so is the nra brettdale Mar 2014 #26

If the comments of known Gungeonites in DU are any indication Trajan Mar 2014 #42

She used her gun illegally Jenoch Mar 2014 #84

Nope. Why not clear their names by doing so? Get that black female vote? Who's kidding who? freshwest Mar 2014 #53

Jesus fucking Christ...when do we get rid of Angela Corey? Chan790 Mar 2014 #29

Angela Corey is a menace to the justice system blackspade Mar 2014 #38

Does stand your ground expressly forbid warning shots? Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #41

Warning shots are illegal in most jurisdictions. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #69

As i responded to a post above, there are Rhodes who might fear for their lives Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #82

Warning shots are illegal, SYG or no. X_Digger Mar 2014 #75

You know, there are those who might feel in iminiment danger Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #81

Then they shouldn't use lethal force. X_Digger Mar 2014 #83

Because those who are conned, or choose, to buy weapons Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #86

States have a vested interest in regulating the discharge of firearms. If you can't see that.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #87

Well, I am stupid. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #89

"not during the discharging of them" ?!? Are you fucking serious? X_Digger Mar 2014 #90

I am serious. Once the gun has left the shop, Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #92

Let me remind you what you said.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #96

I am tired of your abusive tone. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #106

Stop saying silly things, and I'll stop calling you on them. X_Digger Mar 2014 #114

Smoke some reefer and chill out. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #119

I'm perfectly chill. I also don't advocate using deadly force for less than deadly threats. X_Digger Mar 2014 #120

What if... druidity33 Mar 2014 #133

Who's to say that a rock in the dirt won't cause a ricochet? X_Digger Mar 2014 #141

A warning shot doesn't always demonstrate that you don't think the threat is imminent. Vattel Mar 2014 #101

"might be able to address an imminent threat" means that it isn't truly imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #103

That is just plainly incorrect. Vattel Mar 2014 #110

If you think that you can cause the person to not attack you, attack isn't imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #113

you realize, of course, that the law is stupid Vattel Mar 2014 #123

By definition, it certainly does make the attack not imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #125

I am not sure you know what the word "imminent" means. Vattel Mar 2014 #131

imminent adjective 1. about to happen. -- if it might not be 'about to happen', it isn't imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #132

I would face a reckless discharge charge only if the prosecutor were an idiot. Vattel Mar 2014 #135

You mean cases like Marissa Alexander? Where she admits she wasn't being attacked, and the kids.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #137

Maybe not being attack but maybe she felt threaten brush Mar 2014 #147

That doesn't rise to the level of justifying shooting someone. X_Digger Mar 2014 #161

Why else would you warn them then? brush Mar 2014 #162

Apparently, to win an argument, in this case. X_Digger Mar 2014 #163

exactly. her warning shots were clearly unjustified Vattel Mar 2014 #164

Then I arrest you for attempted murder. You can use lethal force to meet a lethal attack/attempt. msanthrope Mar 2014 #116

If someone is coming at me with a knife after saying "Prepare to meet your maker" Vattel Mar 2014 #122

As far as I know there is no such thing as a "warning shot" in law. JVS Mar 2014 #156

It looks like Florida will "lead" the way, I guess. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #159

It was a warning shot in HIS house... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #46

Didn't she live there too? brush Mar 2014 #63

She had a restraining order against him... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #71

No, she hadn't lived there in months. smokey775 Mar 2014 #88

Talk about utter prejudiced nonsense! Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #51

She is free right now. LisaL Mar 2014 #55

There's free, and then there's free Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #60

What about her behavior was acceptable and not criminal? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #117

share with others ... napkinz Mar 2014 #61

impeach mtasselin Mar 2014 #64

Question azureblue Mar 2014 #65

You can thank the brady bunch for the mandatory minimum (for crimes with guns). X_Digger Mar 2014 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #72

Surely 60 years would seem right to no one but right-wing fuc*tards indepat Mar 2014 #78

This confirms my suspicions about Corey ecstatic Mar 2014 #85

Certainly she is a racist. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #104

Her $h!t-eating grin... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #130

Four cowardly jurists and two with integrity. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #108

Can they start a recall of this guy? Definitely an abuse of power by someone who doesn't sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #124

Angela Cory is a woman, not a guy. smokey775 Mar 2014 #139

I wouldn't know, I am not familiar with every prosecutor in the country, hard to keep up with sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #142

They're elected to office so I would imagine they could be. smokey775 Mar 2014 #143

Thank you ... n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #144

My wife is completely sick about this whole situation. The woman should have NEVER been convicted diabeticman Mar 2014 #126

She used a hangun illegally. Jenoch Mar 2014 #127

She was standing her ground ONLY she gave her aggressor a warning. Had she blown her head off she diabeticman Mar 2014 #128

She violated a restraining order. Jenoch Mar 2014 #129

And while she was out on bail for the warning shots madville Mar 2014 #134

Do you know if the Florida legislature is going Jenoch Mar 2014 #136

Corey needs to GO! MoonRiver Mar 2014 #154

If ONLY she put this much effort in the Zimmerman case... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #165