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In reply to the discussion: TIME Newsmaker Interview: Bernie Sanders Says He’d Make a Better President Than Hillary Clinton [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)90. Neither did Kucinich when my precinct met with him. He defended Obama as a progressive to the ODS
gang who invaded our meeting.
They were LaRouchies and wanted Dennis to work to impeach Obama because the troops had not yet come back from Iraq. He informed them the POTUS has intelligence that Congressmen don't know about, and his job is much different than the job of a Congressman.
He had talked to Obama in the White House, and while there he realized that from the point of view of his position, he respected his decision. At times a member of Congress must make a case opposing a POTUS of his own party, because it is what his voters want. At least Democrats have that leeway, Republicans never criticize their POTUS openly.
Bernie has also no doubt had talks with Obama in private, and his report on him is like others who have talked to him in the White House, without the media there to skew his words. He is a progressive and liberal who is being obstructed like no other president since Lincoln, treading a dangerous path to get anything done.
Those in the media who make out that any Democrats who criticize the president really don't approve of him, is just an attempt to divide the party by using B&W reasoning. Some people will fall for it and think there is blood in the water, which is pathetic. It's also why they're worthless in making changes in real life.
Note that Bernie did not go after Clinton as some are dying for him to do. She is very intelligent, but not as savvy as Obama. It will require a great deal of voter enthusiasm to overcome GOP shenanigans. They intend no less than to topple the federal government while carving out fiefdoms for the Koches.
It will take a united party to stop them and they will use media to stoke divisions that are not there. A look at the videos I posted of Hillary supporting Obama in 2008, shows she did not make a mealy mouthed or insincere endorsement. They showed the style difference, though.
She sounds just like Bill, her cadence is the same and even her head motions and expressions remind one of Bill Clinton. After all, being married to the same person for years has that effect.
I will add that, in her speech on the stump for Obama, she warned the PUMAs to not jump ship. So those that did, and continued to criticize Obama, did not do her will, and not her responsibility.
She's been unfairly maligned to the point of being dishonest for many things by far right and far left who have met on the outside and decided to hate the Democratic Party as one entity, just about. The GOP, because they know that Democrats will push liberal agendas when they have the numbers to do so, and the far left because libertarian views are not going to be enacted.
Bernie respects both Obama and Clinton. There is no feud.
They were LaRouchies and wanted Dennis to work to impeach Obama because the troops had not yet come back from Iraq. He informed them the POTUS has intelligence that Congressmen don't know about, and his job is much different than the job of a Congressman.
He had talked to Obama in the White House, and while there he realized that from the point of view of his position, he respected his decision. At times a member of Congress must make a case opposing a POTUS of his own party, because it is what his voters want. At least Democrats have that leeway, Republicans never criticize their POTUS openly.
Bernie has also no doubt had talks with Obama in private, and his report on him is like others who have talked to him in the White House, without the media there to skew his words. He is a progressive and liberal who is being obstructed like no other president since Lincoln, treading a dangerous path to get anything done.
Those in the media who make out that any Democrats who criticize the president really don't approve of him, is just an attempt to divide the party by using B&W reasoning. Some people will fall for it and think there is blood in the water, which is pathetic. It's also why they're worthless in making changes in real life.
Note that Bernie did not go after Clinton as some are dying for him to do. She is very intelligent, but not as savvy as Obama. It will require a great deal of voter enthusiasm to overcome GOP shenanigans. They intend no less than to topple the federal government while carving out fiefdoms for the Koches.
It will take a united party to stop them and they will use media to stoke divisions that are not there. A look at the videos I posted of Hillary supporting Obama in 2008, shows she did not make a mealy mouthed or insincere endorsement. They showed the style difference, though.
She sounds just like Bill, her cadence is the same and even her head motions and expressions remind one of Bill Clinton. After all, being married to the same person for years has that effect.
I will add that, in her speech on the stump for Obama, she warned the PUMAs to not jump ship. So those that did, and continued to criticize Obama, did not do her will, and not her responsibility.
She's been unfairly maligned to the point of being dishonest for many things by far right and far left who have met on the outside and decided to hate the Democratic Party as one entity, just about. The GOP, because they know that Democrats will push liberal agendas when they have the numbers to do so, and the far left because libertarian views are not going to be enacted.
Bernie respects both Obama and Clinton. There is no feud.
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TIME Newsmaker Interview: Bernie Sanders Says He’d Make a Better President Than Hillary Clinton [View all]
babylonsister
Mar 2014
OP
You will vote for someone who is part of the problem? What if Bernie runs? I would definitely
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#49
I'd vote for him for the nomination. After that, I'm voting for the Dem nominee
NightWatcher
Mar 2014
#57
We've stopped some of the bleeding caused by the Bush years, but the ship is still sinking.
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#125
The economic imbalance, the overabundance at the top of society and the misery at the bottom,
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#158
Thats worked SOOOO well for the republicans. and for us, come to think of it.
quakerboy
Mar 2014
#118
I still think that Obama was not ready for the gig in 2008, but he won and there he is.
Beacool
Mar 2014
#150
How does he win? By telling the truth about the situation in America today, how middle class and
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#156
Congressmen and Senators lead the life of a sheltered child compared with a President
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#20
lol/irrelevant...Mt. Cali just needs to erupt several times a day, doesn't it?
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#22
I don't care how old he is, chronologically, mentally he appears to be far more with it than
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#52
So that applies to Hillary's Senate service and to the Presidents' entire resume
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#105
Maybe he could take steps to dismantle the fucking bullshit that would make his head explode.
Enthusiast
Mar 2014
#67
I think Bernie Sanders would have no problem handling any situation, foreign or domestic.
Dawgs
Mar 2014
#62
We have plenty to go on. Bernie Sanders has proven to be smart, capable, and tough.
Dawgs
Mar 2014
#93
America's biggest problems are domestic. Obama is strong when it comes to foreign policy.
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#160
No he wouldn't because the stupidity of the country would not take him seriously, and Hillary would
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#11
On DU no problem, but I do not see one red state accepting that, or for that matter the midwest
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#37
Actually I believe your assessment is incorrect. Hillary WILL get the women vote in those states
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#104
I agree, but in my view that is not what they believe, and the MSM will
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#111
You are correct. The media will seek to distort the issue as they always do.
Enthusiast
Mar 2014
#113
Hope you are right, but they still call it the "liberal media", which we all know is a crock
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#117
No, that is an added bonus in her favor. Her more conservative views will attract more voters in
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#123
If Bernie runs as a Democrat I will vote for him. If he loses in the primaries however, I will vote
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#167
Those women who are "more conservative than in say California" will vote Republican. n/t
winter is coming
Mar 2014
#148
You are probably right. I guess it depend on degree, that is how conservative, but then again that
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#171
The problem is the "socialist" label. That isn't going to cut it in a nationwide election. Of
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#31
Sure, but the brain washing has to be undone, and that will take decades. Probably the worst thing
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#61
I don't see how it could happen in the bible belt or the south. You are assuming people in those
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#103
I would to, but only if he runs as a Democrat and gets the Democratic nomination. Modern history
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#132
They would call him a communist, and he would respond by explaining his view on our economy.
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#162
The primary season would be *meaningful*. We might actually get some debates that are
winter is coming
Mar 2014
#153
Yes he would make a better President than Hillary, unfortunately he couldn't be elected. The
lostincalifornia
Mar 2014
#9
Neither did Kucinich when my precinct met with him. He defended Obama as a progressive to the ODS
freshwest
Mar 2014
#90
Amazing post. Thanks for that. And those of us not eaten up with impotent rage already knew
Number23
Mar 2014
#110
Yes, we are. And they know who is lying about them, too, and don't support it. n/t
freshwest
Mar 2014
#119
It’s easier to talk about it than do it, as Bernie says, he is a talker not a doer.
CK_John
Mar 2014
#32
Perot did well as a third candidate. Maybe Bernie could pick up right leaning independents.
toby jo
Mar 2014
#45
Bernie would offer "hope and change" that has substance. Run, Bernie.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#65
The Bottom Line is we have to hope he keeps talking about it to give Progressives Hope
C0RYH0FFMAN
Mar 2014
#91
Every candidate in a primary is going to say he/she is better than the other candidates.
winter is coming
Mar 2014
#144