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laundry_queen

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32. I have wondered about this for awhile.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:04 PM
Mar 2014

A little anecdote (yes, for the 'scientific' amongst us, I'm well aware this means shit in science. Don't read my anecdote then.) My mom and her 7 siblings were all raised on bread. Homemade bread from the flour that her dad grew in the field (he would set aside some to take to the flour mill himself). They ate a LOT of bread. Bread for breakfast as toast. Bread at lunch with soup. Bread for dinner in the form of dinner buns. No one had any stomach issues.

Fast forward to about 10 years ago. My grandmother had long since stopped making bread now that she could afford to buy bought bread. A bunch of my mom's siblings developed GERD (reflux) and gastritis. All concurrently. So did I and my brother and a few of my cousins. So did my grandparents (my grandfather got such a severe ulcer, he had to be hospitalized because it had swelled to close off the exit to his stomach). We are all on medication like prevacid or nexium.

Now, if stomach issues were hereditary, don't you think everyone would've developed stomach issues at a round the same ages? Like, my grandparents would've developed issues at around 40, mom's generation would develop it at around 40, then when I reached 40, I would've developed it? No, we all started with stomach issues totally concurrently. We came to the conclusion it had to be some additive that started being put in packaged food at around the same time we started with stomach issues. I never did research it (kinda busy with school and kids) but I became convinced after learning the only one without stomach issues was my aunt who grew her own food, and canned everything and made her own bread, like my grandmother did.

My mom is very anti-medication and has tried numerous times to wean herself off the prevacid. She doesn't eat very much for packaged foods, but she still eats some. I was in a lot of pain last year and went for endoscopy in my stomach because of it and basically, I have 2 mild stomach conditions that are untreatable. I decided at around Christmas time to try harder to cook from scratch (something I did before my divorce when I was a stay at home parents and I had much less stomach pain) and I have been cooking almost every dinner from scratch - I have even been trying to make my own flavorings and sauces to stay away from the bottled stuff. And my stomach is better. Not great but better. I still eat bread, but I buy organic artisan bread from our local bakery at the grocery store my daughter works at. They have basic ingredients and claim zero additives. In my quest to figure out what is wrong with my stomach I had some gluten sensitivity testing. I have zero sensitivity at all. So I know my stomach issues have nothing to do with any kind of gluten issue. I still think it's some kind of additive causing it, but I can't pinpoint WHICH additive from WHICH food because my symptoms don't show up immediately.

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What does bread and a Yogi Mat have in Common? packman Mar 2014 #1
What do pickles and legos have in common? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #4
Not all chemicals are created equal. But it sure is fun to pretend laundry_queen Mar 2014 #10
Answers... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #11
I knew the answer of that, BTW. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #12
Why ridicule? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #13
Come on marions ghost Mar 2014 #14
I'm telling you to not get into a hyperbolic panic over OMG CHEMICALS!!!!!! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #16
Soy fiber (& soy milk) is one of the most controversial food substances out there... marions ghost Mar 2014 #17
"Not scientific but there ya go" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #18
ha ha marions ghost Mar 2014 #20
Declaring something to be "controversial" is an attempt to invent controversy Scootaloo Mar 2014 #21
And you look like... marions ghost Mar 2014 #22
That's... interesting Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
OK now I know you're not worth replying to marions ghost Mar 2014 #35
It's a silly argument that you didn't provide any support for Scootaloo Mar 2014 #37
My examples illustrate marions ghost Mar 2014 #43
Of course you'd say that. Orrex Mar 2014 #36
Not just that! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39
You disgust me. Orrex Mar 2014 #40
Kids are just chemical reactions waiting to happen n/t Scootaloo Mar 2014 #41
Well, you'll get no argument from me on that one. Orrex Mar 2014 #44
Wow. Lots of anger there. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #23
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27
Oh, I'm pretty sure it does. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #29
Anger and amusement are different things Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30
Mocking often comes from a place of anger. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #33
It bothers me in the way they go about it Scootaloo Mar 2014 #34
I can clearly tell that it bothers you. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #46
In other words, around 170 countries haven't banned this substance. Orrex Mar 2014 #7
Oh, ick! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2
Yep MoonRiver Mar 2014 #3
Oh, say it isn't so!!!! pipi_k Mar 2014 #5
Holy shit! There are chemicals in our food?!? Orrex Mar 2014 #6
only a very few KT2000 Mar 2014 #31
But if you buy organic food, you're just throwing money away! hedgehog Mar 2014 #8
Here's another take on it. Incitatus Mar 2014 #9
Contradictory article marions ghost Mar 2014 #15
Umm, yeah. The author took a balanced approach tkmorris Mar 2014 #24
Since when does "balance" marions ghost Mar 2014 #25
Give me a minute to smoke a bowl.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #19
Maybe that's what the gluten free is all about? The crap that goes into breads is making many of us Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
I have wondered about this for awhile. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #32
Very interesting. I would say something is going on with the bread and cereals, no doubt. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #38
On the question of gluten intolerancd Orrex Mar 2014 #42
I always like to look at things sorta simply, like a village girl... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #47
That's the fallacy of provincial wisdom. It's also argument from aesthetics. Orrex Mar 2014 #48
The environment of my grandparents was pretty clean. I stayed in the farmhouse my grandpa was born Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
Well, I'm glad that your grandparents were so fortunate Orrex Mar 2014 #56
Steal and coal were very dirty industries. My ancestors worked the land, taught, sewed clothing Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #57
Interesting marions ghost Mar 2014 #50
No one, right now. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #52
It's used to "mature" flour & improve dough quality instead of bleaching flour with chlorine dioxide FarCenter Mar 2014 #45
There is no data here on long term health effects marions ghost Mar 2014 #49
I'm glad I bake my own bread. mindem Mar 2014 #53
With ya marions ghost Mar 2014 #54
Head on down to Shlubway for a 6" yoga on wheat Blue Owl Mar 2014 #55
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