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In reply to the discussion: A Chronology of the Ukrainian Coup [View all]TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)150. The articles say the Parliament chose the speaker of the Parliament to assume
Presidential duties. They don't say "The United States has chosen the speaker of the Parliament to assume Presidential duties". We have to deal in the facts as known, not on theories.
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Corruption? Can you detail for us WHO has been involved in the corruption of most of the EU
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#72
You're welcome Polly. Had to post something factual to counter the MSM's fairytales.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#6
"Given the Russian Parliament’s approval of Putin’s request for military troops to be moved...
ProSense
Mar 2014
#3
You should add a caveat that you're no fan of Yanukowitsch and don't love Putin.
Democracyinkind
Mar 2014
#9
What would you prefer? Pure, 100% U.S. propaganda? We already have that. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#13
Considering that every member state of the EU, Japan, and Canada agree with the US
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#22
1) It's their country, not ours, 2) plotting regime change is getting old and tiring
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#26
But causing REGIME CHANGE in countries around to manipulate them or others, is SICK
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#36
again, the extraordinary claim that the US caused a mass uprising in Ukraine
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#39
Oh BS. I'm Latin. Latin America has been the target of U.S. regime changes for, oh forever
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#41
Let's drop this, ok? You're a lover of regime-change, so this convo is over. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#44
No. You favor manufactured dissent to overthrow democratically elected govts. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#46
You're denying that the U.S. has its claws all over this regime change. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#119
Yup, same sh*t, different day. Thank you for posting that wonderful article! nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#107
Oh yeah, and the U.S. is not responsible for regime changes and coups in endless countries
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#112
"the fact that in some cases the US has sponsored and plotted coups..."
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#124
It's my position that it's pure U.S. propaganda that the insurrection was wanted by
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#57
What I deny is that the U.S. was not involved in hiring and promoting this thing
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#116
That fact that you even mention EU as if they have any credibility, well that says it all.
2banon
Mar 2014
#89
I think I asked you this before, but in case I didn't. Who are the 'putinistas'? The reason I'm
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#167
Feel free to add any substantial information or to refute any assertion that I made.
Democracyinkind
Mar 2014
#15
I agree regarding the other countries involved, the EU NATO countries, but it seems from the
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#172
Thank you. You're right. The entire nation was not out on the streets...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#11
The US can't even explain what all those neocons are doing in its state department
Catherina
Mar 2014
#24
Bush jr had them in there.. didn't realize all these players were still in the game
2banon
Mar 2014
#94
Clinton (Hillary) brought Nuland in as spokesperson and then Obama brought her in as Asst Sec State
Catherina
Mar 2014
#146
I hadn't so thanks for pointing it out. Rec'd to the max! Tom's analysis is spot on
Catherina
Mar 2014
#232
it's weird you take the Russian version in large scoops and reflexively say US is bullshit
Pretzel_Warrior
Mar 2014
#74
Yup, like Venezuela. As I said, "same sh*t, different day" - just more of U.S. activity
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#117
According to you. The same is said after every U.S.-financed coup, until the docs come out nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#148
Is it not true there were thousands of Ukrainian protesters on the street?
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#151
You are having the same reaction of supporters before the documentation is pouring out by the
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#177
Not at all. You think that a double standard is perfectly fine when it comes to the U.S.
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#179
What the hell does a double standard for the US have to do with anything????
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#181
As do I, and that's now what you're supporting. You're supporting the U.S. MSM view. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#182
No. I'm supporting my family members view, who've told me firsthand what's going on.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#184
Fine, you'll ignore history and ignore any other facts, so let's agree to disagree. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#185
But you can't just say, "Well we did it in Chile and Iran, so we did it in Ukraine."
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#188
Ok, but I can say that there are things in this that sound like other regime changes
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#189
So what other US sponsored revolution involved thousands of protesters being paid off? nt
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#190
Oh come on now. Now you'd like me to explain the tactics of manufacturing dissent?
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#194
And name one of those where the US put on its payroll thousands and thousands of protesters..
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#200
Exactly as in all the cases in which the U.S. created regime change, the names are not known until
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#202
Wait, let me phone the CIA and find out for you. I'll let you know in a moment
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#206
Oh, hold on, let me zoom to the future when all the data is collected, so I can
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#213
Let's drop your pointless game. I'll continue to expose the truth, and you, the lies. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#228
No, I told you what it is. You're the one insisting it is wrong because you support
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#237
You seem to have fallen for the myth of American Omnipotence more thoroughly than most Neocons...
WatermelonRat
Mar 2014
#154
If the original leader had been put there via a military coup, I might be tempted to believe you...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#169
It's a link to Alex Jones. The video is being used to push the site's twisted garbage. n/t
ProSense
Mar 2014
#38
Lol. Too funny. And this from the king, or queen, of self-delete to obliterate your record here
Catherina
Mar 2014
#183
It's too funny how some here think their indirect slandering won't be noticed
Catherina
Mar 2014
#195
Oh I noticed 4 or 5 people going directly into 'attack mode' as soon as they saw your name.
Rex
Mar 2014
#196
I noticed that too. Thankfully there are many solid, respected authors out there
Catherina
Mar 2014
#30
If the corporations support it, it must be a "democracy" worthy of our "protection". K&R
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#49
I've spent the last ten minutes looking for who was supporting Imperialism, Russian Imperialism and
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#98
"You either support sovereign nations to have the government they decide to have, or you don't."
polly7
Mar 2014
#111
Or, it's being ignored for the bullshit it is in this case regarding Crimea. nt.
polly7
Mar 2014
#160
Willfully blind. No notice of the Cheney Advisor or PNAC neocons in the State Department either.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#78
People going apeshit over a single picture of two politicians in the political minority.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#137
do you like doing all of that extra formatting of bolding, adding images, etc?
Pretzel_Warrior
Mar 2014
#63
Do you object to information being made clearly available? I don't, I don't always click links so
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#76
Omg, that conversation between Nuland and Pyatt! Unbelievable! Americans should be outraged
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#100
I love how none of the detractors still have any comment on Nuland, her PNAC husband on the board
Catherina
Mar 2014
#130
The price they will have to pay for that. Already we are hearing about the takeover of people's
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#131
The rump parliament is ramming these things in before the people have a chance to revolt
Catherina
Mar 2014
#164
Poor beleaguered Russia--they didn't WANT to invade Ukraine, they had no choice.
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#104
Are you interested in knowing the facts about these issues? What do you think, eg,
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#133
That old diversion thing doesn't work, haven't you learned that by now? We were behind the ousting
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#139
They're a transitional government, chosen by Parliament in the abdication
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#143
That doesn't answer my question. The leader was clearly the choice of the US
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#149
The articles say the Parliament chose the speaker of the Parliament to assume
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#150
They don't have to say anything, because we know now what was going on, all they need to say
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#161
Again, we need to deal in facts. Not conspiracy theories, not "connect the dots", not
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#163
Oh I agree, couldn't agree more in fact. Eg, we were told that the US was not at all involved
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#168
But isn't that the way the U.S. does things when it causes regime change?
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#170
Well if you can have a Muslim communist athiest President who attends a radical black church....
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#145
You must spend a lot of time reading garbage from the totally discredited Faux Noose crowd, How do
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#171
I think Ukraine is to be the EU's new cheap labor. Labor there is cheaper than in China
Catherina
Mar 2014
#214
Yup, the revolt had nothing to do with people starving and disgusted by a corrupt
joeybee12
Mar 2014
#216
I've been to the Ukraine...I have friends and family there...so unless you have...
joeybee12
Mar 2014
#219