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Flying Squirrel

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138. And as usual it is left up to me

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #59)

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 06:02 PM

Mar 2014

To point out how often in life a majority of people can be 100% wrong on a subject. And when that happens, many in that majority (like you, in this case) insist that their numbers make them right and that the minority should just shut up. But the minority did not shut up, as it seldom will. Bring back unrec and the same thing will happen as before. (I personally just left DU over it for several years, not even bothering to lurk, and I'm sure I was far from being the only one. Apparently others stayed and fought, for which I'm grateful.)

The main point I was making, which you immediately tried to marginalize, is that it was not a small group of vocal malcontents who got Skinner to give in, but a very large percentage of DU which was dissatisfied.

Now, if they were to instead come up with some other system - one that could discourage fluff posts without also stifling dissent - I'd be all for it (depending on the particulars). But re-fighting the unrec war, that would be completely unproductive and I'm sure admin knows it.

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We need a down rec button [View all] Aerows Mar 2014 OP

You mean like two seperate rec widgets? AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #1

IIRC Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #83

Not Exactly Rosco T. Mar 2014 #100

That is based on the premise that Rec means "agree" jberryhill Mar 2014 #2

+1. I often rec for visibility. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #4

I rec for visibility Aerows Mar 2014 #7

If I want to disgree with an OP, I compose a post. winter is coming Mar 2014 #9

So being able to step up to the plate Aerows Mar 2014 #10

?? I'm not opposed to such a feature being implemented, and would probably use it winter is coming Mar 2014 #11

I don't always have a burning need to use the restroom Aerows Mar 2014 #13

So why do you need to pull over at a gas station now? n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #16

Because it has gotten a little too hot in the car these days Aerows Mar 2014 #22

There is no such thing as a kudzu baby. winter is coming Mar 2014 #23

You feed it with gasoline and set it on fire Aerows Mar 2014 #25

Why not just respond to the post? enlightenment Mar 2014 #162

It typically does in politics Aerows Mar 2014 #5

There's a place for unrec outside of an agree/disagree model NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #151

Yeah, I like that idea. n/t TDale313 Mar 2014 #3

The whiners won on unrec pintobean Mar 2014 #6

Huh? n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #8

What Pinto is talking about is that there used to be an "Unrec" feature. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #17

Thanks for the link. winter is coming Mar 2014 #20

Overwhelming majority Aerows Mar 2014 #24

Well, ask away! A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #32

Your posts in this thread remind me JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #99

Awwwww....geez... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #102

Not true Flying Squirrel Mar 2014 #57

60/40 in an election is a landslide. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #59

And as usual it is left up to me Flying Squirrel Mar 2014 #138

Yes, but you weren't in some persecuted minority, not by a long shot... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #150

Yes, I left. Flying Squirrel Mar 2014 #152

.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #154

There is a contingent around here that are using the # of REC'd as ammo, proving that they are RC Mar 2014 #126

IIRC many of the Unrec advocates weren't happy enough to have the Unrecs display separately. anAustralianobserver Mar 2014 #26

See, I don't think it should have any effect at all Aerows Mar 2014 #31

I'd be for it then. It would be interesting to see that. anAustralianobserver Mar 2014 #35

those flamewars were epic fizzgig Mar 2014 #36

Yes it was! A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #41

Golden days of DU. LOL Javaman Mar 2014 #61

Ah, so many names who were either booted the fuck out of here... Systematic Chaos Mar 2014 #42

Narrow minds are hard to hide. GeorgeGist Mar 2014 #47

Some people who imagined themselves to be DU celebrities QC Mar 2014 #52

Dang, I was hoping you had a link to the infamous "I will not be sileneced!" thread Javaman Mar 2014 #60

I just spent the last little while looking through my old bookmarks... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #106

I forgot about that one! LOL Javaman Mar 2014 #123

This Moon thread was pretty funny; A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #130

There used to be a real cast of characters on DU back then. Javaman Mar 2014 #132

In fact...it was you! A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #110

LOL dang. my brain isn't what it used to be! LOL Javaman Mar 2014 #124

Those links are hilarious, "unrec silences dissent" sufrommich Mar 2014 #65

I think what you're seeing is a result of the old DU at those links.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #135

For 2 solid weeks back in 2010, I posted nothing but K&R or Unrec in reply to threads... SidDithers Mar 2014 #69

People sure did take unrecs personally. pintobean Mar 2014 #77

miss earth mom. (nt) TacoD Mar 2014 #92

Okay, I just spent a good ten minutes reading your links. That was great stuff Number23 Mar 2014 #160

LOL...glad you liked it! n/t A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #161

Oh yeah, remember it well. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #82

I agree! Nt Logical Mar 2014 #86

you mean the trolls won krawhitham Mar 2014 #96

Yup. nt City Lights Mar 2014 #111

I DOWN rec this post Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #12

See? Aerows Mar 2014 #14

Either I truly dislike the idea and am using the idea Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #15

I love that you bring up my raccoon encounter every chance you get Aerows Mar 2014 #27

Just a thought for you, Aerows: Systematic Chaos Mar 2014 #43

FWIW, I simply assumed PW was mis-remembering the animal from the movie. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #56

I was bitten by a raccoon Aerows Mar 2014 #74

Damn. So sorry to here that. pintobean Mar 2014 #79

$18,000 Aerows Mar 2014 #80

You can domesticate nearly anything. But even 5 lb. feral housecats can beat some ass. Systematic Chaos Mar 2014 #116

Damn. And I've heard those shots are quite painful, too. winter is coming Mar 2014 #129

Why the idiotic raccoon mention? nt Logical Mar 2014 #87

As long as it didn't affect position on the Greatest page and wasn't anonymous :D anAustralianobserver Mar 2014 #18

I could care less about the Greatest Page, but it shouldn't be anonymous. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #28

That was definitely my point Aerows Mar 2014 #33

It should impact the greatest page! nt Logical Mar 2014 #88

Unrec should impact the "greatest" page. nt City Lights Mar 2014 #112

My rec only means I think other DUers should also read the material. Not that I agree with it. TeamPooka Mar 2014 #19

I've loved this forum since the moment I set foot in it Aerows Mar 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #29

The wording pipi_k Mar 2014 #66

Those who disagree with an OP already have a mechanism to say so. It's called ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #73

That works both ways - agree or disagree pintobean Mar 2014 #85

I like DU much better without it. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #30

If you are waiting to find a forum Aerows Mar 2014 #34

I agree, it is a part of any political forum... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #37

We used to have that capability--it did not down-vote below zero, though. MADem Mar 2014 #38

I propose that they stay Aerows Mar 2014 #39

So long as we're proposing changes (not that the admins are gonna do as we ask, but ...) MADem Mar 2014 #40

I remember. DU2 I think. Before the Jury system we had rec and unrec. Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #153

Yep! Those were the days....! nt MADem Mar 2014 #164

"Up the Down-Rec Staircase" kentauros Mar 2014 #44

When I hover my cursor over the DU Rec button, House of Roberts Mar 2014 #45

You need a down rec button. n/t leeroysphitz Mar 2014 #46

Yep. YouTube does it (showing thumbs up *and* thumbs down), why can't we? reformist2 Mar 2014 #48

Cos Youtube sucks sibelian Mar 2014 #50

"rec" and "unrec" wars were long-lasting. I sided in the end with "no unrec" sibelian Mar 2014 #49

Bah, I just hit the Rec button and then click it again. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #51

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #53

too "Facebookey" riverwalker Mar 2014 #54

Reddit does that Moliere Mar 2014 #55

Yes. We do...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #58

They need to bring back unrec button (nt) bigwillq Mar 2014 #62

I miss Unrec. Iggo Mar 2014 #63

we should stick with actual word meanings. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #64

I hit "rec" whenever I am about to go to my rec room. Everyone else uses it differently? FSogol Mar 2014 #68

Some think it means 'I'm Bluenorthwest and I approve this message'. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #72

I prefer your interpretation, but I suspect most DUers do not use it that way. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #75

I think you're conflating things frazzled Mar 2014 #89

it would be nice to unrec before trash canning a thread. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #67

We could certainly use one now, although woo me with science Mar 2014 #70

I would love to be able to vote down obvious flamebait and trolling. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #71

Now you see Sheldon Cooper is right...in his authentic western gibberish (blazing saddles) :) Drew Richards Mar 2014 #76

No. HappyMe Mar 2014 #78

Rec. Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #81

I like the premise, but in practice it doesn't work. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #84

Ah the drama of unrec nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #90

Yes, war was declared pintobean Mar 2014 #93

I was lurking when that all played out 1000words Mar 2014 #94

I used to unrec OPs I thought were divisive or disruptive. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #91

+999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 krawhitham Mar 2014 #95

I think the reason they won't put it in is because people might just unrec things from posters they hrmjustin Mar 2014 #97

Well PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #98

That is a good point. HappyMe Mar 2014 #101

I don't think the admins want that to happen. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #103

trash can is the tool of choice for me at this point. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #105

I understand the desire for the unrec but I also see why the admins say no. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #113

A thumb up or down on individual comments go west young man Mar 2014 #104

"I like kitties" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #107

Yeah, that wouldn't lead HappyMe Mar 2014 #108

It seems to work really well go west young man Mar 2014 #133

The Guardian UK isn't DU. HappyMe Mar 2014 #134

That could be nice. Sometimes, really good stuff is buried inside threads. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #131

The rec button is pointless enough. HuckleB Mar 2014 #109

because warrprayer Mar 2014 #114

They shouldn't have Aerows Mar 2014 #115

Yeahhhh...no. That's not what the old feature did at all. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #119

That's always been one of the silly arguments against it. pintobean Mar 2014 #120

After reading this thread... Jasana Mar 2014 #117

Why do people feel a need to control things here? notadmblnd Mar 2014 #118

You just did what you never ever do. pintobean Mar 2014 #122

I made no declaration in an OP notadmblnd Mar 2014 #125

excellent question warrprayer Mar 2014 #140

Since when can we reply to Ask The Admin threads? snooper2 Mar 2014 #121

For what? What would you down rec??? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #127

Not a bad idea as long as there is a list of the down rec button pushers Cleita Mar 2014 #128

Bring back unrec, and this is why... Waiting For Everyman Mar 2014 #136

Agreed...its only fair. Drew Richards Mar 2014 #137

Good point. anAustralianobserver Mar 2014 #139

It might have been different if the Greatest Page Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #147

You need to take that explanation to ATA. RC Mar 2014 #155

How about Flying Squirrel Mar 2014 #163

We need Recs & Unrecs on individual posts. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #141

Unrec. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #142

Unrec on your Unrec. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #143

Up your Unrec on my Unrec. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #144

Been there..done that.. IT SUCKED SoCalDem Mar 2014 #145

I'd rather see a Karma feature. Xithras Mar 2014 #146

It won't happen, Aerows steve2470 Mar 2014 #148

We do not need another way to show MattBaggins Mar 2014 #149

Shhhh! RC Mar 2014 #159

Since you are taking something from the OP, the OP should be able to override CK_John Mar 2014 #156

Many, many, many of us agree but the admins have completely ignored us. The lack makes a sham out of Rowdyboy Mar 2014 #157

DU rec frwrfpos Mar 2014 #158