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Cheese4TheRat

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108. Four cowardly jurists and two with integrity.

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:21 AM

Mar 2014

I will be sure to include moronic and ignorant in all posts to, you know, toughen up. As for the language barriar, it's probably because I'm ignorant and the tough guy poster is tough.

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Florida State Attorney Corey Seeks 60-Year Sentence for Marissa Alexander [View all] RandySF Mar 2014 OP

This is absolutely obscene. A WARNING shot for god's sake! And meanwhile, Zimmerman walks. Demoiselle Mar 2014 #1

This is racist Corey telling a black person to not ever challenge me brush Mar 2014 #49

If she loses, this is one case that Obama should pardon immediately. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #138

President Obama has no power to pardon her, smokey775 Mar 2014 #140

They were not warning shots. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #67

was she charged... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #79

I am assuming nothing. The evidence speaks for itself. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #91

the evidence shows she did not kill him! n/t wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #93

Who is claiming that she did kill him? ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #94

no one... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #95

To do so is illegal and illogical. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #97

your opinion then... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #98

Just stating the facts. You're welcome. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #99

someone once said.... wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #100

What was your point in presenting the "facts". Are you trying to justify her rhett o rick Mar 2014 #107

Just clarifying the misconceptions. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #121

Isn't that an opinion? brush Mar 2014 #145

It would depend on how good a shot she was, which we don't know. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #149

Un-fricking-believable Nictuku Mar 2014 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #3

You're only allowed to stand your ground if you're white jmowreader Mar 2014 #5

+1 RandySF Mar 2014 #6

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #8

Maybe it's that warning shots indicate she was not significantly "in fear..." immoderate Mar 2014 #9

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The shots barely missed his head. hack89 Mar 2014 #22

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She had several opportunities to escape hack89 Mar 2014 #27

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Who knows. Bad legal advice perhaps. Nt hack89 Mar 2014 #32

Currently in Florida you can run into problems if you even display your legally concealed ... spin Mar 2014 #102

Not true, I'm a white guy that stood his ground, see what happened to me. Evidence is here therehegoes Mar 2014 #33

Not all white guys who stand their ground get acquitted, that's true jmowreader Mar 2014 #39

It works pretty well for black shooters too. hack89 Mar 2014 #111

You're only allowed to stand your ground if you're white...and male. Merlot Mar 2014 #34

And male. n/t ReRe Mar 2014 #44

BS 840high Mar 2014 #62

It wasn't self defense hack89 Mar 2014 #17

Facts have no place in this discussion. JJChambers Mar 2014 #20

This is the state that couldn't find that guy guilty of murder MiniMe Mar 2014 #28

And he is going to prison for a long time hack89 Mar 2014 #31

They may or may not retry him on the murder charge. MiniMe Mar 2014 #37

I have no idea. It was clear to me that he was guilty as hell. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #43

they are re-trying him on the murder charge TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #109

Punishment needs to fit the crime. Merlot Mar 2014 #35

Agree - that is why the state initially offered a three year plea deal hack89 Mar 2014 #36

Do you have a cite for this info? Thanks. n/t Stonepounder Mar 2014 #47

It is from court documents hack89 Mar 2014 #48

ty 840high Mar 2014 #66

You seem to want her convicted. brush Mar 2014 #54

I wish she had taken the three year plea deal hack89 Mar 2014 #59

No, warning shots are illegal. If you admit that you intended to warn a person away.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #73

Craziness. You're better off shooting someone then. Utter craziness in Florida. nt brush Mar 2014 #105

Not just Florida. Warning shots are a hollywood myth. They'll get your ass in jail everywhere. n/t X_Digger Mar 2014 #112

"It's so obvious that she only wanted to scare him" COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #148

And what facts are you using . . . brush Mar 2014 #152

Trained police officers in shoot outs tend to COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #155

What you posted is still not fact brush Mar 2014 #157

Not fact because you don't want to COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #166

Could she really have escaped if he was defying a Restraining Order? The Wielding Truth Mar 2014 #68

She had not lived in that house for months - she went to see him. hack89 Mar 2014 #74

This case is a mess. Still 20 years seems unjust when he was so abusive to her for years. The Wielding Truth Mar 2014 #76

Mandatory minimum sentences are fucked up and should be abolished. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #77

From reading about the case, I believe SYG didn't apply because she left then returned w/ the gun. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #58

This stopped making sense a while ago. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #4

Angela Corey: what a disgrace cpwm17 Mar 2014 #7

She just doesn't give up, does she? LisaL Mar 2014 #10

I'm assuming the NRA is rushing to her defense as a stand your ground case, right? bluestateguy Mar 2014 #11

Yep, the gun crowd is conspicuously silent on this one. Hoyt Mar 2014 #15

Ain't it though? Defending the homestead doesn't count if you're black. Corey is despicable! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #50

She wasn't "defending the homestead." NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #52

None of which is a problem under FL SYG law. LisaL Mar 2014 #56

Can you be in someone else's home... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #57

I'm not sure if I count as part of the gun crowd. JoeyT Mar 2014 #118

Why - it was not self defense. hack89 Mar 2014 #18

what bugs me about your post Trajan Mar 2014 #40

I have said more than once that mandatory minimum sentences are an abomination hack89 Mar 2014 #45

What bugs me about your post is the lies upon lies joeglow3 Mar 2014 #115

But you don't know what was done or said in the room when she came back brush Mar 2014 #146

Read the court documents hack89 Mar 2014 #150

Sometimes abuse victims reach their limit . . . brush Mar 2014 #151

She had ample opportunities to escape plus she could have simply stayed away from him. hack89 Mar 2014 #153

Okay, I see where you're coming from brush Mar 2014 #158

No. I think the sentence is unjust hack89 Mar 2014 #160

The defendant is clearly the wrong color CanonRay Mar 2014 #12

Yes, we know that black women, (and men), should not handle guns and Beachwood Mar 2014 #14

Angela Corey wants it known in case there was any doubt.. Cha Mar 2014 #13

Likely run for Governor next, huh? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #80

wow...that's a gut-punch.. stillcool Mar 2014 #16

I absolutely despise guns etherealtruth Mar 2014 #21

Textbook prosecutorial misconduct and overreach n/t brentspeak Mar 2014 #23

It's her job. She already got a 60 year sentence for her flvegan Mar 2014 #24

so is the nra brettdale Mar 2014 #26

If the comments of known Gungeonites in DU are any indication Trajan Mar 2014 #42

She used her gun illegally Jenoch Mar 2014 #84

Nope. Why not clear their names by doing so? Get that black female vote? Who's kidding who? freshwest Mar 2014 #53

Jesus fucking Christ...when do we get rid of Angela Corey? Chan790 Mar 2014 #29

Angela Corey is a menace to the justice system blackspade Mar 2014 #38

Does stand your ground expressly forbid warning shots? Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #41

Warning shots are illegal in most jurisdictions. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #69

As i responded to a post above, there are Rhodes who might fear for their lives Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #82

Warning shots are illegal, SYG or no. X_Digger Mar 2014 #75

You know, there are those who might feel in iminiment danger Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #81

Then they shouldn't use lethal force. X_Digger Mar 2014 #83

Because those who are conned, or choose, to buy weapons Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #86

States have a vested interest in regulating the discharge of firearms. If you can't see that.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #87

Well, I am stupid. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #89

"not during the discharging of them" ?!? Are you fucking serious? X_Digger Mar 2014 #90

I am serious. Once the gun has left the shop, Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #92

Let me remind you what you said.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #96

I am tired of your abusive tone. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #106

Stop saying silly things, and I'll stop calling you on them. X_Digger Mar 2014 #114

Smoke some reefer and chill out. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #119

I'm perfectly chill. I also don't advocate using deadly force for less than deadly threats. X_Digger Mar 2014 #120

What if... druidity33 Mar 2014 #133

Who's to say that a rock in the dirt won't cause a ricochet? X_Digger Mar 2014 #141

A warning shot doesn't always demonstrate that you don't think the threat is imminent. Vattel Mar 2014 #101

"might be able to address an imminent threat" means that it isn't truly imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #103

That is just plainly incorrect. Vattel Mar 2014 #110

If you think that you can cause the person to not attack you, attack isn't imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #113

you realize, of course, that the law is stupid Vattel Mar 2014 #123

By definition, it certainly does make the attack not imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #125

I am not sure you know what the word "imminent" means. Vattel Mar 2014 #131

imminent adjective 1. about to happen. -- if it might not be 'about to happen', it isn't imminent. X_Digger Mar 2014 #132

I would face a reckless discharge charge only if the prosecutor were an idiot. Vattel Mar 2014 #135

You mean cases like Marissa Alexander? Where she admits she wasn't being attacked, and the kids.. X_Digger Mar 2014 #137

Maybe not being attack but maybe she felt threaten brush Mar 2014 #147

That doesn't rise to the level of justifying shooting someone. X_Digger Mar 2014 #161

Why else would you warn them then? brush Mar 2014 #162

Apparently, to win an argument, in this case. X_Digger Mar 2014 #163

exactly. her warning shots were clearly unjustified Vattel Mar 2014 #164

Then I arrest you for attempted murder. You can use lethal force to meet a lethal attack/attempt. msanthrope Mar 2014 #116

If someone is coming at me with a knife after saying "Prepare to meet your maker" Vattel Mar 2014 #122

As far as I know there is no such thing as a "warning shot" in law. JVS Mar 2014 #156

It looks like Florida will "lead" the way, I guess. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #159

It was a warning shot in HIS house... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #46

Didn't she live there too? brush Mar 2014 #63

She had a restraining order against him... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #71

No, she hadn't lived there in months. smokey775 Mar 2014 #88

Talk about utter prejudiced nonsense! Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #51

She is free right now. LisaL Mar 2014 #55

There's free, and then there's free Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #60

What about her behavior was acceptable and not criminal? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #117

share with others ... napkinz Mar 2014 #61

impeach mtasselin Mar 2014 #64

Question azureblue Mar 2014 #65

You can thank the brady bunch for the mandatory minimum (for crimes with guns). X_Digger Mar 2014 #70

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #72

Surely 60 years would seem right to no one but right-wing fuc*tards indepat Mar 2014 #78

This confirms my suspicions about Corey ecstatic Mar 2014 #85

Certainly she is a racist. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #104

Her $h!t-eating grin... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #130

Four cowardly jurists and two with integrity. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #108

Can they start a recall of this guy? Definitely an abuse of power by someone who doesn't sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #124

Angela Cory is a woman, not a guy. smokey775 Mar 2014 #139

I wouldn't know, I am not familiar with every prosecutor in the country, hard to keep up with sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #142

They're elected to office so I would imagine they could be. smokey775 Mar 2014 #143

Thank you ... n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #144

My wife is completely sick about this whole situation. The woman should have NEVER been convicted diabeticman Mar 2014 #126

She used a hangun illegally. Jenoch Mar 2014 #127

She was standing her ground ONLY she gave her aggressor a warning. Had she blown her head off she diabeticman Mar 2014 #128

She violated a restraining order. Jenoch Mar 2014 #129

And while she was out on bail for the warning shots madville Mar 2014 #134

Do you know if the Florida legislature is going Jenoch Mar 2014 #136

Corey needs to GO! MoonRiver Mar 2014 #154

If ONLY she put this much effort in the Zimmerman case... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #165