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In reply to the discussion: A Chronology of the Ukrainian Coup [View all]joeybee12
(56,177 posts)216. Yup, the revolt had nothing to do with people starving and disgusted by a corrupt
government...nothing...I'm so sick of paranoid BS like this that parades as facts...if the unrec button were still here, you'd have a few hundred.
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Corruption? Can you detail for us WHO has been involved in the corruption of most of the EU
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#72
You're welcome Polly. Had to post something factual to counter the MSM's fairytales.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#6
"Given the Russian Parliament’s approval of Putin’s request for military troops to be moved...
ProSense
Mar 2014
#3
You should add a caveat that you're no fan of Yanukowitsch and don't love Putin.
Democracyinkind
Mar 2014
#9
What would you prefer? Pure, 100% U.S. propaganda? We already have that. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#13
Considering that every member state of the EU, Japan, and Canada agree with the US
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#22
1) It's their country, not ours, 2) plotting regime change is getting old and tiring
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#26
But causing REGIME CHANGE in countries around to manipulate them or others, is SICK
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#36
again, the extraordinary claim that the US caused a mass uprising in Ukraine
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#39
Oh BS. I'm Latin. Latin America has been the target of U.S. regime changes for, oh forever
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#41
Let's drop this, ok? You're a lover of regime-change, so this convo is over. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#44
No. You favor manufactured dissent to overthrow democratically elected govts. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#46
You're denying that the U.S. has its claws all over this regime change. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#119
Yup, same sh*t, different day. Thank you for posting that wonderful article! nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#107
Oh yeah, and the U.S. is not responsible for regime changes and coups in endless countries
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#112
"the fact that in some cases the US has sponsored and plotted coups..."
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#124
It's my position that it's pure U.S. propaganda that the insurrection was wanted by
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#57
What I deny is that the U.S. was not involved in hiring and promoting this thing
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#116
That fact that you even mention EU as if they have any credibility, well that says it all.
2banon
Mar 2014
#89
I think I asked you this before, but in case I didn't. Who are the 'putinistas'? The reason I'm
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#167
Feel free to add any substantial information or to refute any assertion that I made.
Democracyinkind
Mar 2014
#15
I agree regarding the other countries involved, the EU NATO countries, but it seems from the
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#172
Thank you. You're right. The entire nation was not out on the streets...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#11
The US can't even explain what all those neocons are doing in its state department
Catherina
Mar 2014
#24
Bush jr had them in there.. didn't realize all these players were still in the game
2banon
Mar 2014
#94
Clinton (Hillary) brought Nuland in as spokesperson and then Obama brought her in as Asst Sec State
Catherina
Mar 2014
#146
I hadn't so thanks for pointing it out. Rec'd to the max! Tom's analysis is spot on
Catherina
Mar 2014
#232
it's weird you take the Russian version in large scoops and reflexively say US is bullshit
Pretzel_Warrior
Mar 2014
#74
Yup, like Venezuela. As I said, "same sh*t, different day" - just more of U.S. activity
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#117
According to you. The same is said after every U.S.-financed coup, until the docs come out nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#148
Is it not true there were thousands of Ukrainian protesters on the street?
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#151
You are having the same reaction of supporters before the documentation is pouring out by the
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#177
Not at all. You think that a double standard is perfectly fine when it comes to the U.S.
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#179
What the hell does a double standard for the US have to do with anything????
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#181
As do I, and that's now what you're supporting. You're supporting the U.S. MSM view. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#182
No. I'm supporting my family members view, who've told me firsthand what's going on.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#184
Fine, you'll ignore history and ignore any other facts, so let's agree to disagree. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#185
But you can't just say, "Well we did it in Chile and Iran, so we did it in Ukraine."
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#188
Ok, but I can say that there are things in this that sound like other regime changes
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#189
So what other US sponsored revolution involved thousands of protesters being paid off? nt
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#190
Oh come on now. Now you'd like me to explain the tactics of manufacturing dissent?
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#194
And name one of those where the US put on its payroll thousands and thousands of protesters..
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#200
Exactly as in all the cases in which the U.S. created regime change, the names are not known until
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#202
Wait, let me phone the CIA and find out for you. I'll let you know in a moment
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#206
Oh, hold on, let me zoom to the future when all the data is collected, so I can
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#213
Let's drop your pointless game. I'll continue to expose the truth, and you, the lies. nt
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#228
No, I told you what it is. You're the one insisting it is wrong because you support
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#237
You seem to have fallen for the myth of American Omnipotence more thoroughly than most Neocons...
WatermelonRat
Mar 2014
#154
If the original leader had been put there via a military coup, I might be tempted to believe you...
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#169
It's a link to Alex Jones. The video is being used to push the site's twisted garbage. n/t
ProSense
Mar 2014
#38
Lol. Too funny. And this from the king, or queen, of self-delete to obliterate your record here
Catherina
Mar 2014
#183
It's too funny how some here think their indirect slandering won't be noticed
Catherina
Mar 2014
#195
Oh I noticed 4 or 5 people going directly into 'attack mode' as soon as they saw your name.
Rex
Mar 2014
#196
I noticed that too. Thankfully there are many solid, respected authors out there
Catherina
Mar 2014
#30
If the corporations support it, it must be a "democracy" worthy of our "protection". K&R
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#49
I've spent the last ten minutes looking for who was supporting Imperialism, Russian Imperialism and
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#98
"You either support sovereign nations to have the government they decide to have, or you don't."
polly7
Mar 2014
#111
Or, it's being ignored for the bullshit it is in this case regarding Crimea. nt.
polly7
Mar 2014
#160
Willfully blind. No notice of the Cheney Advisor or PNAC neocons in the State Department either.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#78
People going apeshit over a single picture of two politicians in the political minority.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#137
do you like doing all of that extra formatting of bolding, adding images, etc?
Pretzel_Warrior
Mar 2014
#63
Do you object to information being made clearly available? I don't, I don't always click links so
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#76
Omg, that conversation between Nuland and Pyatt! Unbelievable! Americans should be outraged
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#100
I love how none of the detractors still have any comment on Nuland, her PNAC husband on the board
Catherina
Mar 2014
#130
The price they will have to pay for that. Already we are hearing about the takeover of people's
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#131
The rump parliament is ramming these things in before the people have a chance to revolt
Catherina
Mar 2014
#164
Poor beleaguered Russia--they didn't WANT to invade Ukraine, they had no choice.
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#104
Are you interested in knowing the facts about these issues? What do you think, eg,
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#133
That old diversion thing doesn't work, haven't you learned that by now? We were behind the ousting
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#139
They're a transitional government, chosen by Parliament in the abdication
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#143
That doesn't answer my question. The leader was clearly the choice of the US
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#149
The articles say the Parliament chose the speaker of the Parliament to assume
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#150
They don't have to say anything, because we know now what was going on, all they need to say
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#161
Again, we need to deal in facts. Not conspiracy theories, not "connect the dots", not
TwilightGardener
Mar 2014
#163
Oh I agree, couldn't agree more in fact. Eg, we were told that the US was not at all involved
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#168
But isn't that the way the U.S. does things when it causes regime change?
Sarah Ibarruri
Mar 2014
#170
Well if you can have a Muslim communist athiest President who attends a radical black church....
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#145
You must spend a lot of time reading garbage from the totally discredited Faux Noose crowd, How do
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#171
I think Ukraine is to be the EU's new cheap labor. Labor there is cheaper than in China
Catherina
Mar 2014
#214
Yup, the revolt had nothing to do with people starving and disgusted by a corrupt
joeybee12
Mar 2014
#216
I've been to the Ukraine...I have friends and family there...so unless you have...
joeybee12
Mar 2014
#219