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195. "You don't invade a country on completely trumped up pre-text"

Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:29 PM

Mar 2014

How exactly is that a "disgrace"?

Seriously, how?

Clearly people are using this opportunity to jump on the anti-Kerry bandwagon.

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And Then Kerry Said... [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2014 OP

I wonder if the Georges Bush laughed. grasswire Mar 2014 #1

To be fair ... 1000words Mar 2014 #2

I see what you did there. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #165

He said it WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #4

"It seems he's against it after being for it before being against it. " ProSense Mar 2014 #7

there are photos to take, wood to chop. life in the New Hampshire wilderness has its challenges Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #24

What was Kerry's position on Bush's illegal invasion based on trumped up lies? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #174

Exactly what I thought.. n/t ReRe Mar 2014 #54

Not real original, and very RW. wisteria Mar 2014 #86

It's so complex, that a decade later we still can't decide why we invaded. progressoid Mar 2014 #103

...but if you watch Rachel tonight, at 9 pm you'll find out more about this. n/t Mira Mar 2014 #168

kerry voted for it. He knew more than me who sits in alaska with a modem yet he1 roguevalley Mar 2014 #169

I'm so seconding every word you are saying! Mira Mar 2014 #173

Impossible for Vietnam Vet Kerry, but not DC Insider Vet Kerry. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #114

Kerry has been for yaers an DC OUTSIDER. mylye2222 Mar 2014 #199

Sow the wind.... n/t Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #3

So Putin laughing at this is sad? ProSense Mar 2014 #5

Are you seriously contending you don't understand the intent of the meme? Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #8

I understand RW handwringing. Is that what you mean? ProSense Mar 2014 #9

I think we all know you understand unwavering party allegiance pretty well. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #21

No, ProSense Mar 2014 #41

I trust Kerry is forwarding this President's position. That is his job. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #6

Wow. Someone gets it. MADem Mar 2014 #129

And some don't understand irony I guess. cui bono Mar 2014 #178

but William Rivers Pitt said; dionysus Mar 2014 #10

so he was for him before he was against him ................ JI7 Mar 2014 #11

yep. a windsock always knows which way to blow, apparently... dionysus Mar 2014 #12

!! Number23 Mar 2014 #15

Man, that sucked. Aldo Leopold Mar 2014 #39

Yes. We'll never know how much damage could have been undone or spared ourselves from altogether Number23 Mar 2014 #45

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #100

Because some people actually can reevaluate. Cheese4TheRat Mar 2014 #115

Well... Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #20

I was very disappointed when the Democratic Party.... ReRe Mar 2014 #68

Why? Try naming another person in DC who investigated and exposed more govt. corruption than Kerry blm Mar 2014 #158

I had no problem with John Kerry... ReRe Mar 2014 #176

With TeamBush and TeamClinton working against you, it's amazing that Bush STILL had to steal it, blm Mar 2014 #177

Not sure where you're going there, but... ReRe Mar 2014 #179

All kinds of beauties out there to fit any occasion: Whisp Mar 2014 #154

.... greatauntoftriplets Mar 2014 #213

Well done...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #13

Or this: ProSense Mar 2014 #14

Critical thinking tends to do that. rug Mar 2014 #32

Or disingenuous crapping. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #33

You mean disingenous sniping. rug Mar 2014 #34

No, I meant crapping. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #37

Then you missed. rug Mar 2014 #38

I thought you meant fapping. Aldo Leopold Mar 2014 #42

lots of disengenuous fapping takes place on DU for sure Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #46

More in some places than others. rug Mar 2014 #50

I thought all fapping on DU... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #214

How does pointing out that the US cannot expect to be taken seriously when it says sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #210

How is this even relevant to what he posted above? 1awake Mar 2014 #16

LOL. okay. nt dionysus Mar 2014 #18

Sorry, I know it's Pitt and some people love targeting him. Carry on. nt 1awake Mar 2014 #19

Kerry never delivered this message-how was that relevant to begin with? nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #36

I have no idea babylonsister... I found it a poor attempt. nt 1awake Mar 2014 #40

5 star find, dionysus. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #25

i just did a 3 word site search and picked one link.... i'm sure there's a ton more.... dionysus Mar 2014 #31

regardless. fits well with the thread. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #35

That was before Kerry worked for Obama. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #30

You could quote the rest of it WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #47

i provided the link Will. pointing out your glaring hypocrisy trying to score points with the crowd dionysus Mar 2014 #87

Who did you vote for in 2004? WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #96

Dean primary, Kerry in the general. but i'm not the one dissing the guy you were a hardcore dionysus Mar 2014 #98

I thought it was an ironic, amusing meme. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #104

might as well call it a day then, old timer... dionysus Mar 2014 #106

We all have our crosses to bear. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #109

i highly doubt kerry will make that mistake again, and i doubt you think so either. either way, dionysus Mar 2014 #111

Straw WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #112

+1 I agree entirely with your analysis. MADem Mar 2014 #131

Dude, now you lost me. merrily Mar 2014 #89

"His apologizing for a war vote is totally inadequate." WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #97

Not piling at all on regarding your OP. merrily Mar 2014 #105

Wait, ProSense Mar 2014 #135

Candidate Kerry disapponted more than a few...(Ohio).... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #49

Is your position that praising a politician in 2003 means you cannot criticize him in 2014? merrily Mar 2014 #56

I think the position is that OP praised even after Iraq vote, but is now mad at diplomacy. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #61

He wanted Kerry to run in 2008: ProSense Mar 2014 #69

So? merrily Mar 2014 #80

Did I respond to you? If you want to dismiss that fact, then ignore comments not directed at you. nt ProSense Mar 2014 #82

Why would I ignore your comment? merrily Mar 2014 #92

P.S. Not dismissing any fact, just trying to understand. merrily Mar 2014 #107

The OP doesn't seem "mad at diplomacy" to me. Seems like a comment on merrily Mar 2014 #70

So you agree that the mockery could go both ways? JaneyVee Mar 2014 #77

Straw man merrily Mar 2014 #79

Whoa! bravenak Mar 2014 #57

Make that a 30 year liberal voting record now. But yeah, lets just mock him instead. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #67

See post #47 WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #75

Talk about hit and run. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #123

Derp. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #128

why is that such a surprise? stupidicus Mar 2014 #76

See post #47. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #85

See post 14 n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #91

Time for a musical interlude.... MADem Mar 2014 #130

What's the controversy? sibelian Mar 2014 #172

The Irony, it Hurts! Martin Eden Mar 2014 #17

Without a doubt, we're paying for Dubya's stupidity.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #22

...reap the *damned* whirlwind. n/t Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #23

Oh are you going to get in trouble for that! JVS Mar 2014 #26

The hypocrisy is astounding. Rec'd n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #27

"you must lead a sad life" Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #28

I have a frowny always. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #83

or are optimists. those still exist. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #93

OK. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #99

Thanks for sharing. She's a cute one. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #102

Fie on frownies! merrily Mar 2014 #160

Introducing a clip of Kerry's speech, Jon Stewart said, merrily Mar 2014 #29

Rachel Maddow described it as a "spit-take moment" the other night. bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #43

why is everyone acting like Kerry was a mouth piece fore Bush? Seems in 2004 Kerry was Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #48

This? Hissyspit Mar 2014 #53

yep. everyone forgets all of the things in play at that point Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #55

saddam was an asshole, but not a danger to us. putin is an asshole, but not dangerous to us. dionysus Mar 2014 #119

I haven't forgotten anything, and I knew it was all bullshit. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #122

Most of us here knew it was bullshit. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #132

Because they have a narrative to maintain. Rex Mar 2014 #137

23 Senators voted against authorizing Bush to invade Iraq, they were right. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #142

I would not take for granted that merrily Mar 2014 #152

Oh, please, Louise! Like Hissyspit, I haven't forgotten and, since merrily Mar 2014 #150

And, he was briefed on these concerns and believe he was being told the truth in good faith. wisteria Mar 2014 #90

Did you believe the claims of the Bush administration at that time? merrily Mar 2014 #116

The vast majority of Amrricans did believe them Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #147

No one I know believed them. merrily Mar 2014 #149

Well good for you. What knowledge did you have that supported your POV? wisteria Mar 2014 #183

This post is about an ironic statement made in 2014. merrily Mar 2014 #62

A lot of people believe the reason Kerry lost to Bush was he because was too much like him. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #71

no he didn't. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #73

In 2004 QuestForSense Mar 2014 #84

pot, meet kettle blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #44

Not impressed. He's doing the best he can babylonsister Mar 2014 #51

I dont think it's a hit on Kerry 1awake Mar 2014 #52

then its on all of us for allowing that little motherfucker to stride past Gore into the WH Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #59

That I agree with completely. So much damage done 1awake Mar 2014 #66

Odd. I don't remember being on the Supreme Court in 2000. merrily Mar 2014 #153

We're you in our equivalent if Maidan or Tahrir square? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #166

I don't think we have an equivalent of Tahrir Square. In fact, I don't merrily Mar 2014 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2014 #60

Not funny at all. He made a horrible faux pas, which I don't know if he madinmaryland Mar 2014 #78

It wasn't a "faux pas" ProSense Mar 2014 #88

Loaded with irony, at least, since Kerry is now the mouthpiece for foreign policy. Orsino Mar 2014 #143

Spare me the nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #144

Which part was the nonsense? n/t Orsino Mar 2014 #145

No, it would not mean that no American could speak against Bush. merrily Mar 2014 #157

Like I said in the other thread Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #156

Oh, come on, now. Posting it, even twice, does not make it so. merrily Mar 2014 #159

I've never said it was the "only or best possible thing" bullshit Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #162

Um, you said he had to say it or something a lot like it. merrily Mar 2014 #163

Fine...Go apply to be Kerry's new speechwriter, then Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #164

Are you aware that people Isoldeblue Mar 2014 #58

And he has stated he regrets his vote. I know, God forbid people change their JaneyVee Mar 2014 #63

God forbid Will Pitt discuss this, given the evidence he published at the time Hissyspit Mar 2014 #126

paternalistic crap bobduca Mar 2014 #64

Exactly. ProSense Mar 2014 #65

No, it's not. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #125

You know, ProSense Mar 2014 #134

awesome bobduca Mar 2014 #148

I mean he should have done thar already AT THE TIME of the vote. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #180

I'm not going to jump on Kerry for his past votes here ibegurpard Mar 2014 #72

Funny, how ProSense Mar 2014 #81

Thanks, Will. It is interesting to watch heads exploding on both sides of the aisle. madinmaryland Mar 2014 #74

not backing away. clarifying for the dunderheads who didn't listen closely the first time. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #95

In politics, a 'dunderhead' is anyone who thinks folks listen closely and because of that Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #146

Will points out an obvious line of hypocrisy and the usual suspects Rex Mar 2014 #189

You are right. If we cannot call out the hypocrisy of our party members, then we madinmaryland Mar 2014 #194

War of the week. N Korea, Iran, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq..... grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #94

The good thing is that ProSense Mar 2014 #101

No he is not... actually.. he seems a bit jittery, 1awake Mar 2014 #117

i think Will Pitt is building his "DU Cred" with these type of threads JI7 Mar 2014 #108

Thanks for kicking my thread. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #110

Um, he doesn't need to build cred. Hissyspit Mar 2014 #124

I think he's speaking his mind as evolves as a Human Being..with backlook KoKo Mar 2014 #187

sure grasswire Mar 2014 #203

This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #113

Breitbart was good at that too. I mean ProSense Mar 2014 #118

I know, I debated not posting it PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #120

the things one *learns* on DU grasswire Mar 2014 #121

Our supposed "moral high ground" was drowned in the Gulf of Tonkin. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #127

thank me for kicking your thread! >_< NuttyFluffers Mar 2014 #133

That was a big Duh. Maybe it's time for Kerry and a lot of other politicians Autumn Mar 2014 #136

Hillary needs to "retire" and not run in 2016. Kerry has no plans to run for elected office. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #140

Here you go. Autumn Mar 2014 #141

+100 MBS Mar 2014 #182

SOS Kerry is no longer involved in politics. wisteria Mar 2014 #184

Yeah cause SOS is not a senior political appointment and has nothing Autumn Mar 2014 #200

By sayin " retired from politics" the poster meant mylye2222 Mar 2014 #201

He is no longer an elected official, and he represents the President and the US wisteria Mar 2014 #205

No shit?? Autumn Mar 2014 #209

And it is my opinion that your are uninformed, wisteria Mar 2014 #212

Aww...you made some people get a real sadz! Rex Mar 2014 #138

IKR? I literally LOLed when he said that n/t librechik Mar 2014 #139

Hey, he said "you," not "we." malthaussen Mar 2014 #151

I don't get what's with his bellicose language since becoming KoKo Mar 2014 #155

"You don't invade a country on completely trumped up pre-text" ProSense Mar 2014 #161

Maybe he's building his street creds as a general jsr Mar 2014 #175

What do you think he has been doing? wisteria Mar 2014 #185

Why didn't he say 'anymore' at the end of that? nt duhneece Mar 2014 #170

Where are ProSense Mar 2014 #171

direct plug-back to Cindy Sheehan times on DU. n/t BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #181

I begin to be REALLY SICK AND TIRED ABOUT KERRY BASHING. mylye2222 Mar 2014 #186

So how does that address the double standard quote in the OP? Rex Mar 2014 #190

No one can force me to NOT participate and read and comment GD either mylye2222 Mar 2014 #191

Yeah I read your OP, can you actually point out any of these people Rex Mar 2014 #192

...I lost to Bush. bigwillq Mar 2014 #188

... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #196

Kerry's statement was a disgrace. delrem Mar 2014 #193

"You don't invade a country on completely trumped up pre-text" ProSense Mar 2014 #195

Reading the replies in this thread...you would think it was Kerry who invaded Iraq and not Bush Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #197

It was the US that invaded Iraq, not "Bush". delrem Mar 2014 #204

That comment no sense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #206

+100! wisteria Mar 2014 #208

yes they are ridiculus. I just opened a protest tread. About those often personal critics mylye2222 Mar 2014 #198

You aren't capable of understanding the disgrace of that level of hypocrisy. delrem Mar 2014 #202

No, it's incoherent because it's nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #207

and then Whisp Mar 2014 #211