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Orrex

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42. On the question of gluten intolerancd
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 05:03 PM
Mar 2014
It is far too strange that in ancient times people ate bread like crazy because most people were poor and that's how they filled their belly and got vitamins and energy, and now people are reacting adversely to the staple of life.
Leaving aside the fact that we don't actually know how many ancient people suffered from what we now call gluten intolerance, I would be interested to learn how many modern people claiming to suffer from gluten intolerance actually do suffer from it.

I know about celiac disease, and that's not what I'm addressing here. For every person I've met who has been diagnosed with celiac disease, I know two dozen people with a vague and self-diagnosed gluten intolerance. I don't doubt that some of these people actually do suffer this intolerance, but in the absence of a formal diagnosis, then we are, broadly speaking, dealing with anecdotal guesswork.

I begrudge no one their right to alter their diets in a way that they find to be more conducive to easier digestion. But when we're speculating about the alleged relative toxicity of modern versus ancient bread, then that raises the stakes, and we simply can't rely on the personal anecdote or self-diagnosis.

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What does bread and a Yogi Mat have in Common? packman Mar 2014 #1
What do pickles and legos have in common? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #4
Not all chemicals are created equal. But it sure is fun to pretend laundry_queen Mar 2014 #10
Answers... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #11
I knew the answer of that, BTW. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #12
Why ridicule? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #13
Come on marions ghost Mar 2014 #14
I'm telling you to not get into a hyperbolic panic over OMG CHEMICALS!!!!!! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #16
Soy fiber (& soy milk) is one of the most controversial food substances out there... marions ghost Mar 2014 #17
"Not scientific but there ya go" Scootaloo Mar 2014 #18
ha ha marions ghost Mar 2014 #20
Declaring something to be "controversial" is an attempt to invent controversy Scootaloo Mar 2014 #21
And you look like... marions ghost Mar 2014 #22
That's... interesting Scootaloo Mar 2014 #26
OK now I know you're not worth replying to marions ghost Mar 2014 #35
It's a silly argument that you didn't provide any support for Scootaloo Mar 2014 #37
My examples illustrate marions ghost Mar 2014 #43
Of course you'd say that. Orrex Mar 2014 #36
Not just that! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39
You disgust me. Orrex Mar 2014 #40
Kids are just chemical reactions waiting to happen n/t Scootaloo Mar 2014 #41
Well, you'll get no argument from me on that one. Orrex Mar 2014 #44
Wow. Lots of anger there. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #23
I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27
Oh, I'm pretty sure it does. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #29
Anger and amusement are different things Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30
Mocking often comes from a place of anger. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #33
It bothers me in the way they go about it Scootaloo Mar 2014 #34
I can clearly tell that it bothers you. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #46
In other words, around 170 countries haven't banned this substance. Orrex Mar 2014 #7
Oh, ick! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2
Yep MoonRiver Mar 2014 #3
Oh, say it isn't so!!!! pipi_k Mar 2014 #5
Holy shit! There are chemicals in our food?!? Orrex Mar 2014 #6
only a very few KT2000 Mar 2014 #31
But if you buy organic food, you're just throwing money away! hedgehog Mar 2014 #8
Here's another take on it. Incitatus Mar 2014 #9
Contradictory article marions ghost Mar 2014 #15
Umm, yeah. The author took a balanced approach tkmorris Mar 2014 #24
Since when does "balance" marions ghost Mar 2014 #25
Give me a minute to smoke a bowl.... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #19
Maybe that's what the gluten free is all about? The crap that goes into breads is making many of us Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #28
I have wondered about this for awhile. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #32
Very interesting. I would say something is going on with the bread and cereals, no doubt. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #38
On the question of gluten intolerancd Orrex Mar 2014 #42
I always like to look at things sorta simply, like a village girl... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #47
That's the fallacy of provincial wisdom. It's also argument from aesthetics. Orrex Mar 2014 #48
The environment of my grandparents was pretty clean. I stayed in the farmhouse my grandpa was born Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51
Well, I'm glad that your grandparents were so fortunate Orrex Mar 2014 #56
Steal and coal were very dirty industries. My ancestors worked the land, taught, sewed clothing Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #57
Interesting marions ghost Mar 2014 #50
No one, right now. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #52
It's used to "mature" flour & improve dough quality instead of bleaching flour with chlorine dioxide FarCenter Mar 2014 #45
There is no data here on long term health effects marions ghost Mar 2014 #49
I'm glad I bake my own bread. mindem Mar 2014 #53
With ya marions ghost Mar 2014 #54
Head on down to Shlubway for a 6" yoga on wheat Blue Owl Mar 2014 #55
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