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35. War with Russia over the "autonomous region" of Crimea

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:29 AM

Mar 2014

War with Russia on account of the "Budapest Agreement," a document nobody on this board even heard of before two days ago.

Some people done lost they minds.

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We can not fucking do any fucking thing militarily versus Russia vis-a-vis Ukraine. [View all] cthulu2016 Mar 2014 OP

putin lover. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #1

...and Obama hater. L0oniX Mar 2014 #8

You would say that, Comrade Warren. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #57

What does your post mean? brush Mar 2014 #77

It means that everyone not with the war party Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #78

Just wanted to be clear brush Mar 2014 #79

Try this: bvar22 Mar 2014 #80

No shit lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #2

It is not true that the Americans have never fought Russians FarCenter Mar 2014 #3

The OP is about the post-nuclear world, but cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #5

My dad's uncle died in AEF Siberia dannward Mar 2014 #17

There you go again... Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #4

Risk? Some people are in full Red Dawn mode! Scootaloo Mar 2014 #32

One is either for democracy or isn't. There are democratic ways to remove a president. L0oniX Mar 2014 #6

One can be for democracy and against war. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #9

Ukraine's president was democratically elected. L0oniX Mar 2014 #11

Oh ok, I thought you were advocating for US military intervention. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #13

No way ...peace all the way. L0oniX Mar 2014 #14

! JaneyVee Mar 2014 #15

There's a reason why people choose coups over elections. The Ukraine election was coming up in sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #20

I think you got that backwards... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #33

Actually the Boston Tea Party was in protest to the lowering Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #38

He was impeached and fled the country. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #19

Yeah, that's what's weird, he could have stayed. 2banon Mar 2014 #22

Because he knew he'd be put on trial for ordering violence against protesters, probably. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #27

The trial would've been about his theft of billions as a rich oligarch. joshcryer Mar 2014 #51

Half the country and Crimea are calling the 'new' government illegitimate. Huge anti Kiev sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #29

He was removed by a vote of 328 to 0. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #41

You left out quite a bit that took place before the 'vote'. Thanks, but coups are not democratic sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #43

"Violence with outside influences"? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #44

An interesting thought, all this violence has given Russia an excuse to sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #70

That simple malaise Mar 2014 #54

So you are against protests. nt Progressive dog Mar 2014 #83

Oh ...your still here. L0oniX Mar 2014 #85

So you are against protests and Progressive dog Mar 2014 #86

Seeing shit that isn't being said? Hmmm... You don't live in Colorado do ya? L0oniX Mar 2014 #88

You called them mobs, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #89

Oh you equate mobs as being protests? Protests are usually organized somewhat. L0oniX Mar 2014 #90

No, You equated the protests in Ukraine with mobs Progressive dog Mar 2014 #92

Some people are always trying to start shit. L0oniX Mar 2014 #93

Yes they are, probsbly too Progressive dog Mar 2014 #95

Thank you! fujiyama Mar 2014 #7

+1,000. As good a rant as the OP. Thanks. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #18

The European war was not won by dropping nuclear bombs. amandabeech Mar 2014 #26

Dresden received the equivalent amount of explosive force through carpet bombing. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #40

So what, the reason for Hitler's defeat was ultimately his lack of ability to MillennialDem Mar 2014 #60

I was merely pointing out the amount of ordinance dropped that was non nuclear. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #72

No, the European war was won by the Russians starroute Mar 2014 #48

It's not even that much for the US and UK MillennialDem Mar 2014 #61

Well said. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #10

It's the Dr Strangelove club. They have their own Star Chamber too I guess. L0oniX Mar 2014 #12

Gotta protect those precious bodily fluids! backscatter712 Mar 2014 #81

That is not entirely true. ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #16

Jesus Christ on a crutch. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #23

No it isn't you are missing the underlying plot that this isn't Iraq TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #31

A new proxy conflict coming to a theater near you. One could easily see that happening. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #46

yeah.. how bout we don't test that theory, Joe? dionysus Mar 2014 #34

Are you serious? 'Our logistics would dictate that it be a limited mission'. And Russia would just sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #36

Wow. I've got to second Fleabiscuit. That's pretty ignorant Scootaloo Mar 2014 #39

Well Said, Scootaloo 2banon Mar 2014 #96

Sure glad you aren't involved in national defense. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #42

Dear god, this is fucking scary that Dems are all riled up to kick off some mutually assured Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #45

I just cannot get over how much that sounds like something Bill Kristol would say. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #47

This is truly a maniac thought - if I may say so -- n/t mazzarro Mar 2014 #50

I have to hand it to you folks. These responses are a riot! ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #52

You watch to many movies. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #53

You need to be in the first wave. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #58

Calling Dr Strangelove ...Dr Strangelove ...wanted at the ICBM launch pad. L0oniX Mar 2014 #67

Um, do you remember what happened last time? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #71

Yeah, I remember. That was the time I had to piss in the radiator. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #74

Team America, World's Police, eh? mr blur Mar 2014 #91

Who's yer daddy? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #21

You afraid of saggy man boobs? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #25

I scream in terror when I see them MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #64

I always pretend that's a picture of a mother about to feed her cubs. chrisa Mar 2014 #66

We could lend intelligence. joshcryer Mar 2014 #24

we would have to have some first in order to lend some. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #69

ROFL! Amen to that! 2banon Mar 2014 #97

But we sure as hell can start a Cold War over this and enrich the MIC even more... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #28

"...that does not end up with Russia being nuked "// that does not end up with Russia AND jtuck004 Mar 2014 #30

War with Russia over the "autonomous region" of Crimea alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #35

War is exciting and shit...As long as you can watch it on TV half a world away.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #37

Words have meaning. angrychair Mar 2014 #49

It begins... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #55

Obama and European leaders seem to know this. Besides relying in the military to respond pampango Mar 2014 #56

The EU is dependent on Russian energy supplies. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #59

You're right. And Russia gets most of its export earnings from oil and natural gas. pampango Mar 2014 #62

The markets today seem to have voted for "meh" w.r.t. Crimea. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #68

The "meh" may be that things have not spun out of control; it looks like Putin may just want Crimea, pampango Mar 2014 #76

Except they're in a good position at the moment. jeff47 Mar 2014 #75

To add, this 'conflict' is a predictable Russian response to Western meddling in the region... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #63

Exactly who is saying that we are? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #65

You skipped an important detail. jeff47 Mar 2014 #73

FGS--War is obsolete. Impossible. Archaic. Over. Defunct. IT CAN NO LONGER BE . librechik Mar 2014 #82

The same also applies in the other direction mythology Mar 2014 #84

IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2014 #87

Sadly, we have a warmongering crowd on DU. Rex Mar 2014 #94