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ScreamingMeemie

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285. I've been extremely clear and concise with facts

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:41 AM

Mar 2014

and links. It comes down to this: don't turn people into more than they are. I don't defend the indefensible. I made the mistake of attempting to defend Edwards even though his son of a mill worker post was pure pablum BS. How wrong I was. Mr. Grayson is cut from that cloth in my opinion, and he proves it all the time.

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Now that video exists of Alan Grayson being attacked by his wife without retaliating, I predict ... [View all] 11 Bravo Mar 2014 OP

That's not my issue with Mr. Grayson because that is his personal life. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #1

Do tell about SeaWorld with a link or something. rgbecker Mar 2014 #87

I don't get their newsletter either. Please ask nicely or Google it. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #92

Got it, thanks for the help. rgbecker Mar 2014 #122

Nope, that's not the one. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #124

...and....CRICKETS...of course ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #202

Not when it comes to women. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #293

I don't think it's a women thing. thesquanderer Mar 2014 #310

True, sometimes. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #313

You brought it up. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #228

I've posted it about eleventy-dozen times in the last 2.5 years. Because it does not fit with the ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #231

Jury Results: X_Digger Mar 2014 #270

Thanks. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #275

Well, I wish you would have posted a link to what you're talking about, regardless of Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2014 #319

For God's sake....Don't tell us, Please. rgbecker Mar 2014 #339

Not with respect to Grayson, just as to politicians in general: merrily Mar 2014 #309

The Conservative DINO's among us hate Grayson and will be glad when Karl Rove shuts him rhett o rick Mar 2014 #2

I wonder why a Progressive Democrat's divorce issues are so public, and distorted it appears when sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #10

Seems like we've been down this road before. Cleita Mar 2014 #17

"The Third Way doesn't look the other way" I stand corrected. Remember when John Conyers was rhett o rick Mar 2014 #26

Yes, and people are certainly beginning to notice. If this is how the game is played, sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #106

Bingo, which is exactly why I don't support Grayson and have withdrawn support. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #115

Heroes alfredo Mar 2014 #137

So where's the quid pro quo? Where's the 90K in the freezer? The kickback or whatever GoneFishin Mar 2014 #253

Nope. I support progressives, not those who pander to corps. Sorry. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #257

Yeah. You keep saying that. But WHAT MONEY? GoneFishin Mar 2014 #262

Here you go. I was hoping you would ask... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #268

So there's Grayson; greiner3 Mar 2014 #273

What does Alan Grayson being willing to bring the whole of the Humane Society down upon ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #279

Perhaps like many of us, Grayson grew up Live and Learn Mar 2014 #322

I think it is better to judge this issue alongside the rest of his record newthinking Mar 2014 #323

Sea World employs 6000 people and attracts 8 million tourists to the area? William Seger Mar 2014 #334

So who would that be other than Warren and Sanders.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #266

My comments are in response to those who believe that Grayson is some maverick progressive. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #269

and my response is a response to that.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #271

Read over my posting history of the past 11-ish years, if you care to. The only person ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #274

So SHE can have an issue you disagree with and that doesn't make her "NOT Liberal" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #277

...She's not liberal. It's just Grayson is so very not liberal. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #282

Okay that is some really convoluted logic.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #284

I've been extremely clear and concise with facts ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #285

The so-called facts are not the issue.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #287

Im confused. quakerboy Mar 2014 #308

Do you support Obama? n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #317

On this one issue you disagree with him, so he's good for nothing? LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #261

Sorry, but that decision was horrific. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #263

He intervenes on behalf of a 6,000 job employer in his area dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #364

Spitzer and Weiner committed suicide pscot Mar 2014 #278

Of course. Rationalization is the key to happiness, right? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #296

Didn't Spitzer go to work on TV, too? merrily Mar 2014 #301

Rangel, Waters, merrily Mar 2014 #316

add to that LiberalLovinLug Mar 2014 #358

McKinney? Really? dbackjon Mar 2014 #359

"There are no conspiracies, there are no conspiracies, there are no...." rhett o rick Mar 2014 #361

No doubt. blackspade Mar 2014 #60

Remember Jack Ryan's (R - Goldman Sachs) divorce? REP Mar 2014 #94

That was going to be made very public regardless Aerows Mar 2014 #147

They were divorced in 1999; records were unsealed in 2004 during his campaign REP Mar 2014 #225

It comes natural to them. ReRe Mar 2014 #312

Mr. Grayson took a rather conservative stance ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #25

I wasn't aware of the Sea World thing, but what bothers me madinmaryland Mar 2014 #181

I remember how exciting it was when Elizabeth first logged in and Skinner vetted her. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #186

That is tacky as hell Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #300

Everything with you seems to be Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #138

A little twisty. I didnt say all those that didnt like Grayson were DINO's as you suggest. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #149

Your deflecting skills are good.... n/t Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #256

Nobody hear hates him treestar Mar 2014 #213

LOL, of course not. They just dont care if he lives. I would guess that all of the BOG rhett o rick Mar 2014 #297

Why does it have to be either, or? Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #311

There are some on here who hate him, seemingly just because he speaks out and is progressive. cui bono Mar 2014 #318

Well, we disagree. So be it. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #325

Why would a Bogger even oppose him? treestar Mar 2014 #332

You would have to ask them that. Ask them why they ridicule him in his own threads too. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #333

Baloney treestar Mar 2014 #331

Please dont twist my words. I never claimed his life was threatened. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #353

It's that nasty little "Stop The Left" neoliberal Third Way agenda. Zorra Mar 2014 #246

he's a good rhetoric man (no pun intended), like dennis was, who doesn't wield much power. dionysus Mar 2014 #276

I'm sure they will apologize RobertEarl Mar 2014 #3

You seem very angry at people who don't really exist geek tragedy Mar 2014 #4

So what you are saying is... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #9

what I am saying is that the time frame that is most under dispute is not shown geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11

WELL she said she was shoved... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #15

all valid questions. As far as people lying, I recommend you see geek tragedy Mar 2014 #19

Where is yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #28

Is that a picture of a NAKED MAN ON DU! snooper2 Mar 2014 #32

pssst...thats from the movie yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #34

I know, but this is DU snooper2 Mar 2014 #37

Well ... he is also yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #40

The only thing I can say to this is.. butterfly77 Mar 2014 #234

Clean livin' Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #111

No shit. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #107

Oh, come on, can I please just look at the picture? raven mad Mar 2014 #62

Not Naked! blackspade Mar 2014 #63

AAAAAAARGRGHHHHH!!!RRAARRHGGHTTGGH!!KL AARTGGTGAAEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!#^%^*^�%^*< Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #104

Right, "discussion" Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #120

Yeh, me too. Whisp Mar 2014 #189

Bigfoot Porn, Again? Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #248

Was the bag surgically attached to his hand? kcr Mar 2014 #35

When one carries a bag like that... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #38

It might have been the mail he had come to collect kcr Mar 2014 #41

IT would HAVE been a whole lot better if it had yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #44

Poison? blackspade Mar 2014 #66

IF if was made by yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #69

I wouldn't put that scenerio past him. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #145

Make the statement=Provide the proof HangOnKids Mar 2014 #154

I have no idea what it is you want Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #254

" I've seen him act out in ways towards women, that were completely wrong." Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #260

For one, with Karen Finney on the Lawrence O'Donnell show. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #265

Was it this exchange? Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #299

No, it was definitely on Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #302

Yeah, I couldn't find anything else with the two of them together. Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #303

Of course your opinion is your option but this statement is not an opinion it is stated as a fact HangOnKids Mar 2014 #291

I already answered that here. Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #292

You didn't answer shit HangOnKids Mar 2014 #294

Either you're too Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #295

I'm not looking for flies dear HangOnKids Mar 2014 #365

You should take care Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #367

Perhaps to get her behavior on film lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #195

Hmmm kcr Mar 2014 #196

MRA fantasy land is women Always lie. And suck your soul out while at it. Whisp Mar 2014 #267

Someone else is actually putting forth this ludicrous sting operation theory kcr Mar 2014 #289

I am not accusing the guy of shoving anyone, let me make that clear. MADem Mar 2014 #326

Right .. yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #357

Exactly! Andy823 Mar 2014 #16

more to the point, there was no effort to attack or shame Grayson supporters geek tragedy Mar 2014 #18

Horseshit. Some were accused of "victim-blaming" at a bare minimum. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #58

sigh. the objections to "victim-blaming" were not to people geek tragedy Mar 2014 #64

Did you watch the video posted in #299? Jim Lane Mar 2014 #366

Riiiight, I imagined that thread. And NO, I won't bother to link to it because ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #21

If that's the thread with about 76 responses right now, it is actually geek tragedy Mar 2014 #27

What is shows is her abusing him. Nothing else. That proves she is abusive. Unless it's not abusive sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #22

perhaps you missed the point that geek tragedy Mar 2014 #24

Why would Grayson bring Vinnie From Indy Mar 2014 #45

I'm not the wife's attorney, nor a prosecutor, nor someone who is claiming geek tragedy Mar 2014 #49

Or the video person couldn't get started until a certain point treestar Mar 2014 #219

To me, it doesn't look like the video was planned whopis01 Mar 2014 #335

Actually, bringing a witness to a situation like this is standard Vinnie From Indy Mar 2014 #348

If the person was brought specifically to film the event whopis01 Mar 2014 #352

Exactly what badge sniffers say when a cop killing is shown on video. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #205

this is ironic--here you are attacking me for not rushing to conclusions geek tragedy Mar 2014 #207

I have not watched the video. Let me watch and get back to you. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #208

I can't watch the video here it seems. Bonobo Mar 2014 #210

Wait a minute. You haven't even seen the video kcr Mar 2014 #235

If you actually read my posts... Bonobo Mar 2014 #236

No, that isn't the only conclusion kcr Mar 2014 #243

Amazing, isn't it? Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #298

The OP greatly overstates the supposed lynch mob mentality. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #249

You can watch this video in Japan Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #337

No, I didn't miss it, nor do I presume to know anything but what I can see. You otoh, want me to sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #223

You are falsely characterizing my statements. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #241

You stated that we don't know what was on the part of the tape we haven't seen. Why is that sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #280

Ask Shirley Sherrod. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #283

He attacked her fist with his face, silly! Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #114

He's not going to end up in the hospital treestar Mar 2014 #217

But if he had done exactly the same thing he would be considered a monster. Thanks, that's what I sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #232

If he hit her, he might have hurt her treestar Mar 2014 #330

So you ARE saying it's okay for a woman to hit a man. How do you feel about lying about men sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #344

NO, but the results count treestar Mar 2014 #346

So if I punch someone, just because I'm a woman, I won't be arrested for assault? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #349

Anytime an adult hits another adult, there is the potential for severe injury and death. stevenleser Mar 2014 #362

I think I've told you of the broken bones, etc. I received while married, polly7 Mar 2014 #222

Polly, you are one of the most honest, ethical people on DU and your opinion sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #226

... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #233

Screw it, I'll address it. Why not... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #247

He's a pandering blowhard. There are several major corporations in his district. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #255

Doth protest too much. GoneFishin Mar 2014 #258

Just passing through pointing out that your "God" is a little bit less than... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #259

Yeah. So are you alleging that is his fault? GoneFishin Mar 2014 #264

Elizabeth Warren, my senator and a damn good one, engaged in pork barrel politics quite recently. MADem Mar 2014 #327

OMG! That does it! Lol. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #288

The feeling is mutual, Sabrina! polly7 Mar 2014 #341

It has certainly been... what's the word? Oh yeah, "educational" opiate69 Mar 2014 #354

I never even heard of the incident! George II Mar 2014 #108

+1, plus this kind of divorce is not a good thing for a politician treestar Mar 2014 #215

I am not going to judge, having the privilege geek tragedy Mar 2014 #244

True, but having seen a lot of divorces treestar Mar 2014 #329

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #5

As long as you made an adult decision to circumcise yourself. closeupready Mar 2014 #7

Were you asked to show your receipt? nt OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #12

sorry, thatt video although helpful to him is no dispositive. cali Mar 2014 #6

And that is my exact point. We DON'T know exactly what happened. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #33

And, speaking of "victim blaming", deafening silence from many around this post in another thread... opiate69 Mar 2014 #43

Hi. bravenak Mar 2014 #48

The forlorn hope has arrived! 1000words Mar 2014 #52

What up, playa? bravenak Mar 2014 #53

bravenak BainsBane Mar 2014 #97

I love you too!!! bravenak Mar 2014 #113

um... opiate69 Mar 2014 #54

That's me. bravenak Mar 2014 #56

You called her out. She came, responded BainsBane Mar 2014 #98

I need nothing. Her words speak volumes on their own opiate69 Mar 2014 #101

Yeah, slight difference BainsBane Mar 2014 #105

Indeed it was repulsive. Glad we agree. opiate69 Mar 2014 #121

Very few victims of absue report. BainsBane Mar 2014 #128

Ok. so the video was edited... however, opiate69 Mar 2014 #134

Really? BainsBane Mar 2014 #151

Additionally BainsBane Mar 2014 #116

anyone think TPTB are behind this to prevent him from becoming president ? JI7 Mar 2014 #8

No, because he has never had the slightest chance of being nominated cali Mar 2014 #20

I didn't see any posts like that... cyberswede Mar 2014 #13

Can one link to one's own imagination? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #23

Here's a great example: demwing Mar 2014 #42

Thanks cyberswede Mar 2014 #46

Mmmmmmm .... 1000words Mar 2014 #14

i saw one thread. first three of four posts had the woman as a bad mom, a lolita, liar.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #29

According to Grayson's lawyer- Grayson's daughter claims Mr.Grayson did not hit her mother or lumpy Mar 2014 #68

Ok. That really has nothing to do with my list and the discussion seabeyond Mar 2014 #75

Yeah, like if there was video of him striking her "the jury" would still be out awaiting conclusive TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #70

And I won't argue that one either, lol. Ya. Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #76

hope it gets cleared up --like him a lot dembotoz Mar 2014 #30

Sounds like a shitstorm. Glad I missed it. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #31

I still think, no, I KNOW Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #84

Well, I'm glad you think so. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #112

Sorry, but that wasn't clear with your last post. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #130

I stand by my post Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #39

You should. bravenak Mar 2014 #50

Thanks yo Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #71

You're welcome. bravenak Mar 2014 #72

Diagnosing from the grandstands now? HangOnKids Mar 2014 #85

Hey, I was just thinking about you Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #119

So you know SHIT about Grayson but had to throw your cheap hat in the ring? HangOnKids Mar 2014 #127

Oh, same old HangOnKids...I've missed our little routine Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #133

Hey the routine HangOnKids Mar 2014 #135

Welcome! Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #136

Boom! Cha Mar 2014 #328

... Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #336

LOL, are you expect to be taken seriously? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #190

That the best you could do Boom Sound 416 Mar 2014 #191

Makes no sense like your other post. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #194

It's a "streak detector", man! Don't you even know about the "streak detector"?!? nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #320

I didn't read any of those threads, but I'll bet I can name 90% of the people considered him guilty. Marr Mar 2014 #47

Considering that there aren't even 10 people doing that, technically that's impossible nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #55

So you have now gone from "people who don't really exist", to "there was no effort", to ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #74

What about marr accusing duers with NO info. That does not even hit you outrage meter. Right? Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #79

That comment was ridiculously stupid and offensive. But it's not what I posted about. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #96

I would absolutely agree. But, I did not read what you did on the only seabeyond Mar 2014 #123

you evidently are still very angry at someone over this case geek tragedy Mar 2014 #80

Hysterical! Yeah, "not even 10" has long been adult speak for "zero". 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #86

thank you for your pointless insults. you are obviously the right person geek tragedy Mar 2014 #95

I don't know shit about this case. Neither do you. But ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #117

you decried the mean people geek tragedy Mar 2014 #126

BAZINGA! HangOnKids Mar 2014 #110

Do tell? seabeyond Mar 2014 #61

That easily goes both ways treestar Mar 2014 #220

Except it doesn't go both ways. Marr Mar 2014 #229

That vid only shows part of the story. Whisp Mar 2014 #51

So, out of curiosity, what exactly could he have said or done that would justify her assaulting him opiate69 Mar 2014 #57

I have no idea what happened. Whisp Mar 2014 #67

So... physical violence is possibly a legit response to threatening words? opiate69 Mar 2014 #73

I'm not playing your game, opiate. Whisp Mar 2014 #77

It's not a game. what, if anything, justifies assault? opiate69 Mar 2014 #88

ok, let's leave the Grayson case aside for a minute. Whisp Mar 2014 #91

As would I. opiate69 Mar 2014 #99

You can't justify assault LittleBlue Mar 2014 #103

She bruises on her arms and shoulders. 840high Mar 2014 #251

Can you honestly say that you'd take the same position if the sexes were reversed? Marr Mar 2014 #150

what the heck does that mean? Whisp Mar 2014 #153

Really? You're going to pretend that question was difficult to understand? Marr Mar 2014 #155

If the sexes were reversed I would still want to know the missing part of the vid. Whisp Mar 2014 #167

I don't believe you. Marr Mar 2014 #174

and I don't believe a word you ever say either. Whisp Mar 2014 #176

The only thing I've said is that suggesting the victim of an assault might've deserved it is sick. Marr Mar 2014 #177

he could very well have hit her first, now That is what is sick to deny that Whisp Mar 2014 #185

The video contradicts her version of events. Marr Mar 2014 #201

okay, I get it now Whisp Mar 2014 #209

I can tell you're desperate to change the subject. Marr Mar 2014 #227

Why not admit that the President is sometimes right? Whisp Mar 2014 #230

You've gone from 'maybe the victim deserved to be hit' to 'leave Obama alone'. Marr Mar 2014 #237

I never said the victim deserved to be hit. Whisp Mar 2014 #238

Why are you ranting about Grayson's prospects as a presidential candidate? Marr Mar 2014 #245

The billion dollar question. Thank you for asking it. Bonobo Mar 2014 #281

Because it doesn't show the part where he deserved it? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #198

WTF? blackspade Mar 2014 #59

I don't think it happened; I didn't see it, either. cyberswede Mar 2014 #65

Alan! AzDar Mar 2014 #78

Who had him "tried and convicted?" MADem Mar 2014 #81

If you're accused, you're guilty bluestateguy Mar 2014 #82

Would you like to point out who "these people here" are as you find them guilty seabeyond Mar 2014 #83

Who knows? Well, we know at this point that she can be violent Warpy Mar 2014 #90

Where is the initial thread? Hissyspit Mar 2014 #93

Here. Ikonoklast Mar 2014 #143

Thnx! Hissyspit Mar 2014 #193

Thank you. eom. Raine1967 Mar 2014 #206

"Guilty until proven innocent" is the way the internet works today. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #100

And, if the narrative is juicy enough... regnaD kciN Mar 2014 #307

Which DUers tried and convicted him? BainsBane Mar 2014 #102

Did you even watch the video? LisaL Mar 2014 #109

I just did BainsBane Mar 2014 #125

Oh for crying out loud. Google is your friend. LisaL Mar 2014 #129

WTF does that have to do with the video? BainsBane Mar 2014 #132

Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Mar 2014 #152

It doesn't come up in a google search BainsBane Mar 2014 #165

She is the one who called 911 and claimed she was assaulted. LisaL Mar 2014 #166

It doesn't bother you at all about what may have been happening Whisp Mar 2014 #131

he has not been cleared?? grasswire Mar 2014 #139

The charges of domestic assault filed with the court. BainsBane Mar 2014 #142

the bedrock principle of our system of justice... grasswire Mar 2014 #304

Of course BainsBane Mar 2014 #305

Now that I'm watched that video, I'm really pissed off BainsBane Mar 2014 #140

seeing that looped over and over was a shocker Whisp Mar 2014 #146

Anyone can see it's a loop BainsBane Mar 2014 #148

Then go look at the video that is not a loop. LisaL Mar 2014 #156

link? BainsBane Mar 2014 #158

There are four seconds unseen Nevernose Mar 2014 #159

Four seconds unseen? BainsBane Mar 2014 #162

She walks from the car to the house Nevernose Mar 2014 #170

why would he have to put the bag down? Whisp Mar 2014 #172

It means that she's guilty of domestic violence Nevernose Mar 2014 #178

No it doesn't because we do not see the whole scenario. Whisp Mar 2014 #187

iirc there was no camera pan.... pan from the red van to the front steps. Whisp Mar 2014 #179

I was going to say. We don't even know how many seconds are missing. kcr Mar 2014 #192

How in the world did you come up with '4 seconds' missing? n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #197

From the timer at the bottom Nevernose Mar 2014 #199

I see no timer at the bottom... Whisp Mar 2014 #203

This is what I was looking at Nevernose Mar 2014 #211

Did you hear the part Andy823 Mar 2014 #216

It was said the sound wasn't on the recording because of law Whisp Mar 2014 #224

Re: The Bruises - The link downthread says Lolita takes Taekwondo. I took it in college and I stevenleser Mar 2014 #221

So you know for a fact that video covers the entire incident? idendoit Mar 2014 #141

Heh. I saw NONE of that going on, but it fits the narrative so go for it, buddy! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #144

Well shit, Sheldon, if YOU didn't see it, then clearly it didn't happen. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #183

Sheldon is right because he posts snarky photoshopped gag pix. closeupready Mar 2014 #240

Here is the video some are claiming exonerates Grayson BainsBane Mar 2014 #157

If you don't like loops, WTF are you looking at this particular one? LisaL Mar 2014 #161

It's the only one I know BainsBane Mar 2014 #163

There is no loop here. LisaL Mar 2014 #164

Indeed. and it shows a single push BainsBane Mar 2014 #168

You do realize that mose likely it was Orlando Sentinel who put the video on the loop? LisaL Mar 2014 #169

I have no idea BainsBane Mar 2014 #175

That video does not prove anything. 840high Mar 2014 #160

It proves that her version of events was not factual, and that she's guilty of domestic violence. Marr Mar 2014 #182

I didn't get that 840high Mar 2014 #250

Thanks. Lolita Grayson Appears to be a Liar BodieTown Mar 2014 #171

But run from this man, Democrats! Run, run away. The Republicans will be grateful as always. maddiemom Mar 2014 #173

You totally don't get it at all, do you. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #180

Don't hold your breath 11Bravo malaise Mar 2014 #184

After reading the thread I would say that the OP is correct, no apologies forthcoming Fumesucker Mar 2014 #188

Perhaps now, Alan Grayson will think twice before accusing an opponent of "beating his wife" cpwm17 Mar 2014 #200

I'm ready for him to get lost, and you should be too. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #204

I'm not a big fan of Alan Grayson cpwm17 Mar 2014 #214

Thank you for listening. For months I have been posting this in the face of "Alan can do no ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #218

DUers should not be taunted for being wrong treestar Mar 2014 #212

Well said. I would like to see that good advice applied all around. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #239

except i would like to know what thread the duers were doing as bravo suggested. seabeyond Mar 2014 #252

Why not? And if even ... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #286

It just adds to the animosity treestar Mar 2014 #347

I agree that such an OP is largely useless, since it... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #350

OP provided them a period lasting until the end of time to prove him wrong. JVS Mar 2014 #315

Not automatically assuming guilty until proven innocent would help cool down some of the great Hissyspit Mar 2014 #321

Poor guy. What a mess. merrily Mar 2014 #242

we saw a select portion of video, sans sound. i'll reserve judgement until the matter is settled. dionysus Mar 2014 #272

Agreed. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #290

I predict... regnaD kciN Mar 2014 #306

I think you're right nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #314

Well it looks like Progressivism and Liberalism have been discredited and dishonored for ALL TIME nikto Mar 2014 #324

This place has been infiltrated with trolls The Wizard Mar 2014 #338

Her story didn't pass the smell test MynameisBlarney Mar 2014 #340

I don't see how anyone can know what all happened based on that tiny bit of video gollygee Mar 2014 #342

It would have helped if everyone advancing a theory made disclaimers to that effect, i.e. its a stevenleser Mar 2014 #343

It appears some view it as absolute evidence kcr Mar 2014 #355

I had not heard of the video. I am glad there is one. dotymed Mar 2014 #345

My son was falsely accused by an insane woman a few years ago... jimlup Mar 2014 #351

I rarely look at Greatest Threads page and to find 2nd to top one is bashing DUers is a reason why uppityperson Mar 2014 #356

K&R! Omaha Steve Mar 2014 #360

So the contingent was all set with tar and feathers, and Waiting For Everyman Mar 2014 #363