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In reply to the discussion: "We will not tolerate the suppression of 10 million ethnically the same as us across our borders" [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)4. Looks like Leonid Bershidsky agrees
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-02/in-ukraine-echoes-of-the-anschluss
A corollary to Godwins Law of Nazi Analogies states that once a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis is made in an online discussion, the thread ends and the person who mentioned Hitler automatically loses the argument. In some cases, however, the rule doesn't apply - such as when the behavior of other totalitarian regimes is discussed.
I never thought the day would come that I would say this, but it no longer applies to discussing my country, Russia. Heres a Nazi analogy.
It is not only the same people but above all a long communal history and culture which bind together the Reich and Austria, Adolf Hitler said in February, 1938.
On March 11, Austrian Nazis seized power in Vienna, and the following day, Josef Goebbels read this statement from Adolf Hitler on German and Austrian radio: The German Reich will not tolerate persecution of Germans in this region because they belong to our country or because they hold certain opinions. There must be peace and order. I have therefore decided to help the millions of Germans in Austria with the resources of the Reich. Since this morning, soldiers of the German Wehrmacht have marched over the German-Austrian borders. The new National Socialist government in Vienna has itself summoned panzer troops, infantry divisions, and SS legions on the ground and the German Luftwaffe in the blue sky. Our soldiers guarantee that the Austrian people will shortly be given the opportunity to determine their future themselves and thereby their fate with a plebiscite."
A corollary to Godwins Law of Nazi Analogies states that once a comparison to Hitler or the Nazis is made in an online discussion, the thread ends and the person who mentioned Hitler automatically loses the argument. In some cases, however, the rule doesn't apply - such as when the behavior of other totalitarian regimes is discussed.
I never thought the day would come that I would say this, but it no longer applies to discussing my country, Russia. Heres a Nazi analogy.
It is not only the same people but above all a long communal history and culture which bind together the Reich and Austria, Adolf Hitler said in February, 1938.
On March 11, Austrian Nazis seized power in Vienna, and the following day, Josef Goebbels read this statement from Adolf Hitler on German and Austrian radio: The German Reich will not tolerate persecution of Germans in this region because they belong to our country or because they hold certain opinions. There must be peace and order. I have therefore decided to help the millions of Germans in Austria with the resources of the Reich. Since this morning, soldiers of the German Wehrmacht have marched over the German-Austrian borders. The new National Socialist government in Vienna has itself summoned panzer troops, infantry divisions, and SS legions on the ground and the German Luftwaffe in the blue sky. Our soldiers guarantee that the Austrian people will shortly be given the opportunity to determine their future themselves and thereby their fate with a plebiscite."
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"We will not tolerate the suppression of 10 million ethnically the same as us across our borders" [View all]
stevenleser
Mar 2014
OP
I doubt Putin will invade nations where Russia has not had historical interests but
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2014
#27
There are neo-Nazis in every country including the US. You can post photos of them here too.
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#6
All the comparisons to Hitler (and so soon!), means the pro-war crowd is losing the audience.
reformist2
Mar 2014
#8
Who is pro-war? Not me. I am not only against a military response, I am against Russia's military
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#11
As I said, I am the anti-war person here and you are the war cheerleader. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#14
Well said. I think most liberals are against military agression and a military response to such
pampango
Mar 2014
#15
Nope, not losing it. A lot of folks are making that comparison now. Because it fits. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#12
*Chechnya need not apply to the above statement. We will suppress the fk out of you. /nm
Ohio4theWin
Mar 2014
#16
when the comparison comes from a former Russian President then it's not a warmonger
okaawhatever
Mar 2014
#26
Jeez, was just thinking this. Russia's doing its action overtly while we just do it economically
riderinthestorm
Mar 2014
#24
A lot of people are now comparing invasion of Ukraine to the Anschluss of Austria, because it fits
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#29
Yes, a lot are. But the similarities here are so strong, that can easily be ruled out. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#32
No, it's not. It's based on the nearly identical statements and actions of Hitler and Putin in these
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#37
I am openly arguing AGAINST war. That doesnt change the similarity of these events.
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#36
I'm making comparisons between the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Anschluss of Austria
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#39