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Ghost in the Machine

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256. Well, as a former user who smoked for a little over 40 years out of my 51 years on this Earth, I can

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:25 AM

Mar 2014

say with a certainty that I drove better while stoned. Growing up, I always had fast cars... hot rods... and loved street racing! I drove fast everywhere I went! 100 mph was normal driving on the turnpike in South Florida. I learned how3 to drive on the hilly, curvy roads, back roads and dirt roads in the foothills of the Smoky Mountains of Tennessee, though. However, when I drove after smoking, I used to drive slower... a LOT slower... so I could enjoy the scenery. I did the same thing while driving the back roads in the Everglades, too.

I barely drive anymore now, but when I do, I prefer a nice slow cruise through the mountains, even though I don't imbibe anymore. I know a lot of other people who are the same as me. Smoking, literally, let me "slow down and smell the roses"....

Peace,

Ghost

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Ca. Gov. Jerrry Brown: World is �too dangerous� for a nation of potheads [View all] Playinghardball Mar 2014 OP

Oh, FFS. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #1

dudes a crooked fascist reddread Mar 2014 #2

A bird in the hand - think of the PRISON revenue! -nt- DireStrike Mar 2014 #9

As a Californian, I totally agree with my Governor. Tikki Mar 2014 #3

and how much effect are the two of you having? reddread Mar 2014 #4

pot smokers support the cartels, not non-smokers lindysalsagal Mar 2014 #73

The mob got out of the liquor business when Prohibition was repealed hobbit709 Mar 2014 #83

the cartels support the politicians, and vice versa reddread Mar 2014 #118

And sometimes, especially here in Calif., they are one truedelphi Mar 2014 #235

That's not going to happen. Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #126

If we legalized, the profit would disappear and thus the crime. aquart Mar 2014 #152

Chickens and eggs. I'm afraid either way you're never drying up demand so might as well open Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #179

Cartels? What kind of idiot would smoke Mexican weed in CA? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #233

uh reddread Mar 2014 #234

You think they sell that in CA? LeftyMom Mar 2014 #242

Im pointing to the cartel's involvement in illegal CA production, and their political power reddread Mar 2014 #243

Dude, even animals in the wild get drunk. Phlem Mar 2014 #245

B.S. Mine comes from the dangerous warehouse region of Portland. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #251

I don't nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #10

I have posted this here�legal or not legal, I don't care if people smoke in the privacy.. Tikki Mar 2014 #25

You have a clause in your lease that bans use of alcoholic beverages? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #39

Now you understand why I don't want a pot user living in my property. Tikki Mar 2014 #49

I don't. Throd Mar 2014 #50

I don't understand at all. You have made no case other than "I don't like pot". cleanhippie Mar 2014 #93

Why is booze better than a weed? seveneyes Mar 2014 #99

Does the lease say pot or only "alcoholic beverages"? aquart Mar 2014 #153

I will argue that when I get in my car, I step on the accelorator and go as fast as the car will go MindMover Mar 2014 #53

I bet you can't even tell when the average medical cannabis user is kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #80

You should really educate yourself more on things you don't know about. liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #114

"I don't care if people smoke in the privacy of their own home�" MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #155

There are so many things you are clueless about...... Logical Mar 2014 #213

So as a landlord sabbat hunter Mar 2014 #227

As a Californian, I totally disagree with my Governor Throd Mar 2014 #27

The only reason he is doing it is because of the upcoming election. After that is over he will have lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #54

Ah, the proposition, brought to you by sane Californians .... thank God for propositions ...nt MindMover Mar 2014 #62

In this case yes lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #66

I hope we get some other Dem to vote for Politicalboi Mar 2014 #136

They can use propositions to bypass politicians. I will vote for him since the repugs lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #146

LOL, thanks for the detailed explanation why. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #211

care to expound on your reasons why? Phlem Mar 2014 #246

"The problem with anything, a certain amount is okay. But there is a tendency to go to extremes." MindMover Mar 2014 #5

Actually I want NEITHER driving nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #11

The surest sign of the lazy pot advocate.... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #32

Ok, lets take away all those crutches that humans have .. and call me lazy, that is exactly who I am MindMover Mar 2014 #37

Surest sign of a hypocrite on the subject of mind altering substances Fumesucker Mar 2014 #40

There sure is a lot of hypocrisy on this subject. Mariana Mar 2014 #87

Not a deep thinker I assume? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #215

You've wounded me... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #224

I am guessing you might not be here long. Just a guess. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #226

I've gone to far more "extremes" in my alcohol use than I ever have or will kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #60

LOL! Much needed smack of common sense about pot from someone on the left. reformist2 Mar 2014 #6

Smack is not common sense ... and left he is NOT MindMover Mar 2014 #68

thank you shanti Mar 2014 #75

Wha..what? Cleita Mar 2014 #7

dont forget jumping Arianna's bones reddread Mar 2014 #18

Alright, I'll say it... DireStrike Mar 2014 #8

Sadly, Jerry Brown has become an old man DJ13 Mar 2014 #12

and has sold out to a certain rational that affords his current donor logic ... playin there tune .. MindMover Mar 2014 #48

Old should have the least to do with it... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #165

why is the assumption that hordes of people are suddenly gonna become stoners? KG Mar 2014 #13

exactly, thanks to the black market reddread Mar 2014 #21

Truth. Iggo Mar 2014 #24

That's my thought too. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #30

Not true. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #142

I don't know that making it legal ends drug testing at work. alarimer Mar 2014 #205

Exactly, KG� what an assumption, indeed. MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #160

Jerry Brown goes under the DU bus for stating the obvious. former9thward Mar 2014 #14

Because it is neither obvious or true. Bonobo Mar 2014 #22

BINGO ... MindMover Mar 2014 #29

In college I did some of my best class presentations when a bit high, I was relaxed, must have RKP5637 Mar 2014 #33

I learned thousands of Chinese characters high. Bonobo Mar 2014 #38

Yes, incredible focus! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #41

I found a light buzz to be a very effective tool Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #45

pot helps your brain edit out extraneous distractions mainer Mar 2014 #130

Right, those who aren't high must not know what they are talking about. former9thward Mar 2014 #43

You wouldn't necessarily recognize the ones that are high and productive. Bonobo Mar 2014 #47

Yea a little bit of marijuana can be an enormous productivity booster. phleshdef Mar 2014 #71

My ex son-in-law - 4 car 840high Mar 2014 #74

Me, pot smoker. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #91

And millions drive drunk every day and don't have accidents. former9thward Mar 2014 #97

So, you think that "drunk" and "buzzed" are the same thing? Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #100

I have drove people with a buzz. former9thward Mar 2014 #102

Well, the only way you can "guarantee" Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #103

So, since you bring up science, do you think DUI for pot is illegitimate? former9thward Mar 2014 #104

It is illigitimate. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #105

I went to the article and there are no links to any studies. former9thward Mar 2014 #107

Speaking of "agendas" . . . Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #111

You want studies?? Will a page full of links/facts of studies by the National Institute of Health Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #219

Dear Ghost; former9thward Mar 2014 #222

Well, as a former user who smoked for a little over 40 years out of my 51 years on this Earth, I can Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #256

Her experience Feral Child Mar 2014 #117

Yours will never improve. former9thward Mar 2014 #129

Your opinion is based on your experience and education... MindMover Mar 2014 #141

If your post was intended as a reply to me it makes no sense whatsoever. former9thward Mar 2014 #148

You are the one that makes no sense with your nonsensical reasoning about "the weed" ... MindMover Mar 2014 #149

Each post is more incoherent than the last. former9thward Mar 2014 #151

LOL, you obfuscate to obscure your obvious lack of reasoning ability ... nice try MindMover Mar 2014 #154

I do know what I'm talking about. former9thward Mar 2014 #156

Prove it, I can .... MindMover Mar 2014 #157

I'll be waiting for that proof... former9thward Mar 2014 #159

Is a Doctorate in Psychology with an addiction specialty, enough tech .... MindMover Mar 2014 #163

Ok, let me get this straight... former9thward Mar 2014 #166

Maybe you should watch this, because your rationale is really lacking in this thread ... enjoy MindMover Mar 2014 #167

I don't listen to propaganda from either side. former9thward Mar 2014 #170

No propaganda, this is the emotional side of your position on the evil weed ... MindMover Mar 2014 #171

Where did I say weed was "evil"? former9thward Mar 2014 #173

The movie defines weed as evil and that is what I was referring to ... however you state ... MindMover Mar 2014 #194

Thank you for quoting me accurately. former9thward Mar 2014 #198

What little experience you have had, you have formed an opinion about ... MindMover Mar 2014 #201

Very rude, very judgmental. Feral Child Mar 2014 #145

Use the ignore feature if you don't want to hear from me. former9thward Mar 2014 #147

I've conjugated lots of sentences while high. Think about it. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #223

I'd rather not. former9thward Mar 2014 #225

Point being, you're awfully high and mighty for someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #229

Ohh, the language police have arrived. former9thward Mar 2014 #238

Good heavens, where do you live? Mariana Mar 2014 #232

Really? Please do cite the statistics on pot use and income status. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #64

You cite them. former9thward Mar 2014 #89

Right. No pal, you're the one asserting that there is a problem that justifies criminalization. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #96

Show the post where I said it deserves criminalization. former9thward Mar 2014 #98

So when you agreed with Brown that pot should remain illegal Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #113

Show that post. former9thward Mar 2014 #115

You agreed with Brown's statement supporting continued criminalization of pot. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #120

Lying again. former9thward Mar 2014 #128

What a silly game you're playing. I hope you're entertained. I'm not. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #182

Hmmm, someone suddenly coming in on a sub-thread to defend a poster .... former9thward Mar 2014 #184

I'm suspicious why you would be suspicious. What are you insinuating? I read your string of posts, Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #186

No, a beer and a cigar is my vice. former9thward Mar 2014 #190

Different stroke for different folks. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #191

Well, you must have SOME idea... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #164

Anything I said would be denounced as "anecdotal." former9thward Mar 2014 #169

"religious people"�? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #172

What you say is your opinion and anecdotal. former9thward Mar 2014 #174

The point is that you have no intention to add content to what you think... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #254

Jerry is far from progressive. truedelphi Mar 2014 #231

I like Brown. former9thward Mar 2014 #241

I don't doubt for one minute that Brown gets people to work together. truedelphi Mar 2014 #248

You don't see me. I am a roody Mar 2014 #67

I was one of the most productive workers Politicalboi Mar 2014 #137

Oh, you have THC-ray vision? You have no idea who's high and who is not. PassingFair Mar 2014 #196

Yes I do. former9thward Mar 2014 #199

You also don't go through life with blood tests on you. PassingFair Mar 2014 #207

You must live a sheltered life. former9thward Mar 2014 #208

And you must live a delusional one. PassingFair Mar 2014 #210

.... laundry_queen Mar 2014 #244

Seriously. Judge people on their behavior, not what you think their behavior might be Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #79

I still like Jerry Brown a lot. But he is showing his ignorance on this one. phleshdef Mar 2014 #70

Do you think Jerry Brown dropped in from Mars? former9thward Mar 2014 #90

Brown told an Obvious lie or he has a severe lack of intelligence seveneyes Mar 2014 #106

Is he now a "fascist" as he had been called in this thread? former9thward Mar 2014 #108

I would not go that far seveneyes Mar 2014 #109

As must the God of Repetitive Stupid Shit must also be invoked... repetitively. LanternWaste Mar 2014 #123

I guess conflating drug policy and a "god of pot" is mentally convenient... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #121

So Brown is a fascist? former9thward Mar 2014 #127

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #143

Its so funny when weapons get pointed at bystanders and fired reddread Mar 2014 #162

dude, back away from the keyboard... Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #178

uh, yeah. when you sponsor and applaud the most violent of reprisals. yeah. reddread Mar 2014 #158

So we have a fascist heading the biggest state in the OP. former9thward Mar 2014 #161

He is just another politician ... however MindMover Mar 2014 #192

Anyone who would describe Brown as a fascist based on his comments is insane. former9thward Mar 2014 #193

I know the definition of insanity and disruption is exactly what you have been doing in this thread MindMover Mar 2014 #195

You are doubling down that Brown is a fascist. former9thward Mar 2014 #197

I am not doubling down on anything, I am giving you a definition and you ... MindMover Mar 2014 #200

A poster called Brown a fascist. former9thward Mar 2014 #203

I did, you little mccarthyite, say my name reddread Mar 2014 #209

I could care less what you post. former9thward Mar 2014 #214

Could you please refrain from name calling and enter your argument or opinion intelligently ... MindMover Mar 2014 #216

Perhaps you only selectively read posts. former9thward Mar 2014 #218

you would hold me accountable but not someone who has punished protesters SEVERELY? reddread Mar 2014 #221

If the govs behavior, defined by someone other than me, elicits being called a fascist ... SoBeIt MindMover Mar 2014 #212

I think the poster was referring to his roody Mar 2014 #230

We didn't have a fascist as Mayor of Oakland. former9thward Mar 2014 #239

Has he even been to California? Throd Mar 2014 #15

LMAO ... madness I say, madness ... total madness ... MindMover Mar 2014 #31

Coward tabasco Mar 2014 #16

Yeah, what we need is a bunch of Drunk, Cold Killers PeoViejo Mar 2014 #17

Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #19

You gotta be kidding me� Governor "Moonbeam" � ???? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #20

Moonbeam is also pro Fracking while his state suffers a terrible drought Champion Jack Mar 2014 #56

He also lost his mind... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #72

...who governs the... CanSocDem Mar 2014 #112

Alcohol's legal. Are we a nation of alcoholics? Iggo Mar 2014 #23

+1 nt nyquil_man Mar 2014 #36

It's California, Jerry Nevernose Mar 2014 #26

+1 mike_c Mar 2014 #35

So, following that logic, booze should immediately be banned in CA except for medical RKP5637 Mar 2014 #28

remember, CA has an immense prison population and very powerful police and prison guard lobbies.... mike_c Mar 2014 #34

This ^^^ and their free confiscated stash. libdem4life Mar 2014 #58

Exactly. jsr Mar 2014 #124

Oh ffs. Potheads like Carl Sagan--- or Steve Jobs? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #42

...or Jerry Brown? Iggo Mar 2014 #46

+1 n/t jaysunb Mar 2014 #51

no need to insult smokers. Brown is simply STUPID. reddread Mar 2014 #119

Do you think he really smoked? MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #168

oh that gives me the creeps reddread Mar 2014 #175

Yes, I think he really smoked. Iggo Mar 2014 #249

hee-hee... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #255

Yikes! polichick Mar 2014 #44

No surprise he is coming up for an election. lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #52

Does not matter just put it up as a proposition, problem solved lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #55

As opposed to the nation of drunkards that we currently are.............. kestrel91316 Mar 2014 #57

Would he prefer a nation or state of criminals or drunks? fujiyama Mar 2014 #61

Another privileged boomer who did his drugs back then and now wants to bust everyone. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #65

He is just another politician ... MindMover Mar 2014 #69

I usually like Jerry Brown but some things hes says and does is just full of shit. Lint Head Mar 2014 #76

"Pothead" explains his silence when Feds were busting down medical-marijuana Trillo Mar 2014 #77

If a deity told me I had to make the decision defacto7 Mar 2014 #78

Yawn, Jerry. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #81

All new ideas start first in Cal... er, Colorado. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #252

He's wrong, if the whole world were potheads, no one would be capable of violence. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #82

! Octafish Mar 2014 #88

I think they might be capable, just disinterested in the destructive notion of it. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #185

Ca. Gov. Jerrry Brown: World is �too dangerous� for a nation of drunks, outlaws booze. Scuba Mar 2014 #84

It is funny about the double standard, although not truedelphi Mar 2014 #236

no way man! nolkyz Mar 2014 #85

Right, it's the dope that is destroying America, not the corrupt, venal politicians. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #86

Does Jerry Brown know that there rae more persons high on legal malaise Mar 2014 #92

As a COLORADOAN (insert happy giggle here) I think the good Governor Autumn Mar 2014 #94

Hickenlooper wasn't real happy either but SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #133

True, but Frackenlooper is for it now. Those tax dollars Autumn Mar 2014 #180

"The only thing we have to fear is... getting too stoned to be scared shitless 24/7" ? KurtNYC Mar 2014 #95

"I think we need to stay ALERT, if not 24 hours a day" kenny blankenship Mar 2014 #101

"...MY AURA SMILES AND NEVER FROWNS... sibelian Mar 2014 #110

Someone should tell the governor about this alcohol stuff. nt valerief Mar 2014 #116

Had I been born in '79 Feral Child Mar 2014 #122

Hint: California Correctional Peace Officers Association. jsr Mar 2014 #125

BIGGER hint: 2016 reddread Mar 2014 #132

Legalized weed = fewer prisoners tularetom Mar 2014 #131

People don't go to prison for weed possession in CA. former9thward Mar 2014 #150

would you please get something right? reddread Mar 2014 #176

Will you please get something right? former9thward Mar 2014 #177

possession is hardly the only possible charge reddread Mar 2014 #181

I said you don't go to jail for possession in CA. former9thward Mar 2014 #183

you responded to this post reddread Mar 2014 #187

LOL former9thward Mar 2014 #188

There are a lot of marijuana related things you can go to prison for besides possession tularetom Mar 2014 #202

I said possession. former9thward Mar 2014 #206

I didn't move no stinking goalposts, you're the one who brought up possession tularetom Mar 2014 #217

No, I was responding to a poster who said the guards had job security because of marijuana. former9thward Mar 2014 #220

You're a hoot! tularetom Mar 2014 #228

But they do go to prison for growing it and selling it. Iggo Mar 2014 #250

Jerry Browns complete ignorance of strains of Cannibis and it's effects on people SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #134

FU Jerry Politicalboi Mar 2014 #135

But a nation of drunks, that's just fucking A-OK NickB79 Mar 2014 #138

If by potheads he means lazy people, he's right jmowreader Mar 2014 #139

Oh brother. City Lights Mar 2014 #140

Brown exaggerates Excelsyor Mar 2014 #144

And it's also too dangerous for a nation of drunks - be they wet or dry. Example: the Bush Admin. haele Mar 2014 #189

If the governor truly believes what he's spouting theaocp Mar 2014 #204

Jerry, it is not up to you. It is up truedelphi Mar 2014 #237

Oh get a sense of perspective Governor Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #240

I will have to say Phlem Mar 2014 #247

A nation of drunks, he says. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #253