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HuckleB

(35,773 posts) Wed Mar 5, 2014, 12:57 AM Mar 2014

Science is good. Anti-science propaganda is bad. DU should know this! [View all]

Alas, too many DUers will "recommend" the most bullshit nonsense without thought. As, has been noted on the Health forum, as people glom on to a ludicrous "reiew" in regard to GMOs...

Look, GMOs are a mixed bag, but the religious attacks against them tend to be, well, ridiculous. Progressives should know better. Here's a response to a recent BS "review" of the literature. The fact that the "review" got play at DU is rather sad.

I'm wondering if pro-science DUers will support an OP that shows reality more than the anti-science DUers pushed the BS.

It's a fair test for DU. What matters most?

Does Glyphosate Cause Celiac Disease? Actually, No!
http://ultimateglutenfree.com/2014/02/does-glyphosate-cause-celiac-disease-actually-no/

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Science is good. Anti-science propaganda is bad. DU should know this! [View all] HuckleB Mar 2014 OP

And bad science, is corporate propaganda n'est ce pas? Drew Richards Mar 2014 #1

? HuckleB Mar 2014 #2

Eat it up, Huck Berlum Mar 2014 #28

Thanks for the example of blind faith in anti-science routines. HuckleB Mar 2014 #32

why posting that is anti-science wisechoice Mar 2014 #77

It's a logical fallacy, and hit has no point in the discussion here. HuckleB Mar 2014 #78

C'est vrai. pnwmom Mar 2014 #81

Two words that anger me: "Natural News" Archae Mar 2014 #3

Both are Libertarian BS sites, and anti-progressive to the core. HuckleB Mar 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Mar 2014 #11

Surely, you're joking. HuckleB Mar 2014 #13

Oops I misinterpreted your post alp227 Mar 2014 #27

My post was clearly not clear. HuckleB Mar 2014 #33

You're talking about naturalnews and ageofautism, right?.... SidDithers Mar 2014 #23

That's correct. Thanks! HuckleB Mar 2014 #24

Jenny McCarthy is now hawking e-cigs. GoneOffShore Mar 2014 #60

WOW! HuckleB Mar 2014 #117

I'm pretty fond of LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #98

+1,000,000,000 .... 000 HuckleB Mar 2014 #121

Here are a couple of blogs you might be interested in: LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #124

I'm confused: you refer to a "fair test," but your post is laden with leading petronius Mar 2014 #5

Whatever. HuckleB Mar 2014 #6

I'll REC it for you, then. Feral Child Mar 2014 #43

You could always find an actual pro-science thread to rec. n/t Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #65

Awwwwww. HuckleB Mar 2014 #91

You should invent a vaccine for that RobertEarl Mar 2014 #7

What? HuckleB Mar 2014 #9

I find the anti-GMO hysteria to be more than a bit ridiculous, for sure. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #8

Exactly... SidDithers Mar 2014 #25

Shilling for Monsanto is bad. U4ikLefty Mar 2014 #10

Shilling for anti-science BS is much worse. HuckleB Mar 2014 #14

Sadly, it's where progressive values clash. alp227 Mar 2014 #12

Nice post, you scientific materialist. Orrex Mar 2014 #15

Ah, LOL! HuckleB Mar 2014 #46

Some people can't recognize the bad logic with hyping woo. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #16

The author at the link is so-so The Straight Story Mar 2014 #17

In this instance, the issue also goes to the fact that the reviewers... HuckleB Mar 2014 #20

You are so passionate on this issue! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #18

I just wish progressives would be more critical of bad propaganda. HuckleB Mar 2014 #115

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #19

The concept that we shouldn't genetically modify anything is silly. chrisa Mar 2014 #21

The problem is with regulation wisechoice Mar 2014 #22

Regulation? Sure we live in a country that just loves more regulation. upaloopa Mar 2014 #58

Say what? HuckleB Mar 2014 #118

DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2014 #26

As is zealotry. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #29

And that's a good part of my point. HuckleB Mar 2014 #30

Smoking isn't bad for you either, LOL Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #31

I'm actually working against blind-faith propaganda. HuckleB Mar 2014 #34

You don't need to convince wisechoice Mar 2014 #35

Ah, so you're going to go with the "slippery slope" pseudoscience routine. HuckleB Mar 2014 #36

If being critic is pseudoscience then be it. wisechoice Mar 2014 #62

I've challenged myself. HuckleB Mar 2014 #72

"you're either wit us or agin us!" tkmorris Mar 2014 #40

Thumbs up wisechoice Mar 2014 #63

You clearly missed the point of that response. HuckleB Mar 2014 #73

There's a lot of woo that gets a pass here. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #37

K & R. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #38

Please give me the rest of the list that upaloopa Mar 2014 #39

You can choose however you want to choose. HuckleB Mar 2014 #41

I disagree upaloopa Mar 2014 #47

You're choosing a religious view over a science-based humanity is not progressive. HuckleB Mar 2014 #48

All you do is label things. Your labels do not equal truth upaloopa Mar 2014 #49

Actually, that's what you're doing. HuckleB Mar 2014 #51

Humans cannot improve on nature. All we can do is destroy it upaloopa Mar 2014 #50

Thanks. HuckleB Mar 2014 #53

Calling me names and again labeling my ideas don't upaloopa Mar 2014 #57

This post is a perfect example of the point of the OP -nt Bonx Mar 2014 #64

Still doesn't make the OP truth upaloopa Mar 2014 #79

The OP merely shows that a non-scientific paper is bogus. HuckleB Mar 2014 #85

I really don't know why they think GMO is the miracle science wisechoice Mar 2014 #67

You do realize that the India suicide claim is bogus, right? HuckleB Mar 2014 #71

You seem to think that you're offering something else. HuckleB Mar 2014 #69

Is this true? wisechoice Mar 2014 #74

It probably is. HuckleB Mar 2014 #75

And is this conclusion valid wisechoice Mar 2014 #82

It could be, but there's a lot more to that story, if you'd check the link I offered. HuckleB Mar 2014 #83

So there is debate on GMO's wisechoice Mar 2014 #92

Ah, so you're choosing to ignore consensus by noting cherry picked studies. HuckleB Mar 2014 #93

I have open mind wisechoice Mar 2014 #99

I do. You claim to do the same, but this post actually speaks otherwise. HuckleB Mar 2014 #102

It is too bad you think so highly of your opinion. upaloopa Mar 2014 #84

Ah, so popularity is all that matters, to you. HuckleB Mar 2014 #86

The trouble with your thinking is that you upaloopa Mar 2014 #94

The trouble with many of your posts is that you put words in my mouth... HuckleB Mar 2014 #100

What science? wisechoice Mar 2014 #66

You keep telling yourself that. HuckleB Mar 2014 #70

Another article that shows the ludicrous nature of the "review" in question. HuckleB Mar 2014 #42

While I'm on your side in this debate, ugh...the Examiner. I know people ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #52

The Examiner is an oddball outfit. HuckleB Mar 2014 #54

I know them all too well as a freelance writer. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #55

Got it. HuckleB Mar 2014 #56

Are you in favor of labeling allowing consumers to know exactly what is in the food they eat? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #44

I'm in favor of labeling food to let consumers to know what exactly is in their food. HuckleB Mar 2014 #45

What happens when GMO has replaced all natural occurring seeds? upaloopa Mar 2014 #59

The mission is accomplished wisechoice Mar 2014 #68

Got hyperbole? HuckleB Mar 2014 #89

You know as well as I that GMO mixed with natural seeds upaloopa Mar 2014 #96

You know perfectly that other forms of seed modificaton have already done similar things, HuckleB Mar 2014 #103

Look we don't just accept taking risks we don't have to upaloopa Mar 2014 #105

You seem to think that one form of modification is magically more risky than others. HuckleB Mar 2014 #111

That's our future if we don't stand up to this upaloopa Mar 2014 #95

When will that happen? HuckleB Mar 2014 #87

You don't make other seeds you grow them! upaloopa Mar 2014 #97

Seriously, that's your response? HuckleB Mar 2014 #101

Celiac is genetic, if I'm right sakabatou Mar 2014 #61

Celiac is genetic but not everyone with the genes develops it -- usually a trigger is involved. pnwmom Mar 2014 #80

The bottom line is that this "review" is all correlation without any way to connect... HuckleB Mar 2014 #90

I stopped reading since the author's very first claim wasn't supported by his own link. pnwmom Mar 2014 #76

IOW, your usual routine. HuckleB Mar 2014 #88

I am a little confused janlyn Mar 2014 #106

She cherry picked one thing and then ignored the bigger picture. HuckleB Mar 2014 #109

It's hardly "cherry-picking" to point out that the FIRST statistic cited isn't supported pnwmom Mar 2014 #107

It is cherry picking. HuckleB Mar 2014 #110

"I've always shown why you're not being honest. You have not." pnwmom Mar 2014 #113

I love this response. HuckleB Mar 2014 #114

Since logical fallacies are your thing... HuckleB Mar 2014 #116

Way to go! pnwmom Mar 2014 #119

I'm on point, as usual, as you well know. HuckleB Mar 2014 #120

Agree totally! LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #104

Unscientific America: How Scientific Illiteracy Threatens our Future etherealtruth Mar 2014 #108

Good piece from a good book! Thanks! HuckleB Mar 2014 #112

It's a bit weird. JoeyT Mar 2014 #122

You can do whatever you want to do. HuckleB Mar 2014 #123