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marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
22. And you look like...
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014
Oh never mind.

This info from Wikipedia is what I'd call "controversial"--I guess you wouldn't so I'm not going to go further than Wiki in response to your arrogant "knock it off" crapola.

Soy is controversial. For it to be used as an additive in foods at this point is questionable. And it's all GMO soy so that's a factor also. Controversial:

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Breast Cancer
A 2006 commentary reviewed the relationship with soy and breast cancer. They stated that soy may decrease the risk of breast cancer, but cautioned that the impact of isoflavones on breast tissue needs to be evaluated at the cellular level in women at high risk for breast cancer.[131] A high consumption of omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids, which are found in most types of vegetable oil including soybean oil, may increase the likelihood that postmenopausal women will develop breast cancer.[132] Another analysis suggests an inverse association between total polyunsaturated fatty acids and breast cancer risk.[133] A 2011 analysis of the literature said: "Our study suggests soy isoflavones intake is associated with a significant reduced risk of breast cancer incidence in Asian populations, but not in Western populations."[134]

In a recent (August 2011) trial the daily administration of tablets containing 200 mg of soy isoflavones for 2 years did not prevent bone loss or menopausal symptoms.[135][136]

Brain

Though there is some evidence that estrogen can help protect and repair the brain after injury in rats,[141] there is also evidence that phytoestrogens may be harmful for the recovery of rats in other situations[142] that have sustained brain injury.

Similarly, epidemiological evidence of humans eating soya products is currently divided: a study of Japanese men between 1965 and 1999 demonstrated a positive correlation between brain atrophy and consumption of tofu meals,[143] and a study on elderly Indonesian men and women found that high tofu intake was associated with poorer memory, but the consumption of tempeh was associated with better memory.[109]

Pancreatic Cancer

Though raw soy flour is known to cause pancreatic cancer in rats[145] the cooked flour has not been found carcinogenic.[146][147] Whether soy might promote pancreatic cancer in humans is unknown because studies have not yet attempted to single out soy intake and the incidence of pancreatic cancer in humans, and the amount of soy fed to the rats is proportionately far larger than what humans would normally consume. However, the soy isoflavone genistein has been suggested as a chemopreventive agent against pancreatic cancer, by interfering with the chemical pathways that promote the creation and growth of tumors.[148]

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What does bread and a Yogi Mat have in Common? packman Mar 2014 #1
What do pickles and legos have in common? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #4
Not all chemicals are created equal. But it sure is fun to pretend laundry_queen Mar 2014 #10
Answers... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #11
I knew the answer of that, BTW. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #12
Why ridicule? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #13
Come on marions ghost Mar 2014 #14
I'm telling you to not get into a hyperbolic panic over OMG CHEMICALS!!!!!! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #16
Soy fiber (& soy milk) is one of the most controversial food substances out there... marions ghost Mar 2014 #17
"Not scientific but there ya go" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #18
ha ha marions ghost Mar 2014 #20
Declaring something to be "controversial" is an attempt to invent controversy Scootaloo Mar 2014 #21
And you look like... marions ghost Mar 2014 #22
That's... interesting Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
OK now I know you're not worth replying to marions ghost Mar 2014 #35
It's a silly argument that you didn't provide any support for Scootaloo Mar 2014 #37
My examples illustrate marions ghost Mar 2014 #43
Of course you'd say that. Orrex Mar 2014 #36
Not just that! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39
You disgust me. Orrex Mar 2014 #40
Kids are just chemical reactions waiting to happen n/t Scootaloo Mar 2014 #41
Well, you'll get no argument from me on that one. Orrex Mar 2014 #44
Wow. Lots of anger there. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #23
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27
Oh, I'm pretty sure it does. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #29
Anger and amusement are different things Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30
Mocking often comes from a place of anger. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #33
It bothers me in the way they go about it Scootaloo Mar 2014 #34
I can clearly tell that it bothers you. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #46
In other words, around 170 countries haven't banned this substance. Orrex Mar 2014 #7
Oh, ick! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2
Yep MoonRiver Mar 2014 #3
Oh, say it isn't so!!!! pipi_k Mar 2014 #5
Holy shit! There are chemicals in our food?!? Orrex Mar 2014 #6
only a very few KT2000 Mar 2014 #31
But if you buy organic food, you're just throwing money away! hedgehog Mar 2014 #8
Here's another take on it. Incitatus Mar 2014 #9
Contradictory article marions ghost Mar 2014 #15
Umm, yeah. The author took a balanced approach tkmorris Mar 2014 #24
Since when does "balance" marions ghost Mar 2014 #25
Give me a minute to smoke a bowl.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #19
Maybe that's what the gluten free is all about? The crap that goes into breads is making many of us Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
I have wondered about this for awhile. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #32
Very interesting. I would say something is going on with the bread and cereals, no doubt. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #38
On the question of gluten intolerancd Orrex Mar 2014 #42
I always like to look at things sorta simply, like a village girl... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #47
That's the fallacy of provincial wisdom. It's also argument from aesthetics. Orrex Mar 2014 #48
The environment of my grandparents was pretty clean. I stayed in the farmhouse my grandpa was born Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
Well, I'm glad that your grandparents were so fortunate Orrex Mar 2014 #56
Steal and coal were very dirty industries. My ancestors worked the land, taught, sewed clothing Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #57
Interesting marions ghost Mar 2014 #50
No one, right now. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #52
It's used to "mature" flour & improve dough quality instead of bleaching flour with chlorine dioxide FarCenter Mar 2014 #45
There is no data here on long term health effects marions ghost Mar 2014 #49
I'm glad I bake my own bread. mindem Mar 2014 #53
With ya marions ghost Mar 2014 #54
Head on down to Shlubway for a 6" yoga on wheat Blue Owl Mar 2014 #55
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