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Kelvin Mace

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6. He should claim "stand your ground"

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:46 PM

Mar 2014

He was definitely dangerous and needed to be shot. After all he had just shot a teenage girl.

Once again, you CANNOT "accidentally" shoot yourself while cleaning a firearm. You can only shoot yourself by reckless negligence.

Instructions for cleaning a gun:

Step 1 - Engage the safety

Step 2 - Remove any live ammunition from the weapon.

Those are the first two steps to cleaning any firearm. If you follow those two steps you CANNOT shoot yourself or anyone else (this is assuming you are using a properly manufactured firearm, and not a zip gun turned out in a jail cell).

"The gun went off while I was cleaning it." is a "The dog ate my homework" excuse. It is invoked when you did something stupid instead of what you were supposed to do.

What "The gun went off while I was cleaning it." really means is "I was playing with a loaded gun without a single regard for anyone's safety."

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Man Accidentally Shoots 12-Year-Old Driving By His House, Immediately Shoots Self [View all] DonViejo Mar 2014 OP

I'm all for responsible gun owners...he is not one. He needs to give up the guns. Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #1

Does he at least lose his gun rights? ~ nt antiquie Mar 2014 #2

Oh, for a second I thought he was doing what a corrupt Japanese business leader would do snooper2 Mar 2014 #3

The responsible gun-owner has no responsibility whatsover. How could he be expected enough Mar 2014 #4

I am all for confiscating and melting down ALL guns. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #5

And what are you doing toward acheving that goal? oneshooter Mar 2014 #26

He should claim "stand your ground" Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #6

Really good reply Orrex Mar 2014 #16

+1000 Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #59

Moron with a gun. nt Javaman Mar 2014 #7

He Won't Be Charged? grilled onions Mar 2014 #8

Come on man, it's FLORIDA! B Calm Mar 2014 #56

If only the second discharge had been a head shot.... n/t TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #9

He doesn't have to be careful, he has a gun Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #10

I'm waiting for the guy.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2014 #11

Won't be fucking charged? Beaverhausen Mar 2014 #12

The father should insist that the police avebury Mar 2014 #23

The father can bring his own civil case. FBaggins Mar 2014 #32

I totally agree, and take the guy for everything avebury Mar 2014 #36

Well... his insurance will likely cover it. FBaggins Mar 2014 #38

Break a law, lose your voting rights. Shoot someone, keep your gun rights. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #13

Sounds like this guy should never been allowed to purchase a gun Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #14

Question for gun owners: Orrex Mar 2014 #15

That is odd. temporary311 Mar 2014 #19

Strikes me as the kind of guy... Orrex Mar 2014 #20

Um NO sarisataka Mar 2014 #24

That's an accurate description of my process also. Scuba Mar 2014 #67

He was playing with it, showing off for his friend, most likely. Mariana Mar 2014 #39

I sensed the same thing. Two shots, two hits. Orrex Mar 2014 #41

Even gun fanciers would support taking this guy's guns, no? Kingofalldems Mar 2014 #17

I guess I fall under fancier... sarisataka Mar 2014 #25

Gun laws are already quite loose, it seems to me. IveWornAHundredPants Mar 2014 #55

Florida gun laws are extremely loose. In a just state he would lose his guns. B Calm Mar 2014 #57

It's not guns that kill people... louis-t Mar 2014 #18

yes i noticed that Enrique Mar 2014 #21

Double headsmack. louis-t Mar 2014 #22

I think "cleaning my gun when it discharged" is an excuse to escape embarrassment or liability KansDem Mar 2014 #28

Makes sense. louis-t Mar 2014 #30

But before you clean it you need to unload it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #40

Seems fairly elementary, doesn't it? 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #44

Good point. johnp3907 Mar 2014 #64

Maybe it was a warning shot Politicalboi Mar 2014 #27

I live right around the block from this guy, Not Me Mar 2014 #29

wow, interesting! do you know him? renate Mar 2014 #48

As I said, the entire neighborhood wants answers. Not Me Mar 2014 #51

SO GET THIS, the victim isn't prosecuting. Not Me Mar 2014 #58

I'm surprised that's up to the victim renate Mar 2014 #60

Legally, that is absolute rubbish. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #69

Thanks for sharing that. Keep us posted Beaverhausen Mar 2014 #49

Clearly the gun felt threatened by the way the idiot was handling it. Rex Mar 2014 #31

"the weapon discharged"? Charge him uppityperson Mar 2014 #33

Right. How have we gotten so brainwashed that this point is not obvious? (nt) enough Mar 2014 #66

UNLOAD YOUR FUCKING GUN BEFORE YOU CLEAN IT. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #34

See post #28. johnp3907 Mar 2014 #65

I can honestly say WovenGems Mar 2014 #35

Rules of gun handling, this guy needs nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #37

An encore performance is required. 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #42

This jackal does not deserve to own any gun. Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #43

Idiots like him should be kept 3 miles from other people jsr Mar 2014 #45

Not surprised if the little girl that got shot is black "A police report said he won't be charged" uponit7771 Mar 2014 #46

This is on my list....# 10 Sancho Mar 2014 #47

I like your list. 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #62

That would be a good one too... Sancho Mar 2014 #63

yet another "responsible gun owner" TimeToEvolve Mar 2014 #50

Correction: Jamastiene Mar 2014 #52

BOY! Do we need more teachers like THAT! napi21 Mar 2014 #53

He won't be charged for negligence for shooting a little girl but Jake Stern Mar 2014 #54

reckless endangerment, onethatcares Mar 2014 #61

finger off the trigger... ileus Mar 2014 #68