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pampango

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14. Assuming the 41.5% who are not ethnic Russians vote No, it would only take a few

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 08:57 AM

Mar 2014

ethnic Russians (perhaps liberals who do not see a future with Putin's domestic policies and prefer the "humanist, socially liberal policies that exist in Europe) to lead to a surprising result in the referendum. What then? Does Putin say "The people have spoken. We are out of here."

And I'm not sure that Putin wants people in provinces/regions voting in referendums to determine what their national affiliation will be. There are many regions in Russia where ethnic Russians are a minority. I suspect the "Putin Rule" on nationality referendums only applies when and where Putin says it applies. And that is the beauty of large armies (though I think they are an incredible waste of money). Rules don't apply to you; only to countries with smaller armies.

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Ethnic make up of Crimea. [View all] another_liberal Feb 2014 OP

I worry more about their politics. Coyotl Feb 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author goziosskiy Mar 2014 #2

If there is to be a referendum the Russians should withdraw so it is fair. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

Your absolutely right. amandabeech Mar 2014 #4

It is actually impossible while the Russians are there Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author goziosskiy Mar 2014 #5

Are you in Ukraine currently? TBF Mar 2014 #7

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I don't know the history TBF Mar 2014 #13

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Agreed... but it's not like they will be far away... Adrahil Mar 2014 #6

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Following WWII, the Crimean Tatars were mostly forcibly relocated by the Soviet Union.. Adrahil Mar 2014 #16

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I would more or less agree.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #28

That would, though, be the green light for Svoboda to move into Crimea. another_liberal Mar 2014 #9

So you are now on the record for supporting the Russian occupation. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #29

I would prefer it that Ukraine would stay one country . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #8

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In this current situation . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #12

Assuming the 41.5% who are not ethnic Russians vote No, it would only take a few pampango Mar 2014 #14

Your last point, about countries with large and small armies is spot on. another_liberal Mar 2014 #17

We shall see but I doubt too many non-Russians in Crimea think that Putin pampango Mar 2014 #19

I think the Crimean referendum is to be for or against independence . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #20

The new Crimean leader changed the referendum date from May 25 (passed by parliament) to March 30 pampango Mar 2014 #21

They do need to work on the wording, or on the translation . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #23

The perception of outside influence could easily affect such a vote ... Bad Thoughts Mar 2014 #22

Yes, there will be many influences at play . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #24

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