We can not fucking do any fucking thing militarily versus Russia vis-a-vis Ukraine.

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29. Half the country and Crimea are calling the 'new' government illegitimate. Huge anti Kiev

demonstrations are taking place now in the South and Eastern parts of the country. How will this government control this kind of unrest? There is only one way, by force. And if they do that, there will be a civil war there. The idiots are not doing anything to unite the country either. Passing laws already trying to change the language law already in place has incensed large parts of the population. It doesn't sound like these 'rebels' are too smart.

We have no business there. The EU, Russia and Ukraine are going to have to work this out. They could start by making sure the neo-nazi contingency remains very far in the background.

All the sound and fury here means nothing. The EU is not as anxious as some here to go charging to war with Russia. They get at least one third or more of their oil from Russia and have to consider the ramifications if they were to start any conflict there or even to try to impose sanctions.

If you're going to play chess, you need to have good strategy which means being able to anticipate what the result of your moves might be. I believe the EU is far more aware of what might happen if they listen to the Neocon Warmongers here. The world doesn't need a third world war, although the neocons are probably salivating at the thought. It will be Western Europe and the US against the rest of the world. China has already weighed in on Russia's side. We don't have many friends in Latin America or the ME.

We should leave it to those whose business it is and stop running around the world talking about 'punishing' world leaders, it makes us look like ignorant bullies and sure hasn't solved many problems so far after 13 years of neocon wars.