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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
34. It bothers me in the way they go about it
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:24 PM
Mar 2014

I completely understand the concerns and support the need for regulations and strictures and all that stuff, but people go about it in such a spacey, new-agey, fuzzy-headed way that they essentially neuter the issue.

Take GMO labelling. Good example of fuzzy-headedness, on two levels. First off, "genetically modified" is a really broad term. It doesn't just mean "dudes in labcoats playing with genomes" but also "dudes in overalls having the stud bull cover ol' Bessy." Every domesticated organism we have is "genetically modified" and a canny corporation would certainly exploit this - if every food is labeled "GMO" then what the hell are you going to buy? because - the second point of fuzziness - is that simply slapping a "GMO" label on something doesn't tell you anything about it. Golden rice - engineered so that it produces beta-carotine in the kernel - would be labeled exactly the same as cornmeal made from maize that produced its own gnarly antibiotics and nicotinoid insecticides.

Don't like GMO foods? That's fine, be as against them as you want, I may not share EVERY concern, but I share some of them and have no problem with you having 'em... but if you're going to oppose it, oppose it in a way that works - campaign against the patenting of genes and organisms.

Same with this issue. If there are harmful chemicals in food, hell yes, campaign against those chemicals being used! get the facts, present them, and hammer it like John Henry on speed. But don't just throw a "CHEMICALS!" blanket around, becuase it makes your campaign look ill-informed and a little hysterical. Avoid the "one molecule away from plastic!" arguments. Make the debate about the actual problem, which could be a specific substance, or the overall laxity if the FDA - in which case you still should have plenty of solid facts to launch from.

it bothers me because I see these wobbly, half-baked efforts as more damaging to the cause than helpful. It's like, the posters running around DU right now yelling "PUTIN IS JUST LIKE HITLER!" - I get their point, but he's not just like Hitler and the comparison just makes them look dumb and undermines their entire point.

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What does bread and a Yogi Mat have in Common? packman Mar 2014 #1
What do pickles and legos have in common? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #4
Not all chemicals are created equal. But it sure is fun to pretend laundry_queen Mar 2014 #10
Answers... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #11
I knew the answer of that, BTW. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #12
Why ridicule? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #13
Come on marions ghost Mar 2014 #14
I'm telling you to not get into a hyperbolic panic over OMG CHEMICALS!!!!!! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #16
Soy fiber (& soy milk) is one of the most controversial food substances out there... marions ghost Mar 2014 #17
"Not scientific but there ya go" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #18
ha ha marions ghost Mar 2014 #20
Declaring something to be "controversial" is an attempt to invent controversy Scootaloo Mar 2014 #21
And you look like... marions ghost Mar 2014 #22
That's... interesting Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
OK now I know you're not worth replying to marions ghost Mar 2014 #35
It's a silly argument that you didn't provide any support for Scootaloo Mar 2014 #37
My examples illustrate marions ghost Mar 2014 #43
Of course you'd say that. Orrex Mar 2014 #36
Not just that! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39
You disgust me. Orrex Mar 2014 #40
Kids are just chemical reactions waiting to happen n/t Scootaloo Mar 2014 #41
Well, you'll get no argument from me on that one. Orrex Mar 2014 #44
Wow. Lots of anger there. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #23
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27
Oh, I'm pretty sure it does. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #29
Anger and amusement are different things Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30
Mocking often comes from a place of anger. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #33
It bothers me in the way they go about it Scootaloo Mar 2014 #34
I can clearly tell that it bothers you. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #46
In other words, around 170 countries haven't banned this substance. Orrex Mar 2014 #7
Oh, ick! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2
Yep MoonRiver Mar 2014 #3
Oh, say it isn't so!!!! pipi_k Mar 2014 #5
Holy shit! There are chemicals in our food?!? Orrex Mar 2014 #6
only a very few KT2000 Mar 2014 #31
But if you buy organic food, you're just throwing money away! hedgehog Mar 2014 #8
Here's another take on it. Incitatus Mar 2014 #9
Contradictory article marions ghost Mar 2014 #15
Umm, yeah. The author took a balanced approach tkmorris Mar 2014 #24
Since when does "balance" marions ghost Mar 2014 #25
Give me a minute to smoke a bowl.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #19
Maybe that's what the gluten free is all about? The crap that goes into breads is making many of us Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
I have wondered about this for awhile. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #32
Very interesting. I would say something is going on with the bread and cereals, no doubt. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #38
On the question of gluten intolerancd Orrex Mar 2014 #42
I always like to look at things sorta simply, like a village girl... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #47
That's the fallacy of provincial wisdom. It's also argument from aesthetics. Orrex Mar 2014 #48
The environment of my grandparents was pretty clean. I stayed in the farmhouse my grandpa was born Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
Well, I'm glad that your grandparents were so fortunate Orrex Mar 2014 #56
Steal and coal were very dirty industries. My ancestors worked the land, taught, sewed clothing Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #57
Interesting marions ghost Mar 2014 #50
No one, right now. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #52
It's used to "mature" flour & improve dough quality instead of bleaching flour with chlorine dioxide FarCenter Mar 2014 #45
There is no data here on long term health effects marions ghost Mar 2014 #49
I'm glad I bake my own bread. mindem Mar 2014 #53
With ya marions ghost Mar 2014 #54
Head on down to Shlubway for a 6" yoga on wheat Blue Owl Mar 2014 #55
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