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109. Why? So he can brag that he offered to cut SS, but the GOP was too leftist to take the offer?

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:32 AM

Mar 2014

Seriously-- please answer that question for me, because I've seen defenders of this president offer that defense repeatedly, and it makes zero f'ing sense.

For one thing, he's not running for office again. For another, the political stain is on the guy who *offered* to cut SS, not the people who refused the offer. Hell, they can even frame their refusal to compromise on a budget as a defense of Social Security, if need be.

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White House suggests Social Security cuts remain 'on the table' [View all] Redfairen Mar 2014 OP

It's like they watch ''House of Cards.'' Octafish Mar 2014 #1

Third Rail Monty Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #35

I know. ananda Mar 2014 #138

DoD cuts PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #2

Thieves. woo me with science Mar 2014 #14

rec. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #15

FRSP! Demeter Mar 2014 #53

Oh shit. 840high Mar 2014 #3

Plenty of dough for the Ukraine, though. 1000words Mar 2014 #4

Chained CPI lives!!!!!1111 tridim Mar 2014 #5

You're right! These people are sick, they're obsessed! Remind us, MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #16

Let me be the first to deliver the inevitable reply: beerandjesus Mar 2014 #20

HA! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #24

Hopefully Rmoney will run again so there's a better choice in the caboodle ...err not! L0oniX Mar 2014 #82

Ha! Way to make Rand Paul sound like a reasonable choice. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #107

It's just an N-dimensional chess move Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #129

Same old, same old...... beerandjesus Mar 2014 #19

Yes, ODS'ers typically call me an "Obama apologist" tridim Mar 2014 #23

What's annoying is this "ODS" lie. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #25

ODS is far more annoying than whatever you just said. nt tridim Mar 2014 #26

Your constant slander of DUers is more annoying than just about anything. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #27

Except that today's Conservative Democrats were yesterdays Republicans Sirveri Mar 2014 #126

+another one dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #128

Ha! Awesome post. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #132

If we were camping on level ground I'd agree dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #133

Agreed. But keep in mind that if they're IN our tent, we can work on winning them over to the left. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #131

There is only one person in this thread Union Scribe Mar 2014 #34

If I'd see more here give credit Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #125

I actually don't disagree with your central point. beerandjesus Mar 2014 #130

+1 dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #127

bwhahaah. concern over this is clearly legitimate as the administration is the one cali Mar 2014 #36

So the White House and Obama are liars? Or are these words from the White House invisable to you? Autumn Mar 2014 #65

"if Republicans are willing to compromise." Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #75

You and I will have to disagree on that. Autumn Mar 2014 #76

I felt the same way Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #78

It was an official bargaining chip. One the republicans hadn't asked for, he offered it. Autumn Mar 2014 #80

Then what did I miss? Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #86

I don't think you are missing anything. Autumn Mar 2014 #88

Fair enough. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #89

Isoldeblue, I don't want to be right. Autumn Mar 2014 #92

I get that Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #95

Come to Colorado. We have it Autumn Mar 2014 #96

I'm in the armpit of the south, Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #97

I'm sorry. My neighbor buys the cheesecake and comes over for coffee, it works Autumn Mar 2014 #98

Accccccccccccccccccck!! Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #99

Get your smile going and keep the faith Autumn Mar 2014 #100

Why? So he can brag that he offered to cut SS, but the GOP was too leftist to take the offer? Marr Mar 2014 #109

I did say I could be wrong... Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #124

One problem with this logic is it fails to account for the fact that nobody wants to cut TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #136

That statement was made yesterday. Marr Mar 2014 #108

The rightward frogmarch continues unabated AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #6

Don't worry, we'll all rally around Hillary because Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #30

Fascism with an angry frown AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #33

Whichever represents the lesser of two evils? Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #60

Sadly... AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #67

Can't wait for the bumper sticker: We Suck Less L0oniX Mar 2014 #83

K&R woo me with science Mar 2014 #7

Hooray! Another pawn for the pan galactic chess game! progressoid Mar 2014 #8

I hope no one here fell for the, "but it's not in the proposed budget therefore it must be off the rhett o rick Mar 2014 #9

I'm sure we'll go back to sqaure one here on DU. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #11

Or... we need to find the person with ODS who claims cuts are on the table: MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #18

And just because it's not "on the table" doesnt mean it's "off the table". nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #55

And if you have fallen for it....... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #47

An actual Democrat could never do this. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #10

+ Several Brazillion! Demeter Mar 2014 #54

Engangered species: "actual Democrat" ...Sanders is more of a Dem than the majority of Dems IMO. L0oniX Mar 2014 #84

I'm sure ProSense Mar 2014 #12

Affirmations often come true with constant repetition jsr Mar 2014 #13

So that's where the ol "It's only a movie" comes from. L0oniX Mar 2014 #85

Yep. jsr Mar 2014 #90

Nice reference! beerandjesus Mar 2014 #104

It's never going to go off the table. Bringing it off the 3rd rail HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #17

Only food is going off the table. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #119

Food and shelter. woo me with science Mar 2014 #123

What's that old saying? I think it goes like this... polichick Mar 2014 #21

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #22

I see the garbage, dishonest talking point is back woo me with science Mar 2014 #28

Yes! First desensitize, then destroy. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #31

The "garbage, dishonest talking point" ProSense Mar 2014 #43

Wake the fuck up Obama... BlueJac Mar 2014 #29

I stepped up and voted Jill Stein. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #32

I voted third party in 2012 bigwillq Mar 2014 #39

I like what they do in Oregon. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #61

Or they can just get rid of the electoral college (nt) bigwillq Mar 2014 #62

That won't promote third party choices, though. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #64

This is true bigwillq Mar 2014 #66

You still could. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #101

I ready for Warren... BlueJac Mar 2014 #134

If Senator Warren is a primary candidate I will vote for her. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #139

He is wide awake The Masked Shrike Mar 2014 #41

You got that right! & Welcome to DU. Divernan Mar 2014 #42

Awake and deliberate. nt woo me with science Mar 2014 #103

With Obama, it's the death of a thousand cuts. Divernan Mar 2014 #37

You do realize very few folks will be impacted, and the amount those few might have Hoyt Mar 2014 #57

Wow. Our Democratic President will not hurt very many! woo me with science Mar 2014 #58

I see no reason to trump up criticism of Obama. Maybe you guys should find something that matters. Hoyt Mar 2014 #59

I was afraid the conversation would bend this way Doctor_J Mar 2014 #71

They honestly seem to believe that they've transformed what a party is... woo me with science Mar 2014 #79

We are talking about income taxes, not SS. Hoyt Mar 2014 #87

if that was true he wouldn't be using it like a political football Skittles Mar 2014 #91

I'm responding to poster 37 above who is trying to make an issue of taxes that Hoyt Mar 2014 #94

change you can believe in Doctor_J Mar 2014 #38

Oh what the hell. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #40

Pray, tell, what do the Palace Guard have to say about this? n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #44

I don't see that quote anywhere in the cited fact sheet. pinto Mar 2014 #45

read the last sentence in the op Doctor_J Mar 2014 #46

This one? - pinto Mar 2014 #48

What part of multiple "senior administration officials made clear" don't you understand. Divernan Mar 2014 #50

I'm just suggesting that we take speculation, reading between the lines, and vague references pinto Mar 2014 #52

Do you think SS cuts are off the table? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #56

And they wonder why Dems have a "meh" attitude vis a vis the midterms. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #49

word Doctor_J Mar 2014 #72

And this is why Elizabeth Warren's star keeps rising. closeupready Mar 2014 #51

TREMBLE, MORTALS AND... BEHOLD ! THE MAGIC TABLE OF MORAL DISCUSSABILITY! sibelian Mar 2014 #63

don't sound like you thank God every day for Obama Doctor_J Mar 2014 #69

He is the reason for the season. jsr Mar 2014 #74

He is the wind beneath my wings. QC Mar 2014 #105

Don't worry. There is more glory waiting in the wings... woo me with science Mar 2014 #113

Behold the radiant glow jsr Mar 2014 #115

It might be a halo. woo me with science Mar 2014 #137

It is not my intention to offend the Radiant One, nor his patient, persecuted followers. sibelian Mar 2014 #122

You just made my day. woo me with science Mar 2014 #117

Why thank you, woo, thank you. sibelian Mar 2014 #121

Whether the cuts are ultimately made or not, it's sad bigwillq Mar 2014 #68

yeah it's a shame. his legacy will be that of an appeasing dino Doctor_J Mar 2014 #70

I have written him on this and he replies politely with a lot of clap trap about Cleita Mar 2014 #73

We need to send $1 Billion to Ukraine ASAP jsr Mar 2014 #93

According to Victoria Nuland we already gave them 5 Billion so what's KoKo Mar 2014 #110

Next time, make it a total of 7. Heck, round it off to 10. jsr Mar 2014 #112

yeah right pacerbluedrum1949 Mar 2014 #77

The GOP know that cutting SS would be suicide AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #102

I thought progressives were the only ones thrown under the bus but Dems are there too. L0oniX Mar 2014 #81

Dem Voters will be blamed when TPP & Keystone XL are passed after Mid-Term Elections KoKo Mar 2014 #111

With Obama now the king of deportation ...don't expect a lot of Latino votes either. L0oniX Mar 2014 #114

But hey Ukraine have a free billion on us! Let us know if you need more! workinclasszero Mar 2014 #106

Jared Berstein: What�s Not DOA in the Obama Budget ProSense Mar 2014 #116

Take SS cuts off the table, not food. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #118

"the embrace of a culture of cruelty" woo me with science Mar 2014 #120

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