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64. Two things. 1. They vote 2. How do you know what job they'll end up in?

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 06:38 PM

Mar 2014

1. They will vote for Tea Party candidates if they are not taught proper science. And most of the home schooling I hear about is for religious reasons. That is why Fox made the leap that to not allow it is religious persecution.

I have a friend who home schooled their kids and I don't know the son that well, but the high school aged daughter is very educated. So I'm not opposed to home schooling in general, but I am disturbed that the majority of it seems to be done in order to not have to teach reality like science and history. Education should absolutely not be faith based. Period.

So even if they end up in a job where their religious faith may not seem to have an effect, they are voters and that is a problem. Also, who the hell wants to live in a country full of ignorant people anyway? Ignorant voting is dangerous. These are also the people who believe Faux News.

2. How do you know what job they will end up in? They could run for public office, they are running for public office. And when they do the other ignorant home schooled so that you don't have to learn about reality folks will vote for them.

So I'm not against the idea of it as long as there is strict testing for getting accredited.

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Delicious Wingnut Outrage: Team Obama wins fight to have Christian home-school family deported [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

Do you think homeschooling be illegal in the United States? nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1

no. do you think that not being allowed to homeschool your kids cali Mar 2014 #3

Probably not. nt el_bryanto Mar 2014 #20

Depends AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #112

No, but tularetom Mar 2014 #9

They need a GED Andy823 Mar 2014 #19

BTW, some universities don't take a GED for college admissions anymore. Sancho Mar 2014 #66

I think it's a good idea, also no private schools from K-12 snooper2 Mar 2014 #14

I need to point out that we have a higher percentage of high school graduates than darn near jtuck004 Mar 2014 #51

Being home schooled does not necessarily avebury Mar 2014 #121

It has much to do with the things that are around school, like the home life, the culture jtuck004 Mar 2014 #125

Please do not assume we are all dumb, or that we all believe the same things Rowan16 Mar 2014 #134

You don't know what I assume. I am guessing my point missed where you were standing jtuck004 Mar 2014 #137

So the education Obama's daughters are getting at Sidwell (private school) aznativ Mar 2014 #131

It didn't do it to Chelsea Clinton, so the Obama kids are probably safe jmowreader Mar 2014 #143

I'd go to prison before I ever sent my kids to public school. Chan790 Mar 2014 #144

Back in my day, Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #141

I don't like how this guy is equating homeschooling and religious freedom justiceischeap Mar 2014 #2

I moved my kid from an otherwise good public school system SheilaT Mar 2014 #21

I homeschooled 25 yrs ago because of a teacher who was a bully. There are Nay Mar 2014 #65

the law that allows it is based on religious freedom. mopinko Mar 2014 #54

I do. I have seen religious home schooling fail many times. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #106

I have a much different perspective YarnAddict Mar 2014 #4

nope, not even a little bit. If you knew anything about me cali Mar 2014 #7

Okay, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #12

It would set a terrible precedent. the grounds for asylum cali Mar 2014 #22

They can apply for citizenship instead of this bullshit persecution claim... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #28

While I agree that ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #46

You and I usually disagree AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #114

If it isn't persecution they have no grounds to ask for asylum tkmorris Mar 2014 #45

+1000. Yep. Nay Mar 2014 #69

They can still home school their children as long as they send them to public school also. 1monster Mar 2014 #48

Maybe their kids are being bullied in school YarnAddict Mar 2014 #73

Maybe space aliens are going to kidnap them off the school bus!!!! jeff47 Mar 2014 #111

WHY ARE YOU MAKING THINGS UP? Do you think FOX would have ignored this, were it true?????? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #123

Are you KIDDING?? That's not a reason for asylum! (Or even immigration.) WinkyDink Mar 2014 #122

Yes, parents should have the right... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #127

The point of it is it's a bullshit asylum claim Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #135

They could have moved to Austria and home-schooled muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #138

homeshools have a place, but in general i trust them as far as i can throw them dembotoz Mar 2014 #5

Good call. It was a bullshit claim. jsr Mar 2014 #6

Home schooling is a bad idea in 99% of the cases. And in 99% of the cases, the motivations of Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8

In 99% of cases, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #10

that's fine, but it's still not grounds for asylum cali Mar 2014 #13

There are a slew of homeschoolers that don't fit that profile The Straight Story Mar 2014 #15

sorry, but it's fact that most families cali Mar 2014 #24

The internet says you are wrong AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #117

I've known LOTS of homeschoolers YarnAddict Mar 2014 #16

"Who cares if your nurse, or you insurance agent, or your mortgage lender... SoCalNative Mar 2014 #26

How often does that question come up YarnAddict Mar 2014 #34

I would be concerned that I would be getting bad advice from them. Gore1FL Mar 2014 #72

So the question is, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #76

I work with a large variety of people of different backgrounds. Gore1FL Mar 2014 #79

Some don't YarnAddict Mar 2014 #84

They'll show a lack of scientific literacy sooner or later. n/t Gore1FL Mar 2014 #130

I too have known many folks who home schooled cali Mar 2014 #27

I really don't know how you can make a judgment like that. n/t YarnAddict Mar 2014 #30

Two things. 1. They vote 2. How do you know what job they'll end up in? cui bono Mar 2014 #64

Let me get this straight . . . YarnAddict Mar 2014 #70

You know very well that's not what I said or meant. cui bono Mar 2014 #88

If only smart people could vote, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #90

"would you like to reinstitute literacy tests?????? " Lucky Luciano Mar 2014 #96

True that YarnAddict Mar 2014 #100

Smart is not the same as educated. cui bono Mar 2014 #98

Being "educated" YarnAddict Mar 2014 #101

I didn't mention anything about testing voters. cui bono Mar 2014 #103

Yes, we should want that YarnAddict Mar 2014 #108

Dude AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #118

And home schooling helps fix public education SO MUCH Scootaloo Mar 2014 #29

An individual family who chooses to homeschool YarnAddict Mar 2014 #33

They don't do anything to harm it Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #93

That's actually buying into right wing misinformation. Though it's hard to believe Squinch Mar 2014 #36

It's based on my own experiences with my YarnAddict Mar 2014 #39

Then it isn't accurate to say that 99% of the time public school suck when you are basing your Squinch Mar 2014 #44

Blanket statement in response to a blanket statement YarnAddict Mar 2014 #47

That's nice. That's one experience. That's not 99% of the time. Squinch Mar 2014 #49

And in 99% of cases, homeschooling is not a bad idea YarnAddict Mar 2014 #53

No. I don't. Personally, I think homeschooling is only rarely good idea. Squinch Mar 2014 #56

Corporate-driven "reform" is making public schools suck nikto Mar 2014 #107

I know this is an unpopular opinion here YarnAddict Mar 2014 #109

Is that in an urban area, small town, suburb? nikto Mar 2014 #132

We are rural YarnAddict Mar 2014 #133

Wow. That is scary to think folks representing a rural area would... nikto Mar 2014 #139

We tried to pass a millage once YarnAddict Mar 2014 #140

Would like to see stats on that dbackjon Mar 2014 #77

People homeschool for a wide variety of reasons YarnAddict Mar 2014 #86

Gotcha dbackjon Mar 2014 #102

you're right- although I've known quite a few people who did cali Mar 2014 #11

one of the few who did well was a couple of parents who were missionaries in Belize Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #18

I have a couple of friends who were homeschooled Arkana Mar 2014 #42

Actually, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #50

You're full of statistics and facts, enlightenment Mar 2014 #91

Most of my info YarnAddict Mar 2014 #94

Then you are not presenting facts, enlightenment Mar 2014 #110

You made the assertion, I think it's on you to back it up. Arkana Mar 2014 #119

They only care about this family because they are white kimbutgar Mar 2014 #17

I often disagree with you (at least lately), but you're right here! K&R NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #23

What was stopping them from homeschooling them? fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #25

Germany does not allow for home schooling Scootaloo Mar 2014 #31

I get that the German system does not allow for home schooling only. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #43

Nothing. But if the kids stay in public school, they learn evil things like evolution. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #113

I'd like to know how they were even admitted to the US while claiming Nay Mar 2014 #68

Every home schooler I've encountered was doing it to hide abuse of the child. Ever one. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #32

Total bullshit. YarnAddict Mar 2014 #35

No it's not. I worked as an attorney for Children's Services. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #52

Maybe you should check this out YarnAddict Mar 2014 #57

I am too upset to respond to you. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #59

Pointless, Shrike47. Feral Child Mar 2014 #89

Of course abused children went to school, also. We usually got to them faster, but not always. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #126

Yep....used to do juvenile justice, had to switch to adults. You are correct--every 'homeschooler' msanthrope Mar 2014 #145

Not B.S. ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #61

The post I responded to YarnAddict Mar 2014 #63

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #80

I agree n/t YarnAddict Mar 2014 #82

Citation? Feral Child Mar 2014 #83

Common sense YarnAddict Mar 2014 #85

Attributing statements Feral Child Mar 2014 #92

Well-- YarnAddict Mar 2014 #95

Hahaha fucking epic AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #120

I'm thinking your exposure was more than a little biased. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2014 #67

I have the exact same experience with home schooled kids Nevernose Mar 2014 #116

Im anti-home schooling iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #37

That's really pretty short-sighted YarnAddict Mar 2014 #41

at least intentionally. Gore1FL Mar 2014 #78

Standards . . . YarnAddict Mar 2014 #81

I'm not arguing that not funding education for 30 years didn;t have an impact Gore1FL Mar 2014 #129

lol.... every parent screws up. notadmblnd Mar 2014 #87

But, YarnAddict Mar 2014 #99

Well, to me the lack of certification meant that my son's learning disability went undiagnosed notadmblnd Mar 2014 #104

My son was a tactile learner YarnAddict Mar 2014 #105

Am I the only one who finds this absurd? REP Mar 2014 #38

Yeah, I find it real hard to feel bad for this family. Arkana Mar 2014 #40

Homeschoolers at my house Ned Fenwick Mar 2014 #55

Good for you YarnAddict Mar 2014 #60

Very odd, since religion is taught in German public schools. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #58

I suspect this may be part of the problem -- this family doesn't want its Nay Mar 2014 #74

If we gave asylum based on this drm604 Mar 2014 #62

Faux ignored the Reich-Wing-controlled Supreme Court's decision to decline to hear the appeal, eh? Roland99 Mar 2014 #71

LOL! So he sends home a German family and that is an indicator he is crushing religious freedoms? Rex Mar 2014 #75

wingers hate Catholics azureblue Mar 2014 #97

Some parents may do a fine job of home schooling but it doesnt happen in every case. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #115

Germany has laws. Scientology, e.g., is outlawed. Its citizens are not to concoct "education". WinkyDink Mar 2014 #124

Kid's learn differently...I like any approach that works. onpatrol98 Mar 2014 #128

But today the DHS has granted the Romeikes "indefinite deferred status" per AP. alp227 Mar 2014 #136

I'm not a big fan of home schooling... NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #142