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nikto

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90. True 'dis...

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Tue Mar 4, 2014, 11:32 PM

Mar 2014

Unmistakeably, what we call a cosmic perspective is distinctly liberal/progressive and not
regressive or inflexibly reactionary.

That which is sincerely "cosmic", has a natural liberal bias.

Liberal:
"Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
Generous or freely-giving."

Cosmic Liberals: Carl Sagan, Tyson, Gene Roddenberry, Einstein, MLK, Chomsky, Chris Hedges,
Helen Caldicott, Arnie Gundersen, Dorothy Day, Oppenheimer, John Lennon,...?

It is a proud list. And much longer than I could ever remember.

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I absolutely think this guy has filled the shoes Carl Sagan left behind [View all] nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 OP

A+ Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #1

Neil deGrasse Tyson is a peach. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #2

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #4

We need to keep him front and center in GD whenever possible. Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #7

Oh there is plenty more where that came from nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #9

I know. He's on my twitter feed... Luminous Animal Mar 2014 #10

I prefer the specks of sand and to think of planets nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #11

Fundies are beyond help too. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #92

Religious fanatics = Fundies nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #93

He just went on my bucket list tavalon Mar 2014 #48

And now he is on mine too nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #58

yes, he is! shireen Mar 2014 #75

Neil deGrasse Tyson spoke about that very thing earlier. longship Mar 2014 #3

Well, you know why I wrote that. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #5

I agree. Can hardly wait for next Sunday. longship Mar 2014 #6

I know nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #8

Link to Tyson's commentary on Sagan's influence on him. Skidmore Mar 2014 #22

This video is fantastic and amazing. life long demo Mar 2014 #25

Wow! I was the biggest Sagan fan growing up and began college with ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #42

paying it forward BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #56

Wonderful video clip! Brewinblue Mar 2014 #69

Yeah Skidmore - Thanks! Plucketeer Mar 2014 #117

He's great G_j Mar 2014 #12

mmmmmmmmmmmmm Skittles Mar 2014 #13

I was fairly active on an astronomy oriented forum on 9/11 Fumesucker Mar 2014 #14

The 'lizard brain' is something I have come to recognize.... alittlelark Mar 2014 #16

Yep. I had people tell me as much in literally the same breath as we "have to rescue the Iraqi...... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #34

When they say "...because Saddam gassed the Kurds", they forget to add lob1 Mar 2014 #68

So many concerned with Saddam gassing the Kurds, Maedhros Mar 2014 #82

+1 iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #88

He has more humor and 'salt' alittlelark Mar 2014 #15

I knew who you were referring to passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #17

So did I. Every time I see he's a guest on some show, I watch. calimary Mar 2014 #114

It's so refreshing to see public figures speak this way. Firebrand Gary Mar 2014 #18

I can't think of a better successor to Carl Sagen Jasana Mar 2014 #19

+++++ 200000000000 or more, if I get DU right - I'm old. raven mad Mar 2014 #20

No doubt about that Naddy madokie Mar 2014 #21

Money and fundamentalist religion, I migh say.. pangaia Mar 2014 #81

I suppose you're right on that madokie Mar 2014 #89

I've found Tyson to say some inaccurate things. Chathamization Mar 2014 #23

Some 'thing' which you can not specify, cite, refute....but you are certain you are correct Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #27

same with the creationists they also heard some inaccurate things and turned off leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #29

Wow. Find this guy to be inaccurate and suddenly you're a creationist who thinks they're "more of a Chathamization Mar 2014 #31

What has he said that's inaccurate? Are you an astrophysicist? Avalux Mar 2014 #41

Missed post #33, did ya? N/T Chathamization Mar 2014 #55

I replied to #33 before you posted this. Avalux Mar 2014 #70

So I guess you missed #51. And perhaps the video. N/T Chathamization Mar 2014 #77

Nope, sure didn't. You misunderstood Tyson. I'm done here. n/t Avalux Mar 2014 #78

Here's what was actually said: "Your problem is that the whole saucer spins and that's what a Chathamization Mar 2014 #80

well i didnt say u were one ,only that creationists find scientists to be innacurate b/c the world leftyohiolib Mar 2014 #53

Bill Maher's critics include creationists Chathamization Mar 2014 #54

Links please! nt Logical Mar 2014 #30

Here you go: Chathamization Mar 2014 #33

Spinning flying saucers would interfere with their navigation. RC Mar 2014 #37

Except he�s not saying it�s a bad design, he�s saying it breaks the law of physics Chathamization Mar 2014 #50

The moon's orbit around the earth is not a perfect circle either. RC Mar 2014 #52

You didn't pay attention to the context of Tyson's answer. Avalux Mar 2014 #43

Tyson says that the rotating ship breaks the law of physics Chathamization Mar 2014 #51

Watched the video Gore1FL Mar 2014 #72

"Your problem is that the whole saucer spins and that's what a fool would build." Chathamization Mar 2014 #74

Interesting. So how many PhDs in astrophysics do you have? phleshdef Mar 2014 #100

Clearly, a PhD vaccinates you from being able to say innaccurate things Chathamization Mar 2014 #115

It certainly gives Tyson more credit than you. phleshdef Mar 2014 #120

Turning off your critical thinking skills as soon as you see �PhD� is a good way to quickly fill Chathamization Mar 2014 #121

The point was, Tyson is highly credentialed and widely recognized as legit. phleshdef Mar 2014 #124

As is James Watson. N/T Chathamization Mar 2014 #125

"Science entertainer?" Nevernose Mar 2014 #99

The similarities are endless.... Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #122

I have yet to hear him say anything in accurate. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #46

Who would I trust more: an anonymous poster on a message board or Dr. Tyson? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #113

Truly the heart of science: which person should I uncritically believe? Chathamization Mar 2014 #116

Science isn't about believing. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #118

Exactly. The foundation _should_ be the evidence, not trusting a particular media personality.N/T Chathamization Mar 2014 #119

Sagan was a childhood hero... Adrahil Mar 2014 #24

I think that's true shenmue Mar 2014 #26

It is life changing. N/T deathrind Mar 2014 #28

I like Brian Cox as well... Tireman Mar 2014 #32

Him too! pipi_k Mar 2014 #38

He is good too. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #44

I figured it was going to be him! nt raccoon Mar 2014 #35

Neil DeGrasse Tyson and Michio Kaku are awesome chrisa Mar 2014 #36

Oh yeah... pipi_k Mar 2014 #39

Kaku writes very clearly in his popular science books nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #49

Love'em both to pieces Leith Mar 2014 #62

He's the guy playing with the concepts of time I believe. 1awake Mar 2014 #40

I love this guy. If I weren't 74, I'd have his baby. Cleita Mar 2014 #45

I've only seen him on Bill Maher postatomic Mar 2014 #47

brilliant post, nadin BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #57

I remember SDI all too well MisterP Mar 2014 #59

The quote is so spot on damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #60

NdGT is a gem amidst the garbage that is "infotainment" in the 21st century Little_Wing Mar 2014 #61

I hear you, but once you start down that road, you'd might as well through away your TV. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #63

I think they are both great in their own rights. Thanks for posting Nadin. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #64

Shh, ignored might get ideas!!!! nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #65

LOL. You have a point. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #66

Thanks Nadin Brewinblue Mar 2014 #67

K&R! Phlem Mar 2014 #71

yes, i knew who u were referring to b4 clicking thread. he's become the go to sci guy Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #73

Yes he is. He's another brilliiant scientist with the common touch Warpy Mar 2014 #76

!!! Fawke Em Mar 2014 #79

wow sad-cafe Mar 2014 #83

how does a country that gives the world this guy also produce limpballs? Doctor_J Mar 2014 #84

That is an extremely good question nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #85

But. . .but. . .but. . .he's black. Shouldn't he be stealing my TV or selling drugs? Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #86

Well... walking away from the funny and massive sarcasm nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #87

True 'dis... nikto Mar 2014 #90

Apropos of Tyson's point, he has also said: Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #91

Thinking back to college... winter is coming Mar 2014 #94

I don't know drmeow Mar 2014 #95

When Cosmos re-airs there are going to be nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #96

If people had a cosmic perspective they wouldn't buy into these silly Earth-centric religions. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #97

I think he has more influence, but he's nothing like Sagan. joshcryer Mar 2014 #98

Tyson, Cosmos co-creator and Sagan's widow have been working together for YEARS to get this going. phleshdef Mar 2014 #104

"Nova ScienceNow" was really bad though. Even with him on it. joshcryer Mar 2014 #109

It is great to have such a positive role model for kids. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #101

Absolutely. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #102

Just my opinion - obviously - but I think Carl Sagan would have BobTheSubgenius Mar 2014 #103

Now that you mention that, might be generational. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #105

Look up the letter he sent... deathrind Mar 2014 #106

Thank you for this Amazing Post.... CherokeeDem Mar 2014 #107

Been working my way through nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #108

Tyson > Sagan. nt. NYC_SKP Mar 2014 #110

I can't go that far Brainstormy Mar 2014 #111

kick glinda Mar 2014 #112

However, he seems too tall Wise Child Mar 2014 #123

I like him get the red out Mar 2014 #126

K&R! I couldn't agree more. myrna minx Mar 2014 #127

He's responsible for demoting Pluto NewJeffCT Mar 2014 #128

So many inside nerd jokes in the Big Bang Theory. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #130

Tyson is mighty cool, but Sagan was on another level paulkienitz Mar 2014 #129