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JayhawkSD

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48. So, where are all the ACA cheerleaders?

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:46 PM

Mar 2014

"ACA is wonderful because millions can now get health insurance." Why aren't those folks in this thread defending the wonderfulness of the ACA?

As I posted elsewhere, of the four doctors I go to (primary, neurologist, pulmanologist and cardiologist), in the last two years one has left the medical practice, one has moved to a smaller town, and one has quit the network of my insurance carrier (United Healthcare, which I've had for almost twenty years). Insurance issues played a role in all three cases, and changing three out of four doctors when you are 70 years old, have had multiple strokes, emphysema, two heart attacks and Parkinson's Disease is not a lot of fun.

How much of that was caused by the ACA? Well, I can't really say, but it certainly doesn't seem that the ACA has helped much, has it?

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Worse Than the Mob: The Insurance Industry Is Organized Crime [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2014 OP

Three words: UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER gopiscrap Mar 2014 #1

Fuck all for profit business! PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #9

Fuck privatized, for profit, commons AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #15

you've got it right! Energy, Banking, Health Care WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #68

And other basics AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #101

Totally agree! gopiscrap Mar 2014 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #63

enjoy your stay PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #70

I am SO behind that idea! Fuck the insurance companies....all of them! loudsue Mar 2014 #10

+9**999 Vincardog Mar 2014 #33

Medicare 3% overhead vs. 30% for private health insur companies. ErikJ Mar 2014 #50

Single Payer should be the endgame here... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #99

Absolutely gopiscrap Mar 2014 #104

When will journalists ever figure out that the "insurance industry" is not monolithic? Common Sense Party Mar 2014 #2

In context it's clear that health insurance providers are what is meant here. Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #31

The CEOs who run insurance companies are nothing but pimps. Joe Bacon Mar 2014 #76

k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #3

Is the Consumer Protection Agency helpful in these instances? nt valerief Mar 2014 #4

Recommend jsr Mar 2014 #5

Health insurance company executives are mass murderers for profit. Scuba Mar 2014 #6

Premeditated killing. jsr Mar 2014 #12

Scuba, yes that is so true..these people... prairierose Mar 2014 #25

In the best possible glowing wording Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #37

But at least when some thug truedelphi Mar 2014 #41

Once upon a time, I had good health insurance. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #47

That's why so many were trying to point out that health insurance is NOT health care BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #7

It is insurance finance reform. Autumn Mar 2014 #11

People here did not and do not want to hear that. truedelphi Mar 2014 #42

I am in CA too and was shocked when they said the insurance can't be used out of state BrotherIvan Mar 2014 #83

The good news in Calif is that since we almost pulled off truedelphi Mar 2014 #95

precisely. f*ck insurance. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2014 #110

This is terrible PumpkinAle Mar 2014 #8

Sure You Can Get Samples... ChiciB1 Mar 2014 #126

Insurance Commissioners! tea and oranges Mar 2014 #13

What a terrible situation. Thank you for putting your anger and your formidable power of words enough Mar 2014 #14

K&R, great piece MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #16

I've always hated insurance. It's just a parasite industry. Cleita Mar 2014 #17

Health Insurance Companies do not provide health care. magical thyme Mar 2014 #18

I have no coherent words for how horrifying this scenario is. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2014 #19

Health Insurance companie make a profit by taking your money and *denying* care magical thyme Mar 2014 #20

EXACTLY my past experience with more than 1 insurance company!!!!! And I mean EXACT! benld74 Mar 2014 #21

It's Called RobinA Mar 2014 #29

I got that revolving door of phone numbers lovemydog Mar 2014 #22

What is wrong with the people in this country who reject socialized healthcare? redqueen Mar 2014 #23

My dad said this. In 1960. raven mad Mar 2014 #24

A righteous rant, Will... THANKS! n/t TygrBright Mar 2014 #26

Insurance Insures Profits afertal Mar 2014 #27

Smash the fascist parasite that preys upon the people! Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #28

+1 an entire shit load! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #51

we need single payer & none of this tiny network 'for profit barrier' between us & Doctors. Sunlei Mar 2014 #30

Getting the Website up, getting people signed up, bvar22 Mar 2014 #32

It's trillions over the years. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #36

The latest estimate I have seen is about $1 TRILLION over 10 years. bvar22 Mar 2014 #46

Just out of curiosity... JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #52

Here: bvar22 Mar 2014 #56

Mondat Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday... WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #34

So glad she finally got them BuelahWitch Mar 2014 #55

I'm glad they finally came but passiveporcupine Mar 2014 #79

Thank god... KatyaR Mar 2014 #92

Is she OK, Will? ReRe Mar 2014 #109

We'll see. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #119

If this isn't grounds for a suit... ReRe Mar 2014 #128

Everyone at DU is for transitioning to Medicare for All.... Right? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #35

My household is waiting. For everyone in the USA to be truedelphi Mar 2014 #39

Medicare for ALL?... Now THAT would be a step toward a National Single Payer System, but... bvar22 Mar 2014 #86

Did you catch this article from the NYT's about how specialists are really truedelphi Mar 2014 #113

Price Controls and a Watch Dog agency were conspicuously missing from the ACA. bvar22 Mar 2014 #127

No, I'm endorsing a far larger program. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #43

I'll take that, in fact the Community Health Centers in Obamacare are grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #64

I grew up on Military bases. Half-Century Man Mar 2014 #65

Go WolfPac!!! grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #66

Medicare needs some changes, like an out-of-pocket cap (like private insurance). And drug coverage Hoyt Mar 2014 #60

I got Medicare in November HockeyMom Mar 2014 #81

If Big Insurers and Big Pharma are worse than the Mob, truedelphi Mar 2014 #38

because they're the types who say it's not authoritarian to forbid questioning authority MisterP Mar 2014 #61

They own state legislatures too hibbing Mar 2014 #40

Unbelievable! I've been saying . . . aggiesal Mar 2014 #44

BTW, Mr Pitt, truedelphi Mar 2014 #45

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #54

So, where are all the ACA cheerleaders? JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #48

wtf... Whisp Mar 2014 #62

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #80

It has helped me get in the door to actually see a doctor... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #88

Exactly. It's not perfect, but better than before. Hoyt Mar 2014 #107

BC/BS ain't the only culprits - Remember how Aetna kept whining rurallib Mar 2014 #49

Medicare is single payer. It needs to be beefed up to 100% coverage and Cleita Mar 2014 #72

remember the day Lieberman said he was willing to vote for Medicare rurallib Mar 2014 #74

Between him and Max Baucus, they screwed up things but good. Cleita Mar 2014 #75

Don't forget Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas. bvar22 Mar 2014 #89

Ah yes, lovely Blanche. Can't forget her. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #90

FYI ProSense Mar 2014 #102

Good post laundry_queen Mar 2014 #114

So whats up? How come your not in trouble yet Will? Autumn Mar 2014 #53

Couple of years ago madamesilverspurs Mar 2014 #57

Agree completely Sivart Mar 2014 #58

Truly we are ruled by crooks - ruthless criminals and their smiling servants kenny blankenship Mar 2014 #59

So much for the free market matt819 Mar 2014 #69

Ahem! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #71

Their business model is denying claims and collecting premiums, not providing coverage. pa28 Mar 2014 #73

Thank you for this... countryjake Mar 2014 #77

Will, you hit that head on and onethatcares Mar 2014 #78

We can not move forward on anything until Citizens United is struck down. YOHABLO Mar 2014 #82

I am really sorry that your wife has been caught up in the hell that is managed mnhtnbb Mar 2014 #84

Well what do you expect from the RWing braintrust of Nixon and Agnew? Rex Mar 2014 #85

You and I have had our differences. cliffordu Mar 2014 #87

Your candidate sucks. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #91

insurance cos were sposedly the problem with health care, so the obvious solution was to KG Mar 2014 #93

Don't forget what THEY will allow when it comes to reimbursement cureautismnow Mar 2014 #94

The doc that charged you that is sleazy too. Hoyt Mar 2014 #108

Thanks for offering an example of what most people are facing. truedelphi Mar 2014 #115

Well done, Will! pacalo Mar 2014 #96

ACA: the best "insurance policy" BIG MONEY could write. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #97

tell Congress you are sick of it and want single payer! daybranch Mar 2014 #98

Better yet... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #100

Might be useful... uberblonde Mar 2014 #105

I refuse to die until I dance on the grave of the health insurance industry. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #106

It is my fervent hope to join you Mopar151 Mar 2014 #116

If the industry is organized crime, we're paying the salaries of their merrily Mar 2014 #111

I had a high up, bigoted enough Uncle in the insurance business. Aerows Mar 2014 #112

Sorry to hear of your troubles with Anthem! Mopar151 Mar 2014 #117

Truth is told here! Private ins. cos. are parasites/predators of the sick & dying!!! hue Mar 2014 #118

You're wrong--MANDATORY, for-profit health insurance is the law. And it has solved all our problems. Romulox Mar 2014 #120

Everything you send the sociopaths needs to be certified signature required mail... L0oniX Mar 2014 #121

Not to minimize the shameful... sendero Mar 2014 #122

Caveat Emptor (What You Need to Know about Your Mob Insurance and Healthcare Provider) Bozvotros Mar 2014 #123

In California we had four choices. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #124

How Many Of You Have Had To FIGHT With ChiciB1 Mar 2014 #125

Rec 196. You're hitting them out of the ballpark lately n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #129