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gollygee

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65. Not really

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:04 PM

Mar 2014

a few people asked about the technicalities of being born in a US territory, which was silly, but even that seemed to be a response to the questioning of Obama's citizenship.

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White Privilege is real, even accounting for wealth, status, power or popularity [View all] CreekDog Mar 2014 OP

So, Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #1

he's as American and Christian as any other president CreekDog Mar 2014 #4

Questioned by whom? CANDO Mar 2014 #30

so segregation wasn't racist unless all whites supported it? CreekDog Mar 2014 #31

I don't expect shit from you, but that's what I got. CANDO Mar 2014 #37

you said the stuff against Obama wasn't racist unless it was from all whites CreekDog Mar 2014 #39

I didn't say that.....you self admittedly equivicated that. CANDO Mar 2014 #66

Why the heck do you have so much fear that somebody wants something from you!??! bravenak Mar 2014 #51

he's afraid somebody will want his Mantovani records CreekDog Mar 2014 #104

Ah ha! bravenak Mar 2014 #107

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #57

Who is "freaking out"? CANDO Mar 2014 #75

New immigrant groups faced discrimination gollygee Mar 2014 #59

And I personally consider any American... CANDO Mar 2014 #78

Most of white America didn't vote for him gollygee Mar 2014 #105

I did not say most of white America. CANDO Mar 2014 #141

Where did he mention Jim Crow? nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #127

So, Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #5

Eggzaclee Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #8

Why does having a parent from Kenya make your citizenship questioned gollygee Mar 2014 #11

Here's a better question Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #13

Political candidates who are white do not have to deal with racially motivated attacks gollygee Mar 2014 #16

To not be a victim of racism is not privilege Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #21

I said "even when they have a parent from another country." gollygee Mar 2014 #28

I'm having a hard time believing the first story Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #36

It was a kid gollygee Mar 2014 #38

You said the mother did not correct the little girl Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #48

No, she didn't gollygee Mar 2014 #63

Maybe you looked American so no one had to ask Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #67

What does "look American" mean? gollygee Mar 2014 #69

Really, that means white Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #70

I think it's a general feeling in the US gollygee Mar 2014 #71

"looked American"? CreekDog Mar 2014 #110

Yes looked American Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #121

what does an American look like? CreekDog Mar 2014 #123

Wow Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #124

i have left the country, many times CreekDog Mar 2014 #130

Damn Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #131

That really clammed you up, eh? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #125

yes in fact, it is a privilege CreekDog Mar 2014 #32

Born wealthy is to be privileged. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #82

if they stand across the street from some white kids CreekDog Mar 2014 #111

To many variables Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #126

you grew up in the South, but just can't be convinced that racism is harmful across the board CreekDog Mar 2014 #128

That makes no sense at all Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #129

i've been out of the country lots of times CreekDog Mar 2014 #132

You said race I said nationality Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #133

so you're saying that the "American" nationality looks a certain color? CreekDog Mar 2014 #135

No I didn't say that. I said look American Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #136

"look" American? do they wear flannel? CreekDog Mar 2014 #138

The first time I had a conversation about Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #140

Oh and Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #134

Yes it is. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #62

Would you elaborate? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #81

I think you're missing both the implied and the obvious qualifier "all other things being equal" LanternWaste Mar 2014 #83

You lost me. Sorry. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #84

Whatever disadvantages a white person has, their lot in life would be worse if they were also black. cyberswede Mar 2014 #91

I totally understand Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #97

Ok, so it must be the term itself that is the issue. cyberswede Mar 2014 #100

Thanks. I read a little of that thread Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #106

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #98

Well said! That breaks it down perfectly. nt cyberswede Mar 2014 #101

Does this require total commitment? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #143

he lost you because you don't know what you're talking about CreekDog Mar 2014 #113

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #119

so privilege goes both ways, is that what you're saying? CreekDog Mar 2014 #108

Damn. Wasn't listening and I missed it. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #109

you've given up CreekDog Mar 2014 #116

DUzy Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #118

You joined well after DUzy's stopped CreekDog Mar 2014 #137

No shit Sherlock Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #139

You know it does. bravenak Mar 2014 #58

What about the rest of the white people? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #60

They are on our side. bravenak Mar 2014 #74

I was listen to gasbag Limbaugh this morning. According to him Cleita Mar 2014 #25

And this: "You Can Make A Black Woman The First Lady, But That Doesn't Mean She Will Have Any Class" cyberswede Mar 2014 #2

It exists 1awake Mar 2014 #3

yes, his American-ness is questioned, because of his race, this ancestry CreekDog Mar 2014 #6

So that helped me get a higher salary Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #9

White priviledge did no such thing... 1awake Mar 2014 #12

no, you don't get it. it's a privilege to not face that. CreekDog Mar 2014 #15

"it's a privilege not to face that" sufrommich Mar 2014 #18

Did you even read what I wrote?? 1awake Mar 2014 #22

Nope Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #23

lol well that clears it up. 1awake Mar 2014 #24

I think the logic is: White privilegde exists for all whites. It is racist. Whites are racists The Straight Story Mar 2014 #27

I dunno... I think people latch on to terms 1awake Mar 2014 #29

Yeah, we all knew there were racists who hated Obama before The Straight Story Mar 2014 #35

yes, it exists for all whites CreekDog Mar 2014 #45

Oh, I understand it. I also get that by virtue of being born here in the US we have privilege The Straight Story Mar 2014 #61

No you don't GET IT. CreekDog Mar 2014 #72

Interesting The Straight Story Mar 2014 #77

what privilege are you saying I have? CreekDog Mar 2014 #99

Even more interesting The Straight Story Mar 2014 #112

you talked about white privilege and you said that i have privilege too, what PRIVILEGE? CreekDog Mar 2014 #114

Still not sure how that is relevant here, but if it makes you feel better that is ok The Straight Story Mar 2014 #120

No CANDO Mar 2014 #50

K&R redqueen Mar 2014 #7

Karl Malone is wealthy, high-status, and popular KamaAina Mar 2014 #10

He probably gets pulled over because he's black man driving a Mercedes. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #20

?? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #26

Ummm... Nice find.... WTF??? n/t Fix The Stupid Mar 2014 #33

I had the same reaction. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #34

Because a DU comment ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #43

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #52

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #55

All your enlightenment and our backs and forth Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #64

Come on, you survived the jury Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #79

and it's as true as it was 5 years ago and the poster is a real person that many of us vouch for CreekDog Mar 2014 #47

I'm sorry I wasn't listening, could you re-post? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #49

?? CreekDog Mar 2014 #86

I'm going to send you my picture for your hope chest Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #93

Perhaps by '08 the cops had figured it out KamaAina Mar 2014 #87

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #92

?? CreekDog Mar 2014 #88

That was funny! I can see why you kept that one Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #94

why did you try to make an issue of KamaAina saying the same thing as he did some years back? CreekDog Mar 2014 #96

Maybe he gets pulled over because he's tall. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #41

I had to go vent ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #46

Disagree JJChambers Mar 2014 #14

the hate is largely attributed to his "other-ness" CreekDog Mar 2014 #17

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #54

There's no doubt it and it becomes really apparent when you are on a job Cleita Mar 2014 #19

I've seen this too gollygee Mar 2014 #42

Your boss was glossing over his racism. I was blatantly told Cleita Mar 2014 #56

^^^This. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #44

Thanks for trying Creekdog ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #40

thank you CreekDog Mar 2014 #117

Your general point is spot on. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #53

Not really gollygee Mar 2014 #65

Many crazies were questioning his citizenship. Including here. Just as many crazies question Obamas. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #68

not because of how he looked! CreekDog Mar 2014 #73

Dead on. I didn't think it through. Allthough I was never questioning... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #76

Okay. Now what? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #80

I think there's a precise and relevant difference between LanternWaste Mar 2014 #89

+1 Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #90

I don't like the expression "white privilege" for a variety of reasons. Vattel Mar 2014 #85

in fairness, JFK faced similar accusations of dual loyalty and/or belonging to the wrong religion foo_bar Mar 2014 #95

If you've seen the past Catholic bashing going on right here on DU, it is Cleita Mar 2014 #103

K&R Jamastiene Mar 2014 #102

Narrow minds are hard to hide. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #115

Are you kidding Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #122

Look around man CreekDog Mar 2014 #142