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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
73. If you didn't want it commented upon, don't post it on a discussion board
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 02:09 AM
Mar 2014

And I meant what I said- you lot are all hat and no cattle. Love or hate the NRA, they
do have >3 million members (who pay for their memberships AND VOTE), while the
best you prohibitionists can do is mash up 1,500 so politicians with 150,000 "likes"
on Facebook (Mayors Against Illegal Guns/Moms Demand Action).

BTW,the last time we were told here that "the tide is turning" was before these
happened:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172126558

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172135246

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172135030

At 12:01 this morning, Jan 5th, Illinois started accepting Concealed Carry permit applications

The Illinois State Police started accepting online applications this morning from any qualified applicant for its Shall Issue concealed carry permits. The law was written by our downstate Dems and passed by the Dem speaker and Dem Senate president, including an embarassing massive override of a Quinn amendatory veto.They expect from 400,000 to 500,000 applications in the first year. But based on the recent Wisconsin and Ohio experience some think that may be a low estimate.


"More than 13,000 (Illinois) concealed carry applications get early OK"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014690293

"Chicago Ban on Gun Sales in City Unconstitutional, Judge Rules"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014726854

Court strikes California law limiting concealed weapons
Source: SF Gate

California must allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms in public, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday, striking down the core of the state's permit system for handguns.

In a 2-1 decision, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco said San Diego County violates the Constitution's Second Amendment by requiring residents to show "good cause" - and not merely the desire to protect themselves - to obtain a concealed-weapons permit.

State law requires applicants to demonstrate good cause, as well as good moral character, to carry concealed handguns, while leaving the permit process up to each city and county. The ruling, if it stands, would require local governments to issue permits to anyone who claims a need for self-protection.

"The right to bear arms includes the right to carry an operable firearm outside the home for the lawful purpose of self-defense," said Judge Diarmuid O'Scannlain in the majority opinion...

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Court-strikes-California-law-limiting-concealed-5232386.php



By all means, please keep on doing what you and those like you have been doing-
you've helped make gun control what it is today!

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Goens is right there, whipping up the hysteria. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2014 #1
An anti-Democratic, billh58 Mar 2014 #6
Read again, this is a Democrate written and pushed law. oneshooter Mar 2014 #9
This is a "Democrate" written and pushed law? billh58 Mar 2014 #10
Do you agree with the law as written? n/t oneshooter Mar 2014 #12
Yes. n/t billh58 Mar 2014 #13
Yeah, it's remarkably similar to the one I fought for here in CT. n/t Chan790 Mar 2014 #51
Reading is hard. linuxman Mar 2014 #11
Democrate? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #53
Why do you need more than ten rounds? mwrguy Mar 2014 #2
The rifles i question are 22 rim fire. oneshooter Mar 2014 #3
Rimfire rounds won't kill a child? mwrguy Mar 2014 #4
You really need to read closer. oneshooter Mar 2014 #7
Those .22s are bolt action. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #14
From the link in the OP: billh58 Mar 2014 #15
There is no specification of semi-auto oneshooter Mar 2014 #23
(4) A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding [15] 10 rounds. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #26
I think it is limited to semi-auto: the definition of "assault firearm" is what's being petronius Mar 2014 #27
are they talking internal or external mags here? the NY laws here are for external only. dionysus Mar 2014 #42
you aren't going to respond to post #26 are you? snooper2 Mar 2014 #93
back up proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #72
In case there are 11 invaders. n/t TheCowsCameHome Mar 2014 #5
This seems to be the bill in question: petronius Mar 2014 #8
Most fixed magazine firearms are bolt or lever action. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #17
Remington speedmaster 552, etc. n/t X_Digger Mar 2014 #18
Then I would recommend that they add the word "centerfire". NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #20
This is New Jersey. The morons banned hollow point bullets. X_Digger Mar 2014 #29
Many, maybe most, but not all, right? Isn't the Marlin Model 60 an example petronius Mar 2014 #19
Obviously they need to make a distinction for centerfire vs rimfire. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #21
not new at all proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #76
I wonder how many tube fed .22 semi-auto rifles are used in crimes? Jenoch Mar 2014 #22
They are not being targeted. The author probably didn't know about them. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #30
Too often the people writing these gun regulations Jenoch Mar 2014 #35
Not many rifles of any kind are used in crimes proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #74
I did know that. Jenoch Mar 2014 #81
the M-1 is semi automatic but has an internal magazine, as opposed to those crappy AR-15s dionysus Mar 2014 #44
That is your opinion proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #77
opinions are all about personal preference. dionysus Mar 2014 #92
good for n.j. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #16
Why? n/t oneshooter Mar 2014 #24
They might save a few kids lives, that's why. RobertEarl Mar 2014 #48
How? Is there something especially deadly about rounds 11-15? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #58
You can't count? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #59
A name you should research: Seng-Hui Cho friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #63
See? You are right RobertEarl Mar 2014 #64
"But lives just aren't as important as guns" PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #66
Repeal the Second Amendment, and we'll talk. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #68
rude PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #69
If you didn't want it commented upon, don't post it on a discussion board friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #73
Well then, get busy repealing the Second Amendment friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #67
That's right RobertEarl Mar 2014 #70
No. "Compromise" to you lot means "We'll only try to take away guns slowly,... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #71
Don't forget physical confiscation of 300 million that already exist .. Lost_Count Mar 2014 #87
True, firearms never are used for legitimate self defense.... spin Mar 2014 #83
Smart election year politics - puts Christie on the spot. Nt hack89 Mar 2014 #25
Outrageous! With all those traffic jams in NJ, one needs to shoot off joeybee12 Mar 2014 #28
This Token Republican Mar 2014 #31
good. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #39
Only a paranoid gun nut would oppose this law. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #32
And why is that? Abq_Sarah Mar 2014 #34
Not every single firearm owner is a paranoid gun nut SecularMotion Mar 2014 #36
Not every single gun control advocate is paranoid about gun owners friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #40
magazines. They want to take your over-capacity magazines. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #33
Justify Token Republican Mar 2014 #37
was i unclear? i dont want one round magazines. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #38
I'd like to thank you and your fellow Prohibitionists for coming clean about what you want friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #41
what i want and what ill settle for are two different things. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #43
The laws I support are also 'reasonable', yet conflict with what *you* want friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #50
oh horseshit. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #91
Thanks Token Republican Mar 2014 #46
For the record SecularMotion Mar 2014 #47
The Record Token Republican Mar 2014 #49
You've already broken one of your rules by discussing guns. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #55
Nope Token Republican Mar 2014 #57
We have our share of right wing gun nuts here. SecularMotion Mar 2014 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #65
They disagree with you, therefore they're right wing. Suuure... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #75
You do like to go there when you are not doing well in a discussion. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #80
You need to find a right wing discussion board that agrees with your radical right wing views SecularMotion Mar 2014 #82
Look at what the cops carry. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #79
What standard are you citing? proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #78
That's what the "common sense gun control" push has been about all along. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #45
We favor it... Chan790 Mar 2014 #52
Any links to polls? Skip Intro Mar 2014 #56
You are aware of how liberal CT is, right? Chan790 Mar 2014 #60
Thanks. Skip Intro Mar 2014 #62
Two words from you OP convinced me AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #54
Good news. bravenak Mar 2014 #84
Sounds good to me. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #85
Good. nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #86
Great news! k&r B Calm Mar 2014 #88
good to hear n/t Euphoria Mar 2014 #89
Good, you don't need more than 10 anyway. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #90
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