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367. what has happened in four years is the reporting systems are more complicated

Wed Mar 5, 2014, 05:39 PM

Mar 2014

harder to catch the moving numbers...that is why I showed you the Spanish software company

I agree in some ways things are better than in 2002 but in some ways they are worse...you listed several tech problems with the machines...that made it easy for Kathy n to "find" an entire city of votes in Wisconsin couple days after the rest the state thought results were in

recently in Virginia 1000's of votes were "missed" in the vote accumulation before activists pointed it out

http://fatallyflawedelections.blogspot.com/

http://www.sweetremedy.tv/fatallyflawed/media/RTA_Fraud_Flyer_3_7_12.pdf

yes this case is 7 years old now...paper ballots do not do any good if only the machine gets to count them

in lots of states it is illegal to hand count even for a recount

the paper trail does not necessarily match the voters intent....in a former job I "programmed" diebold cash registers,(followed instructions in their booklet) even tho all the data was the same fed into it,the numbers printed out were different depending on what question I had asked it

anyways I am out of time but I stand by this....if the average person can not oversee every part of the election process with no special expertise it is not free, fair or democratic

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Meetups with my fellow GA DUers & the 2004, 2006 & 2008 elections. CottonBear Mar 2014 #334

While I'm fairly new to the site BainsBane Mar 2014 #339

Walt Starr, as weel as the "OH NOES1!! SATIN!" thread :) kentauros Mar 2014 #348

Boxer challenging the stolen election. And getting thousands of flowers. Liberty Belle Mar 2014 #352

Do you know what? I'm slightly amazed that none of you have even mentioned sibelian Mar 2014 #353

THE THREAD still lives! baldguy Mar 2014 #417

the douchebag thread was pretty awesome fizzgig Mar 2014 #357

There were two very dramatic moments I always will remember Samantha Mar 2014 #359

There was a funny occasion when a software glitch caused a thread to apparently go back to 1969 LeftishBrit Mar 2014 #364

The end of the 2008 primaries (i.e. when Obama clinched it) JVS Mar 2014 #372

Oh, man. SO many good times. Already mentioned below though, so I won't repeat. I will just GreenPartyVoter Mar 2014 #378

how many is a brazillion? newcriminal Mar 2014 #381

In the early days of DU, I enjoyed woo me with science Mar 2014 #386

since 2001 for me and onethatcares Mar 2014 #388

Well, hello. sibelian Mar 2014 #393

same to you. onethatcares Mar 2014 #394

mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them MadrasT Mar 2014 #389

that thread was classic nt NoGOPZone Mar 2014 #396

That one makes he laugh Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #400

A memorable thread: GrayWarrior's taped duck and the thread that never died........... DebJ Mar 2014 #398

Jury blacklist. nt valerief Mar 2014 #402

Political moment, Mile High Stadium. joshcryer Mar 2014 #403

DU's "make your own Chevy Tahoe commercial" entries. pacalo Mar 2014 #407

I remember when Bush choked on a pretzel... kentuck Mar 2014 #411

The day one of our threads got put into the Library of Congress during... Shandris Mar 2014 #412