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77. Interesting

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 04:24 PM

Mar 2014

If not a little disjointed.

Are you denying you have privilege yourself? Privilege has as it's base power and exists in many different forms. In some cases it is large in scale, in others much smaller.

If you focus on one while denying the others are you really trying to educate on the core ideal or just one you find most useful?

The world over we face the inherent problems brought about by privilege different groups have created for themselves (whether seen or not by those who created it/benefit the most by it). At the top are the wealthy and powerful who take care of each other - run a company into the ground? No problem, another one will snatch you up at a high salary because you are one of them. Want the latest cell phone cheap? No problem, you live in a country where you farm out the labor and parts to virtual slave labor so get a new one, throw away the old one, those people will make more and make it cheap for you.

And I don't deny science on smoking, I do question some numbers but at the core of my argument it has always been giving people a choice about which establishment they choose to drink in. Choices involve having power to make decisions instead of someone benevolently making them for you.

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White Privilege is real, even accounting for wealth, status, power or popularity [View all] CreekDog Mar 2014 OP

So, Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #1

he's as American and Christian as any other president CreekDog Mar 2014 #4

Questioned by whom? CANDO Mar 2014 #30

so segregation wasn't racist unless all whites supported it? CreekDog Mar 2014 #31

I don't expect shit from you, but that's what I got. CANDO Mar 2014 #37

you said the stuff against Obama wasn't racist unless it was from all whites CreekDog Mar 2014 #39

I didn't say that.....you self admittedly equivicated that. CANDO Mar 2014 #66

Why the heck do you have so much fear that somebody wants something from you!??! bravenak Mar 2014 #51

he's afraid somebody will want his Mantovani records CreekDog Mar 2014 #104

Ah ha! bravenak Mar 2014 #107

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #57

Who is "freaking out"? CANDO Mar 2014 #75

New immigrant groups faced discrimination gollygee Mar 2014 #59

And I personally consider any American... CANDO Mar 2014 #78

Most of white America didn't vote for him gollygee Mar 2014 #105

I did not say most of white America. CANDO Mar 2014 #141

Where did he mention Jim Crow? nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #127

So, Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #5

Eggzaclee Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #8

Why does having a parent from Kenya make your citizenship questioned gollygee Mar 2014 #11

Here's a better question Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #13

Political candidates who are white do not have to deal with racially motivated attacks gollygee Mar 2014 #16

To not be a victim of racism is not privilege Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #21

I said "even when they have a parent from another country." gollygee Mar 2014 #28

I'm having a hard time believing the first story Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #36

It was a kid gollygee Mar 2014 #38

You said the mother did not correct the little girl Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #48

No, she didn't gollygee Mar 2014 #63

Maybe you looked American so no one had to ask Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #67

What does "look American" mean? gollygee Mar 2014 #69

Really, that means white Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #70

I think it's a general feeling in the US gollygee Mar 2014 #71

"looked American"? CreekDog Mar 2014 #110

Yes looked American Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #121

what does an American look like? CreekDog Mar 2014 #123

Wow Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #124

i have left the country, many times CreekDog Mar 2014 #130

Damn Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #131

That really clammed you up, eh? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #125

yes in fact, it is a privilege CreekDog Mar 2014 #32

Born wealthy is to be privileged. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #82

if they stand across the street from some white kids CreekDog Mar 2014 #111

To many variables Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #126

you grew up in the South, but just can't be convinced that racism is harmful across the board CreekDog Mar 2014 #128

That makes no sense at all Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #129

i've been out of the country lots of times CreekDog Mar 2014 #132

You said race I said nationality Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #133

so you're saying that the "American" nationality looks a certain color? CreekDog Mar 2014 #135

No I didn't say that. I said look American Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #136

"look" American? do they wear flannel? CreekDog Mar 2014 #138

The first time I had a conversation about Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #140

Oh and Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #134

Yes it is. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #62

Would you elaborate? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #81

I think you're missing both the implied and the obvious qualifier "all other things being equal" LanternWaste Mar 2014 #83

You lost me. Sorry. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #84

Whatever disadvantages a white person has, their lot in life would be worse if they were also black. cyberswede Mar 2014 #91

I totally understand Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #97

Ok, so it must be the term itself that is the issue. cyberswede Mar 2014 #100

Thanks. I read a little of that thread Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #106

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #98

Well said! That breaks it down perfectly. nt cyberswede Mar 2014 #101

Does this require total commitment? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #143

he lost you because you don't know what you're talking about CreekDog Mar 2014 #113

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #119

so privilege goes both ways, is that what you're saying? CreekDog Mar 2014 #108

Damn. Wasn't listening and I missed it. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #109

you've given up CreekDog Mar 2014 #116

DUzy Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #118

You joined well after DUzy's stopped CreekDog Mar 2014 #137

No shit Sherlock Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #139

You know it does. bravenak Mar 2014 #58

What about the rest of the white people? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #60

They are on our side. bravenak Mar 2014 #74

I was listen to gasbag Limbaugh this morning. According to him Cleita Mar 2014 #25

And this: "You Can Make A Black Woman The First Lady, But That Doesn't Mean She Will Have Any Class" cyberswede Mar 2014 #2

It exists 1awake Mar 2014 #3

yes, his American-ness is questioned, because of his race, this ancestry CreekDog Mar 2014 #6

So that helped me get a higher salary Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #9

White priviledge did no such thing... 1awake Mar 2014 #12

no, you don't get it. it's a privilege to not face that. CreekDog Mar 2014 #15

"it's a privilege not to face that" sufrommich Mar 2014 #18

Did you even read what I wrote?? 1awake Mar 2014 #22

Nope Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #23

lol well that clears it up. 1awake Mar 2014 #24

I think the logic is: White privilegde exists for all whites. It is racist. Whites are racists The Straight Story Mar 2014 #27

I dunno... I think people latch on to terms 1awake Mar 2014 #29

Yeah, we all knew there were racists who hated Obama before The Straight Story Mar 2014 #35

yes, it exists for all whites CreekDog Mar 2014 #45

Oh, I understand it. I also get that by virtue of being born here in the US we have privilege The Straight Story Mar 2014 #61

No you don't GET IT. CreekDog Mar 2014 #72

Interesting The Straight Story Mar 2014 #77

what privilege are you saying I have? CreekDog Mar 2014 #99

Even more interesting The Straight Story Mar 2014 #112

you talked about white privilege and you said that i have privilege too, what PRIVILEGE? CreekDog Mar 2014 #114

Still not sure how that is relevant here, but if it makes you feel better that is ok The Straight Story Mar 2014 #120

No CANDO Mar 2014 #50

K&R redqueen Mar 2014 #7

Karl Malone is wealthy, high-status, and popular KamaAina Mar 2014 #10

He probably gets pulled over because he's black man driving a Mercedes. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #20

?? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #26

Ummm... Nice find.... WTF??? n/t Fix The Stupid Mar 2014 #33

I had the same reaction. Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #34

Because a DU comment ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #43

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #52

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #55

All your enlightenment and our backs and forth Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #64

Come on, you survived the jury Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #79

and it's as true as it was 5 years ago and the poster is a real person that many of us vouch for CreekDog Mar 2014 #47

I'm sorry I wasn't listening, could you re-post? Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #49

?? CreekDog Mar 2014 #86

I'm going to send you my picture for your hope chest Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #93

Perhaps by '08 the cops had figured it out KamaAina Mar 2014 #87

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #92

?? CreekDog Mar 2014 #88

That was funny! I can see why you kept that one Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #94

why did you try to make an issue of KamaAina saying the same thing as he did some years back? CreekDog Mar 2014 #96

Maybe he gets pulled over because he's tall. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #41

I had to go vent ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #46

Disagree JJChambers Mar 2014 #14

the hate is largely attributed to his "other-ness" CreekDog Mar 2014 #17

are you white? CreekDog Mar 2014 #54

There's no doubt it and it becomes really apparent when you are on a job Cleita Mar 2014 #19

I've seen this too gollygee Mar 2014 #42

Your boss was glossing over his racism. I was blatantly told Cleita Mar 2014 #56

^^^This. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #44

Thanks for trying Creekdog ismnotwasm Mar 2014 #40

thank you CreekDog Mar 2014 #117

Your general point is spot on. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #53

Not really gollygee Mar 2014 #65

Many crazies were questioning his citizenship. Including here. Just as many crazies question Obamas. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #68

not because of how he looked! CreekDog Mar 2014 #73

Dead on. I didn't think it through. Allthough I was never questioning... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #76

Okay. Now what? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #80

I think there's a precise and relevant difference between LanternWaste Mar 2014 #89

+1 Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #90

I don't like the expression "white privilege" for a variety of reasons. Vattel Mar 2014 #85

in fairness, JFK faced similar accusations of dual loyalty and/or belonging to the wrong religion foo_bar Mar 2014 #95

If you've seen the past Catholic bashing going on right here on DU, it is Cleita Mar 2014 #103

K&R Jamastiene Mar 2014 #102

Narrow minds are hard to hide. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #115

Are you kidding Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #122

Look around man CreekDog Mar 2014 #142